Category: CEO

  • ‘Nigeria still attractive to investors’

    ‘Nigeria still attractive to investors’

    Phillips Morris Limited Nigeria Managing Director Mr Coskun Dicle, in this interview with TOBA AGBOOLA, says despite Nigeria’s challenges, it is still attractive to foreign investors. He also speaks on why the economy remains attractive to global brands and how his company intends to compete here.

    With the state of the economy, why  do you think any global brand will  come to Nigeria and why did you venture into the market at the time you did?

    Africa is at the forefront of investment focus for many international companies across a wide range of industries. Within Africa, Nigeria’s human and natural resources, combined with the fact that there has been political stability and democratic governance since 1999, make it an attractive investment destination. From our industry perspective, despite our global market leadership position as Philip Morris International (PMI), we were not present in Nigeria and one of our global competitors was enjoying what we can call a monopoly situation in Nigeria. We began business in Nigeria in 2015, after obtaining all necessary statutory and regulatory approvals. Our objective has always been to provide our international brands of the highest quality, as alternative choices to the legally-aged smokers who have made the choice to continue to smoke. Beyond Nigeria’s position as Africa’s largest economy, Nigeria is also home to a consumer population that is  sophisticated and discerning. Nigerians recognise and appreciate quality while placing significant importance on the value-for-money proposition. This type of environment is one where Philip Morris Limited and its products can add value and thrive.  In fact, we estimate that our employment footprint will reach approximately 2,000 Nigerian talents, through direct and indirect employment.

    Furthermore, through our global efforts on tobacco harm reduction and reduced risk product development, which we hope to make available in all of the markets where we operate, we are committed to meeting the market’s demands for the best quality, innovative products, now and for many years to come.

    Why did the your firm start local manufacturing in Nigeria at this time?

    Since our entry into the market, we have been very clear about our commitment to Nigeria and about the contributions we can make to its economy.  It has always been our strategy to manufacture our brands locally. Having found the right partner in International Tobacco Company Limited (ITC), we are proud that this is happening in less than two years of our presence in Nigeria; this will no doubt contribute to the local economy and establish a long lasting presence for our company. There is also the advantage of significant job creation, which PMI globally is passionate about as attested to by the many top employer awards received across the countries and regions where we operate. We are already providing direct and indirect employment to thousands of Nigerians, through our distributors, agencies and the support we are giving to the trade.

    Currently, one of the major attractions of the Nigerian economy to global investors, to my mind, is the stability that has been bestowed on it by the sustenance of democratic governance. International businesses and investors want to flow with stable policies. For a country that endured long spell of military intervention in governance from independence in 1960 with civil rule lasting barely six years from that date to find herself under unbroken civil leadership since 1999 is remarkable. Civil rule promises stability and so long as that is guaranteed, global investors would be attracted. And so long as leading investors from across the world are attracted to any economy, it will continue to witness growth.

    For us this time is the best time for any investor to invest in Nigeria economy. I believe that Nigeria economy is growing. It will not grow over night but gradually. Despite all the concerns about the state of our economy, I would say that our country offers tremendous opportunities for investors. We have the largest population in the African continent (estimated 170 million). We have the largest black population in the world; ours is the second largest economy in Africa (with a GDP of over $300 billion). We have one of the highest growth rates in the world currently (6.7 per cent). We account for over 50 per cent of the GDP of the West African sub region. We account for over 50 per cent of the population of the west sub region, we are blessed with abundant natural resources (minerals and arable land) and our democratic structures are becoming firmly .entrenched.

    What is missing is the capacity to harness these opportunities for our common good. I am confident that this will happen before long.

    How do you hope to compete, being new in Nigeria?

    By providing better products at better value than those available to consumers. This consumer quality-and-value proposition, along with our commitment to maintaining the industry’s highest standards, is in our DNA and is what has helped PMI to become the world’s largest international tobacco company. These are values on which we never compromise and which will allow us not only to compete in this market, but to thrive in it.

    Additionally, with our global efforts on tobacco harm reduction, including the development and commercialisation of products with the potential to reduce individual risk and population harm in comparison to smoking cigarettes, and which we hope to make available in all of the markets we operate, we believe we can change the face of the industry.

    What has been your experience since you started operation here?

    It has definitely been worthwhile. Looking back to the time I started as managing director in Nigeria, precisely in February 2016, I can say we have had a fast learning curve discovering the uniqueness of doing business here. Our experience shows that doing business in Nigeria at this time might not be as difficult as it is being portrayed outside the country, particularly in the media, which has created an erroneous perception of the Nigerian business terrain as a difficult operating environment. With the government’s intervention in addressing the power supply challenges, infrastructure deficiency as well as the recent economic reforms focused on the ease of doing business in Nigeria, the business environment can only get better. From PM’s perspective, the operational and economic outlook is extremely positive and we are here to stay. We recognise that both the opportunities and challenges in Nigeria are great, not least of all the highly competitive nature of our industry. However, we have invested considerable time and resources to better understand the market and how to work in it. As a result, we are confident that with fair competition and a level playing field, we will be able to operate with integrity in Nigeria and provide meaningful contribution to the community while delivering long-term sustainable growth.

    The cost of doing business in Nigeria is said to be higher than that of most countries; how has it affected your cost and pricing template?

    It is costly doing business in Nigeria, and this was discussed at various meetings. There are two big things, energy and the logistics needed to support moving goods across the country and different markets. Being an export organisation, we have to compete against other factories in these markets that do not have the same challenges. However, to manage our costs, we localise a lot of our operations, growing, packaging, manufacturing, among others. A number of our competitors who are transactional have challenges with the inflation and foreign exchange pressure. But due to our deep roots, we only see these challenges as opportunities.

    What is your position on Nigeria’s Tobacco Control Bill?

    We were fully aware that the National Control Bill was being discussed at the National Assembly as we sought our registration. We strongly believe that proper regulation of tobacco products is essential to ensure that adult smokers are aware of the harmful effects of smoking, that tobacco products are not made available to minors, and that legitimate companies can compete on a level-playing field with clear rules.

    How do you handle the issue of illicit tobacco trade?

    Available statistics from different sources estimate the size of the illicit tobacco trade to be between 10 and 12 per cent of the global cigarette market. This is alarming not just because of the income it denies various governments and the world economy but growing concerns that such income is further employed to support other illegalities.

    Contraband cigarettes deprive governments of billions in tax revenue yearly, while consumers lose because they often end up buying fake products of poor quality that are not subject to any regulatory scrutiny or quality control procedures by manufacturers.

    Around the world, PMI undertakes a broad series of measures to fight illegal cigarettes to ensure that our brands are protected and consumers get the genuine product they expect. We support strict regulations and enforcement measures to prevent all forms of illicit trade in tobacco products, including tracking, tracing, labeling, record-keeping requirements, and where appropriate, implementation of strict licensing systems. We are also working with a number of governments around the world on specific agreements and memoranda of understanding to address the illegal trade in cigarettes.

    We are planning to meet with all relevant authorities in Nigeria, in particular with Nigeria Customs Service, to present our tools and know-how to foster cooperation in addressing illicit trade together.

    Can you shed light on your investment plan for Nigeria and how have you affected the economy positively?

    The plan is to steadily grow our investment in Nigeria. Since 2015, when we started our operations by taking advantage of the ECOWAS Trade Liberalisation Scheme (ETLS), which enables free movement of goods within West Africa, we have gone from 100 per cent importation of brands from our manufacturing plant in Senegal, to taking the bold step of starting to locally manufacture our brands in Nigeria with our strategic partner, International Tobacco Company Limited (ITC). This goes to show the confidence we have in the Nigerian market and our focus on local manufacturing and other investments will certainly continue. PMINTL Nigeria intends to have significant positive, long-term impact on the Nigerian market.

    First, we expect that the work that we are doing in tobacco harm reduction will transform the tobacco industry.

    Next, we have already created approximately 500 direct and indirect employment opportunities in the country and are still creating new ones with the hope to grow our footprint by as much as four times in the near future. To aid in this, and in pursuit of our long term investment plans in Nigeria, full-scale local manufacturing of our brands will begin before the end of the year through strategic partnerships.

    Additionally, we have started exploring the possibility to produce in Nigeria, with key partners and local farmers, tobacco and/or other agricultural crops for the local and international markets.  We would work with local business partners to share our know-how and help to ensure good agricultural practices to obtain good quality crops, high yields and good income for farmers, while minimising environmental impact and fostering sustaina-bility. PMINTL Nigeria, through our investment plans and commitment to Nigeria, will be a significant tax payer – contributing to the government revenue, providing foreign direct investment into Nigeria, creating sizeable direct and indirect employment opportunities to Nigerian talents with ongoing focus on education and development. Overall, we are committed to contributing to the local communities, while operating with integrity, and look forward to becoming a major player in the Nigerian economy to establish a long-lasting presence.

    Comparing Nigeria with other markets where you operate, how is it like?

    Every market has its peculiarities. For PMI, countries that have signed up to and are  guided by the WHO Framework Convention on Tobacco Control (WHO FCTC) resolutions have some unanimity in the treatment of the tobacco industry and this helps to maintain a unified approach in addressing the challenges facing the tobacco industry, such as illicit trade, youth smoking, etc.

    Since the enactment of  the National Tobacco Control Act, 2015, which has led to the setting up of the National Tobacco Control Committee with a view to ensuring compliance with the law by all stakeholders, there have been a lot of activities within the industry and all players are aware that it is no longer business as usual. We welcome these developments in the hope that they will help the tobacco industry operate within the provisions of the law to the benefit of all stakeholders.

    How does the firm impact its operating environment?

    Our industry is highly regulated. Philip Morris Limited (PML) maintains a global policy of compliance with rules in each market where it operates. So, our best way of impacting our environment is through quality processes and ensuring full compliance to all laws and regulations. For instance, we are very much interested in partnering with different Government Agencies on jointly fighting illicit trade of cigarettes, to ensure that every pack sold in Nigeria contributes to the tax revenues of the Federal Government.

    In what areas would you want to see changes?

    Regarding the operating environment, it will be nice to see more of an improvement in power supply and quality of infrastructure. On industry specific changes, I would like to see more efforts towards the fight on illicit trade and counterfeit products as this will invariably increase revenue generation for the Government. I am also keenly looking forward to the continued implementation of the Act and other subsidiary legislations with a view to ensuring compliance by all stakeholders.

    Can you shed more light on PMI’s operations and how they started?

    We are the world’s leading international tobacco company, with six of the world’s top 15 international brands and products sold in more than 180 markets. In addition to the manufacture and sale of cigarettes and other tobacco products, we are engaged in the development and commercialisation of reduced-risk products (“RRPs”).

    Initially, the company is incorporated as PMINTL Nigeria Limited. In December 2014, we applied for and received all regulatory approvals required to commence business in 2015 and started by importing some of our brands into Nigeria under the ECOWAS Trade Liberalisation Scheme (ETLS) from its factory in Senegal. As PML Nigeria, we are already providing direct and indirect employment to thousands of Nigerians, through our distributors and agencies. Through our investment plans and commitment to Nigeria, the company is a significant tax payer, contributing to the government tax revenue, providing foreign direct investment into Nigeria, creating sizeable direct and indirect employment opportunities to Nigerian talents with ongoing focus on education and development, while upholding the highest standards as a socially responsible company. We look forward to continued contributions to the Nigerian economy and establishing a long lasting presence.

    PML and ITC are partnering local manufacturing. Can you shed light on this?

    To start with, Philip Morris Limited (PML) is the national affiliate of Philip Morris International (PMI) in Nigeria. Recently, we entered into a strategic partnership with International Tobacco Company Limited (ITC) to manufacture one of PMI’s leading brands in Nigeria.

    Under this agreement, PML will be investing in technology and capacity building at ITC’s factory, creating additional employment opportunities and contributing to the local as well as national economy of Nigeria.

    We strongly believe that investing in local manufacturing is the right thing for the future as it contributes to the Nigerian government’s efforts to strengthen the economy and reduce the dependency on oil. It will also benefit all parties. Our consumers will have their preferred brand readily available at the highest quality standards, our partners will enjoy improved capacity utilisation of their facilities, and the local community will benefit from the micro-economy boost and new employment opportunities. We are here to provide a choice to those consumers, who choose to continue to smoke, and we are here to make a positive contribution to the Nigerian economy for the long term.  The giant stride that PML has made in less than two years of operations in Nigeria is attributable to PMI’s global strategy to deliver long-term sustainable growth and the passion of local employees.

    The start of local manufacturing is just the beginning of various planned investments in the Nigerian economy by PML. PML and ITC are eager to become integral part of Nigeria’s drive to strengthen the economy through creation of jobs, more foreign direct investment, and tax payments, while upholding the highest standards as socially responsible companies.

    What is the future of Philip Morris in Nigeria

    We are optimistic about the prospect of our business in Nigeria and against this background, we are currently focused on building our business organisation, hiring local talents and strengthening our infrastructure and ties with our counterparts in the tobacco value chain. But I can assure you we are here to invest and we are here to stay.

    We have planned to invest heavily into Nigeria economy, which I know would provide a lot of job opportunities for the youths of the country. The Nigerian youths deserved the best, and that is why we are in Nigeria. When you look at the economy, there are a lot of challenges but we not looking those challenges at moment now, we are looking at the future. The future is bright for any investor like us in Nigeria.

    What is your experience in Nigeria?

    I absolutely love Nigeria and Nigerians, the passion and energy is unmatched and contagious. I have enjoyed every bit of my time here and made many good friends because everybody is so warm and welcoming. I have also developed new taste buds and I relish all the local dishes, especially pepper soup and suya.

  • ‘Technology can boost tax collection’

    ‘Technology can boost tax collection’

    The hardest civic responsibility for most citizens is tax payment, and it is one that many have cunningly evaded. Fortunately, the Nigeria government has clamped down on its campaign for tax payments, especially following the fall in oil prices, which has affected its revenue. This however begs the question: how can government collect tax with ease? Managing Director, Bidemi Daniel, in this interview with COLLINS NWEZE, proves that the simple answer is: technology.

     

    Everyone is talking about taxation. At the state and federal level – even right up to the World Bank – government agencies are emphasising the need for Nigeria to consider its tax system. What do you think is driving this new invigorated tax campaign?

    First, let us put it in proper perspective. The necessity of a strong, consistent and efficient tax system has always been there. Society consists of people who must have responsibilities towards it. Just as in a home of parents and children where everyone has a role and responsibility, so also is the larger society. Every taxable person must contribute to the common-wealth. The common-wealth is so called because it is from it that our common needs are to be met.

    For instance, every individual cannot begin to fix only the portion of the road that he or she plies. Roads are a shared resource that should be funded with the common-wealth. The same applies to healthcare. We cannot continue to have citizens constantly flying out of the country to receive good healthcare. It is a common need that a good government should provide. In summary, the government needs the revenue from taxation to settle costs of at least, our basic common needs.

    Unfortunately, the revenues our government currently derive from taxation is insufficient to meet our needs. I don’t think it is because our people are not sufficiently productive, as to have the means to pay their taxes; but rather, that government found a cheaper form of funding our societies developmental needs and abandoned developing a relatively fool-proof tax system. Government had chosen to partake in the crude oil business. Even the taxation of the crude oil business in time past, was far from optimal.

    Our approach to the oil sector brought us more curses than blessings, with the most glaring consequence being that we had money but were not developed as the people were not empowered to create wealth and contribute taxes.

    The conversation about tax is, therefore, timely, and the message is simply that there is much more to be done. Interestingly, we are not the only ones having this conversation. Even the more advanced countries of the world feature taxation in their daily conversations because there is no over-emphasizing its role in the development of any society. Society is an aggregation of people, so if you want to see a developed society, develop the people and let them fulfill their fiscal responsibilities.

    Do you think the conversation was triggered by the drop in oil prices?

    Yes, you are correct to say that. However, like I said, this is a conversation that should awaken us to our responsibility, whether we have a profitable crude oil business or not. In my view, taxation is a more sustainable means to building the common-wealth. The wealth from natural resources should be transformed into more sustainable means to generate wealth. For example, (although not the best example, as I will route for human capital development above all else) Dubai funded its rapid and impressive development using its crude oil to create a tourist haven; mega cities that people are trooping into today. While our older generation have made their mistakes, our generation should not fall into same trap. We need to tame ourselves from voraciously consuming our natural resources and rather transform them into more sustainable sources of wealth creation. We must leave something greater for future generations.

     

    There is the belief that the government is not doing its own part regarding taxation. People don’t trust the government to properly utilise paid taxes. What do you think is creating this fear?

    I think it is the absence of effective communication. Not that there is no communication, but there is need for much more. We need to spread the message with more than newspaper adverts and radio jingles. Taxation is in some respects, cultural; a creation of habit. Government should not expect that a society that has been marginally fiscally responsible will suddenly wake-up and become responsible. A process of socialization and acculturalization is needed. I think, starting from the nursery schools, primary, secondary to tertiary levels, a process of education on civics and fiscal responsibility must be inculcated in the educational curriculums. Some basic knowledge of how the tax system works is absolutely necessary. Considering the tax revolution we need, there cannot be a case of over-communication.

    I think a well-thought process of ICT development should also be a major part of the communication process.

    I also think, the dynamics of our level of infrastructure development has not helped government. Of course, we hear sentiments such as: what has paying tax ever done for me when we still have bad roads, no power, and practically zero basic amenities; why then should l pay tax?” But then, come to think of it, I live in a part of Lagos, that has recently seen the Jubilee Bridge, Ajah; built over a period of about 20months. That should inspire me to pay more tax, right. Sure it should. But then, how many more of such life-enriching projects would you see if, with the way our governments’ budgets are structured, more monies are voted to the payment of salaries and maintaining its workforce than on capital projects. Ultimately, there are things government does that we cannot see. It is, therefore up to government to balance its politics and financing in other to incentivize (used loosely) voluntary tax compliance.

    How is technology driving taxation?

    Pretty well. Taxtech, a subsidiary of Taxaide, is Nigeria’s foremost tech-based company that deploys technology for effective and efficient management and administration of taxes.  Several tech companies provide some solutions around taxation, but then, Taxtech is solely focused on providing tax technologies. The company is on a mission to provide technology solutions around the following process issues in tax management and administration: registrations, computations, remittances, returns, receipting, auditing and accounting.

    Is the technology you spoke about foreign or locally developed?

    Absolutely, locally developed. It is amazing the talents readily available in this country. My background is in Law, but in the three years that I have delved deeply into running a tax management business, I have worked with young, indigenous developers, and I’ve been amazed at what can be done, the wealth of intelligence readily available, and the progressive technology and innovations they are conversant with.

    However, we live in a globalised world where we do not have to physically move outside our locations to be privy to current happenings; with ICT, I can see it. With the right organisation, we can harness our capabilities to create products and services our people are comfortable with and can compete on a global stage. We also ensure we conduct our own integrity test using global benchmarks, and all the reports we have received have been absolutely positive. So, while we may have designed it locally, it is globally acceptable, relevant and competitive. 

    During the last World Bank Spring Meetings, the Finance Minister talked about taxation. Of the 13 million companies in the country, only 500,000 pay tax from the statistics she gave us. How can that be? Does it mean that companies are not paying their taxes?

    I would be hard-pressed to speak directly to this as I am not aware of how or when these statistics were measured. However, we cannot ignore that there are more people who are not willing to pay tax, than people like me who are.  What we need to do is introduce mechanisms to properly capture all eligible tax payers, and then measure from there. That is where technology comes in.  We need technology to harness that data in order to obtain relevant and useful information.

    I believe this challenge is easily surmountable, once the relevant mandates are given. Through technology and public-private partnerships, government can easily have the useful information it needs to for effective tax administration.

    What is your view on government’s plan to name and shame tax defaulters?

    I think the possibility will be great. The legal infrastructure is there in terms of the laws required, although with manageable challenges. It may however involve significantly stretching the infrastructure, for example, having the needed experts to successfully prosecute the cases. While the government can single out a few people and parade them as examples, it can and should spend more time erecting structures that will promote compliance, and easily identify defaulters. With that, prosecution can be pursued with sufficient, direct – not circumstantial – evidence.

    In other words, we need infrastructure that can provide all the information we need and I think technology plays a fantastic role in fulfilling that need. What we are doing is looking at the same elephant, but from different parts. So, we say why don’t we have an aerial view of this problem and capture it appropriately?  Thus, ICT is the anecdote to the challenges that the current situation poses. We can enforce tax compliance using technology.

    Talking about the challenges, what is the biggest challenge you are facing in this tax business?

    The major challenge would be in establishing a strong relationship between government and tax management firms. There is a world of difference between tax management firms and tax consultants. While tax consultant provide tax advisory services to tax payers, a tax management firm actually implements or manages the day to day compliance process.

    It is interesting to note that, at least to the best of my knowledge, Taxaide is the first indigenous company that brands itself as a tax management firm in Nigeria. We are not a firm of accountants or auditors or lawyers, simply tax managers. To paint a clearer picture, we are a private tax office. So, the quality of service that a typical high net worth tax payer may not ordinarily be able to achieve at typical government office, he or she is able to achieve it with us, of course at a premium.

    It, therefore, goes back to ‘Private-Public Partnership.’  If the government can license firms to manage individuals’ pension and call them pension managers, the same can easily apply to tax managers who will be responsible to a regulator within the government. No payment is required from the government, individuals have the right to make a choice for efficient services for a premium. If we can properly structure our society accordingly, a company like Taxaide will be empowered to achieve so much more. As it stands, Taxaide can testify to the bounty of responsible, patriotic Nigerians ready to pay their taxes at the right time if the right infrastructure is available. That is the gap that Taxaide is bridge.

    Many lawyers are into taxation. What is driving this trend?

    Taxation is essentially statutory. Without the law, there can be no taxation. Taxation is taking away from the private wealth of the citizens and putting it compulsorily in the common wealth. For government (the executives) to exercise such power, government (legislature) must have expressly stated it. Government (the judiciary) must also be there to that the laws are properly interpreted in the event of disputes.

    What is your take on the increment of Value Added Tax (VAT) from five per cent to 10 per cent?

    Luckily, this is a subject where the outcome can easily be measured. If the ‘math’ works out, then so be it.  I currently do not have access to government information, but I believe that until we optimise our tax system and ensure that we capture the sufficient number of taxable persons, the decision to increase VAT may have no statistical basis. Is it that the rate is too low or that government has been unable to bring the sufficient number of tax payers in the tax net? Where we have captured the sufficient number of taxable persons and the revenue from VAT does not meet our collective financial objective, then we have to increase the rate.

    Are you saying increase in VAT is not justifiable?

    I am saying that increasing the VAT has to be a product of the efficiency with which government has administered the prevailing VAT rate. There is no basis for an increment of the VAT rate if all government has to do, to meet its financial objective, is to increase the number of tax payers – the tax base.

    What is your message to Nigerians?

    We all must recognise that paying taxes is a civic duty we must fulfill. We cannot have a functional society if people don’t pay their taxes. We should consider it as a fundamental human obligation to be part of the tax system, which is for the benefit of everyone, and not the exclusive preserve of government. Government simply acts as the managers of wealth, while we contribute to it.

    We must, therefore, engage more with the system to discover what the issues are, and make concerted efforts to fix them. Without a doubt, the lifeblood of any country/society should be its tax system. Allow me to reiterate: crude oil will never be a sustainable source of revenue, the sooner we build a balanced and efficient tax system, the sooner we do not only survive as an inclusive society, but thrive very well in the process.

     

  • ‘Nigeria’s future depends on today’s investments’

    ‘Nigeria’s future depends on today’s investments’

    As Registrar/Chief Executive of the Financial Institutions Training Centre (FITC), Dr. Oladimeji Alo stamped his authority on the operations of banks and insurance firms. Today, the scholar chairs Berger Paints Nigeria Plc board. In this interview, Alo, an advocate of corporate governance and professionalism, speaks on economic development and the operating business environment. Capital Market Editor Taofik Salako reports.

    Talking about corporate governance, some are demanding that regulators should not regulate the tenure of directors. Rather, companies and their board should decide how long the directors or any executive should stay contrary to what we have now in some of our codes?

    I think it is an ongoing debate and I believe that the regulatory authorities have every right to ensure that boards are effective and an aspect of the effectiveness is that those who are on the board have a sense that they have tenure. If you have a case where someone has passed a particular age, he may not be effective. Our rule states that once you are 70 you should declare it, it doesn’t mean that you are not going to be re-elected but every year you have to be re-elected and you have to keep declaring it. That is an issue. For the other sectors like banking and finance, they have ample reasons for suggesting that there is a maximum number of years you can spend and, for me, it has to do with the nature of the business. So, the debate is open but as long as the director is effective and as long as the regulation in force allows it, the director can function on the board.

    What are the policies working in favour of domestic manufacturers?

    Well, one policy that we are quite delighted about is the effort to push made-in-Nigeria goods by asking ministries and parastatals of government and functionaries to patronise made-in-Nigeria goods. For us, that is very good because we are an indigenous company. We are the first paint manufacturing company, established in Nigeria way back 1959 and we believe that such a policy will favour us. The other thing I am happy about as an individual is that for once, we are having some sense of transparency in governance and the emphasis on doing things right. We can’t get it all the time at once, we are making progress and I am delighted at the progress we are making. Today, everybody knows that a day of reckoning would come. You can do whatever you like to do but one day someone would call you to account. Unlike what you have in the immediate past where there was a season of impunity when people do the wrong things and nobody could challenge them. Now everybody is afraid, everybody is conscious that one day, somebody can ask you how you came about the money you are flaunting and how you used your position in office. So, for me, these are good signs. We hope we would make more progress in that direction.

    Looking at it from the other side, which policies are adversely affecting businesses?

    For me, I was not quite happy at least in 2016 with the foreign exchange policy of the government. A situation where we had several exchange rates and the attempt the government made to force the rates even worsened matters. But you can realise that since the beginning of this year, things had improved and the rate had improved. But a lot has to be done to let the rates close. Let us have a single exchange rate. You may have a second warrant which is just the parallel market rate, but you cannot function with four exchange rates in any country. We need to do more with respect to earning foreign exchange. Our dependence on oil has gone too far, we need to encourage the production of other things locally that we can export to earn foreign exchange. Also, we need to do more in encouraging industry. In this country, we actively discourage industries; we actively discourage manufacturing that is not good enough. We need to encourage industries by making sure that the policy we have favour them in terms of access to the forex market, in terms of regime of tax that we have, in terms of what I considered to be the mutual relationship between government agencies and manufacturing company. You know, many of the agencies of government see private entrepreneurs as if they are enemies, as if they are criminals. They proceed in dealing with them with the assumption that they are criminals. That is wrong, that will not get us anywhere. They must proceed with the assumption that these are partners in progress and they require the government’s support. A greater challenge we have in Nigeria is that those in government and those in government bureaucracy see themselves as policemen to catch the thieves and they see private entrepreneurs as people willing to beat the laws that is not going to work. In other climes, those in government, in bureaucracy of government see themselves as those who provide the enabling environment of business. I need to see that happen in Nigeria.

    If you are to advise the government on some quick wins, what would you say, especially of the top three things they should focus on, going forward now?

    Number one, for me, is that there is too much waste in Nigeria. Too much waste! We need to reduce the waste that we have and you know about it. If you ask me, we don’t need two houses of legislature, collapse them into one. If you ask me, we don’t need full time legislators, make them part-time legislators, if you ask me, all the trappings of wealth we display we do not have the resources to support them. A legislator is going for a meeting and he goes with four SUVs, you know that is waste! There is waste at every level. That is my point number one.

    Point number two is that we need to get serious about the future of the country. We are not investing enough in the future of the country. We seem to be consuming for today. You see how much we spend on recurrent expenditure, just paying salaries andwe don’t even have the money. We need to spend more on capital expenditure and prepare for the future of the country because the future of the country belongs to our children and in terms of population,  they have a larger population size in Nigeria. So, we should act today with the future in mind. We are not doing that now. Third point, we need to work towards political stability in the country, too many things heating up the polity. People are raising all manner of issues and generating crisis where it is not necessary and most of the people who are doing that are those people who benefited from the rot of the past and all they want is confusion so that nobody would ask them questions. We need to have stability. Certain questions should have been settled in Nigeria today. Those questions should be settled to enable us focus on our future as a country. If they do those three things, for me the sky will be our limit.

    What are those questions that should have been settled?

    For instance, federalism should have been settled. I don’t know where you can run a federal system as if you are running a unitary system that should have been settled. For instance, things like giving the state the freedom to operate and allow them to engage in healthy competition that should have been settled. This régime of going to Abuja to share money, regime of local government coming to office twice in a month and all they do is to share money, that has to stop. The regime you collect VAT and you collect about 65 per cent from Lagos State and Lagos gets about 15 per cent of what is collected has to stop. You need to encourage the state that generates this income to have greater share of it, so that other states will then be creative to look at what they can also do where they have competitive advantage. What we have today is a Godfather distribution sharing system. It will not work. What we need is a production system in which every constituent unit of the country believes that they have things to develop and that if they are developed, they will have larger shares of it. For instance, I support derivation principles, I support that those who produce oil should get far more than what they are getting now. And others should go and look for what they can produce. Together we shall all contribute to the net. For me, these are issues that can move this country forward, not what we are doing now.

    Let us come to the issue of investment environment. There are fewer Nigerians  investing in the capital market now and our savings ratio is one of the lowest in the world. So, what can we do to improve savings and investments?

    I think one thing is that you can only share what we have. The level of disposable income of Nigerians had gone down in the last two years on account of the recession and there is need to promote the culture of savings. People should save. Again, we need to do more in our capital market. There has been too much abuse in the capital market, too much inefficiency; there are so many unnecessary costs of doing business at that market which need to be looked into. Of course, they are trying as there has been lot of improvement, but they still need to do more. Now, when you do that, you are going to make it a viable mechanism for people to raise capital to do business. So, for me, these are the things we need to do.

    You talked about raising capital. Is Berger Paints considering coming to the market to raise capital?

    Not immediately. We raised capital in the market four years ago. Right now, we are not considering that, but probably when we finish our new plant and we are up and running, maybe the owners may consider that option.

    What are you doing in the area of backward integration?

    We are very committed to backward integration.This is because we believe that, that is the future for us. Unfortunately, we are in a sector where those things don’t even exist in Nigeria. Only few of our raw materials are even found in Nigeria.  Of course, it would even be cheaper for us if we are able to source our raw materials in Nigeria. And so, what we are doing is to invest in research and to see how many more things we can get locally. So we believe in backward integration and we are actually pursuing it effectively.

    What’s your view about the tax system?

    Well, honestly we have no problems with the current tax rates because it is okay. It is not too high but what I have problem with is the tax system in this country is the agencies that administer them. They have to be reformed. Their attitude to business should change and they need to be more efficient.  I have no problem with the tax system. Every country has its own regime and Nigeria tax regime is not bad at all. But how do we implement it? How do we operate it? That is the areas we need more focus.

    What is your company’s growth strategy for 2017?

    What we are trying to do is to expand our distribution channels. You will realise that last year, we started what is called the outsourced business partners. We discontinued with distributionship and open dealership and depot for ourselves. We appointed individuals who are business men and business women in their own right who own the depot, have their own staff and get general discount from us and they act like our channel of distribution. We have about 30 now, and we are still going to have more this year.  Also, we are going to spend more on branding our products, rebranding our products to be top of mind with respect to those who use our product. Again, we are going to be much more effective with our sales team. Gone are the days when a sales man can hide under the performance of another sales man. We have reformed that now. We are going to track the performance of our sales team even better and we believe that it will be better. Don’t forget that our new plant is one of our strategies for the coming year. We believe that once we are able to produce the product of the highest qualities that you can get anywhere in the world we would be ready to compete in the market.

    Your Annual General Meeting (AGM) was well organised. What is the secret?

    Well, I think the point is that we seek to follow strictly the rules and regulations of the authorities – Securities and Exchange Commission and Nigerian Stock Exchange and we do things to the letter that is why we are able to do such a very businesslike AGM.

    I am sure you are aware of the other side of shareholders’ activism and what we have been seeing at various AGMs. What would you advise the regulatory authorities and directors to do to curtail abuses and make the AGM achieve its purpose of interface between owners and managers of the business?

    Well, for me, as an individual, who is a student of corporate governance, I believe the AGM is a business meeting and shareholders has one major opportunity to confront their representatives on the board to ask questions and demand answers, ask for transparency, ask for accountability and that should be the focus of the AGM. We should not be distracted by gifts, by food, by snacks and all those things. Those things tend to distract people. A business meeting is a business meeting and must focus straight on business. You could notice that everybody who wanted to ask question was given ample opportunity to do so. I even asked that if there were additional questions that were the businesses of the AGM because not all of them have the opportunity to meet us daily, even though we have a website and things are published there. An AGM is a statutory meeting where they have unfettered liberty to ask questions and receive answers and, so, we should not allow anything to distract from the object of that meeting and that was exactly what we did.

     

  • ‘How Nigeria can fix power sector’

    ‘How Nigeria can fix power sector’

    How can Nigeria’s endemic power problem be resolved? By increased investment in renewable energy, gas pipelines, power plants and transmission network, among others, says Green Elec President Marcel Hochet, in this interview with AKINOLA AJIBADE. He also speaks on the plans by five states to build solar-powered mini-grids.

    How can Nigeria tackle the perennial problems of shortage of gas and poor power supply?

    To address the problems, stakeholders including the Federal Government must try and invest in key infrastructure such as gas pipelines, equipment used in the distribution, generation and transmission of electricity, and other facilities.

    Of note is the use of obsolete equipment such as transformers, feeders, sub-stations and others, that need to be replaced with new ones by power distribution companies (DisCos) to adequately supply power to the consumers. Since the operators are not having enough money to play around with, they need to bring in more investors into the industry to provide the fund needed to move the sector forward.

    By so doing, stakeholders are helping in accelerating the growth of the industry, and also by reducing problems such as pipeline vandalism, poor generation and supply of power, which have resulted in low activities in the sector. When this happens, gas producers and suppliers and the power generation companies (GenCos) would be able to increase their output.

    What is the problem facing the national grid?

    The national grid is old, a development, which has resulted in the incessant collapse of the grid and inability of some parts of the country to get light. Successive administrations have spent a lot of money on the sector. Former Presidents Olusegun Obasanjo, Umaru Musa Yar’Adua and Goodluck Jonathan have launched many projects in areas such as power generation, distribution and transmission. Many of the projects have not been completed due to funds and lack of coordination among the stakeholders.

    Where in particular do DisCos require investment?

    The energy distribution firms need to upgrade their facilities by acquiring the latest technology in order to encourage growth. The firms must phase out analog meters, and in turn, provide their customers with pre-paid meters and smart meters. By scaling up investment in the area of meters, the firms would increase their earnings while at the same time blocking loopholes that were brought about by lack of enough meters in the sector.

    The loopholes are evident in the use of pre-paid meters for criminal activities such as meter tampering and its subsequent manipulation of volume of energy consumed by customers. Smart meters would be of help in this regard. The reason is because with smart meters power firms would be able to monitor criminal activities on the meters and promptly block them.

    What should power firms do to overcome their huge debt burdens?

    The answer is simple. The power firms must meter their customers with a view to monitoring their consumption pattern and collecting bills. The problem in the sector is poor liquidity caused by inability of consumers to pay their bills. Once meters are issued to customers, they would pay their bills, and the revenues of the firms would increase as well.

    What is your assessment of privatisation of the power sector?

    The unbundling of the assets of the Power Holding Company of Nigeria (PHCN) and the subsequent sale of the assets to private investors in 2013 is a good achievement. However, the privatisation is yet to achieve the desired results as power situation gets worsened by the day. Virtually, the operators are not finding it easy. The DisCos are struggling to survive due to huge debts.

    But the Federal Government has given DisCos a N700 billion lifeline.

    Though the Federal Government has given the firms N700billion, mind you the money was not given to them free. The money was given to the firms in form of short-term loan to help them improve their activities.  Power distribution firms are in a terrible financial situation. The firms are unable to pay for electricity they collected from the Nigerian Bulk Electricity Trading (NBET). On the other hand, NBET is also unable to pay the power generation companies, which are also unable to pay for the gas they bought to generate power. The DisCos should leverage the widening metering gap in the industry to make money and further improve their operation instead of trying to survive on the back of the N700 billion loans offered by the government.

    What should be done to boost electricity supply in the country?

    The industry requires a combination of different sources of power to grow. It is not enough to rely solely on the traditional methods of generating power such as gas and hydro. Though they are veritable energy sources as seen in countries across the world that use them to provide power, the use of renewable energy sources such as solar, wind, biomass and coal, is also important. A combina-tion of off-grid and on-grid sources of generating power would help in improving power supply in Nigeria.

    How many megawatts (Mw) of electricity does Nigeria needs to achieve energy sufficiency?

    Nigeria requires 40,000 Mw of power to meet the energy needs of its over 170 million population. The country cannot achieve much with 20,000 Mw of electricity in view of its growing population. France and other developed economies are combining various energy sources together to improve generation. France generates over 500,000 megawatts (Mw) of electricity for its 60 million populations. Also, South Africa generates 40,000 (Mw) for its 48 million population people. The country should use varied sources of generating electricity. Nigeria should take a cue from France and South Africa by using different sources to generate power. For instance, solar would help in boosting power generation in Nigeria in view of the county being located in the tropical region where there is high intensity of the sun – a raw material needed to provide solar energy.

    How many megawatts of power have solar generated in Nigeria?

    The country has so far generated 50 Mw of power. In the next five years, the country would provide 500 Mw of power. The world is evolving and new technology is coming up to aid the production of electricity through solar means. Already, new investments in solar energy are coming up in the country. Many international companies are interested in investing in solar energy in Nigeria and beyond.

    Like I discussed with you, for the communities that have not gotten power, this is a tremendous change for them. This is not immediate, but a long-term, in the next 10 years or 20 years. It is possible to provide 500 or 1,000 Mw of solar power, once there is a right operating environment. We have other renewable energy sources in Nigeria, which can be used to generate power. Nigeria is blessed with natural and human resources. What remains is the ability to use those resources for the production of electricity.

    You are in the vanguard of advocating the use of solar energy in Nigeria. What is the level of involvement of states in the initiative?

    The response of the state governments to provide power with solar energy is impressive. Five state governments drawn from three of the six geo-political zones have indicated interest in building solar-powered mini-grids for their communities that are not connected to the national grid with a view to provide solar power for them. The states that have partnered with Green Elec for provision of solar powered mini-grids include Kaduna, Imo, Delta, Rivers and Ogun states.

    How many solar-powered mini-grids are needed in each of the communities?

    Provision of mini-grids depends on the available resources on ground. However, we are going to build two mini-grids for 1000 homes. In a community, we have 1,000 homes and when divided into two, we are going to have 500 homes. This implies that 500 homes will be using one mini-grid. A home boasts of five people and that gives us a total of 5,000 people, when multiplying 1000 homes by five people.

    Has your organisation carried out pilot studies in those states?

    We have carried out a pilot study for the provision of street light in Owerri, Imo State and Port Harcourt in Rivers State. A pilot study on street light has taken place in Delta state, while discussions are ongoing for pilot study on the use of mini-grids. In Ogun State, we are providing solar power stations for the use of medical centres that are located in six Local Government Areas (LGAs) in the state. That of Kaduna took place few weeks ago. It is almost a year that we have been holding discussions and negotiating for the building of mini-grids in the state.

    Why the take-off of the project in Kaduna State?

    The project is starting in Kaduna State for obvious reason.  Kaduna is one of the key states in the Northern part of Nigeria, which is in dire need of electricity. We are leveraging Kaduna in order to reach other states in the North that also need power for survival.  Findings have shown that Northern states are in need of electricity than the states in the South-South and South-West regions, and there is the need to make solar power available for them through the mini-grids.  Also, climate is another reason for commencing the project in Kaduna or better put, the North. The intensity of the sun in the Northern parts of the country is very high and that is what is needed to generate solar power.

    Is partnership evolving between your firm and Lagos State government soon?

    For now, there is no partnership between Lagos and Green Elec on the issue of providing solar power for the state, regarded as the commercial nerve centre of Nigeria.

    Why is it so?

    The state government is not convinced that solar energy is as effective as people are made to believe. Whenever you meet any of the officials of the government, and you are discussing the issue of using solar energy system, the first question they ask is: Does the solar power system you are bringing have a lasting value? They are asking this question because they have experimented solar power system in the past and they discovered that its batteries do not last. The batteries usually run down six months after installing them. It would take some time before the state government buys into the idea of using solar power fully.  However, we have made them to understand that the street lights that we provide do last 10 years.

    How are you leveraging Lagos for growth in future?

    We want to leverage the commercial prospects of Lagos for growth. We would like to provide solar power for banks, hospitals, schools, oil and gas facilities, factories, and other commercial entities.

    What led to the formation of Green Elec?

    The desire to explore opportunities in solar power, maximise its potential for the benefit of people who never believed that they can power their homes and offices with solar power and generate electricity for people living in urban and rural areas, especially those not connected to the national grid, informed my decision to set up a solar energy firm known as Green Elec.

    When did the firm start operation?

    The company was registered in Nigeria and France in July 2015. Prior to this period, I had worked with a French power company, Schneider Electric, for two decades. I came to Nigeria to set up a subsidiary of Schneider Electric in 2004 through which the firm was  able to work with the Federal Ministry of Power and other stakeholders. Altogether, I have spent 12 years in Nigeria, a development, which enables me to know the energy gap in the country and what can be done to bridge the gap.

    Who are your target consumers in Nigeria?

    Basically, we are targeting two markets in the country. The first is the rural market, through which we would provide solar powered mini-grids for communities that are not connected to the national grid. The second market is urban centres, where we would be providing solar energy for banks, hospitals, schools, factories, oil and gas facilities, and other commercially-driven institutions. There are bigger companies like Nestle Nigeria Plc, Nigerian Breweries and others that would need solar energy to power some of their operations. These companies are powered by generators due to irregular power supply in the country. This has eaten deep into their cost of operation and we want to help them reduce the cost of energy by advising them to use solar energy during daytime. When the sun declines, they switch to the national grid by using electricity that is provided by power firms. When there is power failure, they are expected to use generators as the last resort.

    Why did you set up the firm in Nigeria?

    Nigeria is one of the countries with serious energy needs. This is evident in the inability of larger percentage of the 170 million population to get regular power supply.

  • ‘How Nigeria can fix power sector’

    ‘How Nigeria can fix power sector’

    How can Nigeria’s endemic power problem be resolved? By increased investment in renewable energy, gas pipelines, power plants and transmission network, among others, says Green Elec President Marcel Hochet, in this interview with AKINOLA AJIBADE. He also speaks on the plans by five states to build solar-powered mini-grids.

    How can Nigeria tackle the perennial problems of shortage of gas and poor power supply?

    To address the problems, stakeholders including the Federal Government must try and invest in key infrastructure such as gas pipelines, equipment used in the distribution, generation and transmission of electricity, and other facilities.

    Of note is the use of obsolete equipment such as transformers, feeders, sub-stations and others, that need to be replaced with new ones by power distribution companies (DisCos) to adequately supply power to the consumers. Since the operators are not having enough money to play around with, they need to bring in more investors into the industry to provide the fund needed to move the sector forward.

    By so doing, stakeholders are helping in accelerating the growth of the industry, and also by reducing problems such as pipeline vandalism, poor generation and supply of power, which have resulted in low activities in the sector. When this happens, gas producers and suppliers and the power generation companies (GenCos) would be able to increase their output.

    What is the problem facing the national grid?

    The national grid is old, a development, which has resulted in the incessant collapse of the grid and inability of some parts of the country to get light. Successive administrations have spent a lot of money on the sector. Former Presidents Olusegun Obasanjo, Umaru Musa Yar’Adua and Goodluck Jonathan have launched many projects in areas such as power generation, distribution and transmission. Many of the projects have not been completed due to funds and lack of coordination among the stakeholders.

    Where in particular do DisCos require investment?

    The energy distribution firms need to upgrade their facilities by acquiring the latest technology in order to encourage growth. The firms must phase out analog meters, and in turn, provide their customers with pre-paid meters and smart meters. By scaling up investment in the area of meters, the firms would increase their earnings while at the same time blocking loopholes that were brought about by lack of enough meters in the sector.

    The loopholes are evident in the use of pre-paid meters for criminal activities such as meter tampering and its subsequent manipulation of volume of energy consumed by customers. Smart meters would be of help in this regard. The reason is because with smart meters power firms would be able to monitor criminal activities on the meters and promptly block them.

    What should power firms do to overcome their huge debt burdens?

    The answer is simple. The power firms must meter their customers with a view to monitoring their consumption pattern and collecting bills. The problem in the sector is poor liquidity caused by inability of consumers to pay their bills. Once meters are issued to customers, they would pay their bills, and the revenues of the firms would increase as well.

    What is your assessment of privatisation of the power sector?

    The unbundling of the assets of the Power Holding Company of Nigeria (PHCN) and the subsequent sale of the assets to private investors in 2013 is a good achievement. However, the privatisation is yet to achieve the desired results as power situation gets worsened by the day. Virtually, the operators are not finding it easy. The DisCos are struggling to survive due to huge debts.

    But the Federal Government has given DisCos a N700 billion lifeline.

    Though the Federal Government has given the firms N700billion, mind you the money was not given to them free. The money was given to the firms in form of short-term loan to help them improve their activities.  Power distribution firms are in a terrible financial situation. The firms are unable to pay for electricity they collected from the Nigerian Bulk Electricity Trading (NBET). On the other hand, NBET is also unable to pay the power generation companies, which are also unable to pay for the gas they bought to generate power. The DisCos should leverage the widening metering gap in the industry to make money and further improve their operation instead of trying to survive on the back of the N700 billion loans offered by the government.

    What should be done to boost electricity supply in the country?

    The industry requires a combination of different sources of power to grow. It is not enough to rely solely on the traditional methods of generating power such as gas and hydro. Though they are veritable energy sources as seen in countries across the world that use them to provide power, the use of renewable energy sources such as solar, wind, biomass and coal, is also important. A combination of off-grid and on-grid sources of generating power would help in improving power supply in Nigeria.

    How many megawatts (Mw) of electricity does Nigeria need to achieve energy sufficiency?

    Nigeria requires 40,000 Mw of power to meet the energy needs of its over 170 million population. The country cannot achieve much with 20,000 Mw of electricity in view of its growing population. France and other developed economies are combining various energy sources together to improve generation. France generates over 500,000 megawatts (Mw) of electricity for its 60 million populations. Also, South Africa generates 40,000 (Mw) for its 48 million population people. The country should use varied sources of generating electricity. Nigeria should take a cue from France and South Africa by using different sources to generate power. For instance, solar would help in boosting power generation in Nigeria in view of the county being located in the tropical region where there is high intensity of the sun – a raw material needed to provide solar energy.

    How many megawatts of power have solar generated in Nigeria?

    The country has so far generated 50 Mw of power. In the next five years, the country would provide 500 Mw of power. The world is evolving and new technology is coming up to aid the production of electricity through solar means. Already, new investments in solar energy are coming up in the country. Many international companies are interested in investing in solar energy in Nigeria and beyond.

    Like I discussed with you, for the communities that have not gotten power, this is a tremendous change for them. This is not immediate, but a long-term, in the next 10 years or 20 years. It is possible to provide 500 or 1,000 Mw of solar power, once there is a right operating environment. We have other renewable energy sources in Nigeria, which can be used to generate power. Nigeria is blessed with natural and human resources. What remains is the ability to use those resources for the production of electricity.

    You are at the vanguard of advocating use of solar energy in Nigeria. What is the level of involvement of states in the initiative?

    The response of the state governments to provide power with solar energy is impressive. Five state governments drawn from three of the six geo-political zones have indicated interest in building solar-powered mini-grids for their communities that are not connected to the national grid with a view to provide solar power for them. The states that have partnered with Green Elec for provision of solar powered mini-grids include Kaduna, Imo, Delta, Rivers and Ogun States.

    How many solar-powered mini-grids are needed in each of the communities?

    Provision of mini-grids depends on the available resources on ground. However, we are going to build two mini-grids for 1000 homes. In a community, we have 1,000 homes and when divided into two, we are going to have 500 homes. This implies that 500 homes will be using one mini-grid. A home boasts of five people and that gives us a total of 5,000 people, when multiplying 1000 homes by 5 people.

    Has your organisation carried out pilot studies in those states?

    We have carried out a pilot study for the provision of street light in Owerri, Imo State and Port Harcourt in Rivers State. A pilot study on street light has taken place in Delta state, while discussions are ongoing for pilot study on the use of mini-grids.  In Ogun State, we are providing solar power stations for the use of medical centres that are located in six Local Government Areas (LGAs) in the state. That of Kaduna took place few weeks ago. It is almost a year that we have been holding discussions and negotiating for the building of mini-grids in the state.

    What is the reason behind the take-off of the project in Kaduna State?

    The project is starting in Kaduna State for obvious reason.  Kaduna is one of the key states in the Northern part of Nigeria, which is in dire need of electricity. We are leveraging Kaduna in order to reach other states in the North that also need power for survival.  Findings have shown that Northern states are in need of electricity than the states in the South-South and South-West regions, and there is the need to make solar power available for them through the mini-grids.  Also, climate is another reason for commencing the project in Kaduna or better put, the North. The intensity of the sun in the Northern parts of the country is very high and that is what is needed to generate solar power.

    Is partnership evolving between your firm and Lagos State government soon?

    For now, there is no partnership between Lagos and Green Elec on the issue of providing solar power for the state, regarded as the commercial nerve centre of Nigeria.

    Why is it so?

    The state government is not convinced that solar energy is as effective as people are made to believe. Whenever you meet any of the officials of the government, and you are discussing the issue of using solar energy system, the first question they ask is: Does the solar power system you are bringing have a lasting value? They are asking this question because they have experimented solar power system in the past and they discovered that its batteries do not last. The batteries usually run down six months after installing them. It would take some time before the state government buys into the idea of using solar power fully.  However, we have made them to understand that the street lights that we provide do last 10 years.

    How are you leveraging Lagos for growth in future?

    We want to leverage the commercial prospects of Lagos for growth. We would like to provide solar power for banks, hospitals, schools, oil and gas facilities, factories, and other commercial entities.

    What led to the formation of Green Elec?

    The desire to explore opportunities in solar power, maximise its potential for the benefit of people who never believed that they can power their homes and offices with solar power and generate electricity for people living in urban and rural areas, especially those not connected to the national grid, informed my decision to set up a solar energy firm known as Green Elec.

    When did the firm start operation?

    The company was registered in Nigeria and France in July 2015. Prior to this period, I had worked with a French power company, Schneider Electric, for two decades. I came to Nigeria to set up a subsidiary of Schneider Electric in 2004 through which the firm was  able to work with the Federal Ministry of Power and other stakeholders. Altogether, I have spent 12 years in Nigeria, a development, which enables me to know the energy gap in the country and what can be done to bridge the gap.

    Who are your target consumers in Nigeria?

    Basically, we are targeting two markets in the country. The first is the rural market, through which we would provide solar powered mini-grids for communities that are not connected to the national grid. The second market is urban centres, where we would be providing solar energy for banks, hospitals, schools, factories, oil and gas facilities, and other commercially-driven institutions. There are bigger companies like Nestle Nigeria Plc, Nigerian Breweries and others that would need solar energy to power some of their operations. These companies are powered by generators due to irregular power supply in the country. This has eaten deep into their cost of operation and we want to help them reduce the cost of energy by advising them to use solar energy during daytime. When the sun declines, they switch to the national grid by using electricity that is provided by power firms. When there is power failure, they are expected to use generators as the last resort.

    Why did you set up the firm in Nigeria?

    Nigeria is one of the countries with serious energy needs. This is evident in the inability of larger percentage of the 170million population to get regular power supply.

  • ‘Declare economic emergency, make use of our best minds’

    ‘Declare economic emergency, make use of our best minds’

    That the economy is facing one of its hardest moments in 25 years is no longer news. The question is: How do we get it out of the woods? Critical stakeholders should focus on sustainable solutions, says the former Managing Director/CEO Asset Management Corporation of Nigeria (AMCON) Mustafa Chike-Obi, in this interview with Group Business Editor, Simeon Ebulu and Senior Finance Correspondent, Collins Nweze.
    He  also speaks on the exchange rate crisis, building of new refineries  and the need to promote growth and productivity, among others. 

    It will be good to know what you have been doing since you left AMCON. 

    Since I left AMCON, I have been working to build, what I will call one of the finest pan-African advisory investment funds, Alpha African Advisory Limited.

    We focus on three things: Fund- raising for worthwhile businesses in Nigeria, financial advisory services and something we call- gateway  services, which is primarily targeted at assisting foreign investors who are looking to come to invest in Nigeria.

    We try to fix some of the things that are not business related that frighten people from coming to Nigeria by collecting all the approvals necessary for foreigners to come to Nigeria. The willingness of foreigners to come to Nigeria has waned in the last two years and we hope that Nigeria puts its economic house in order, so that it will become attractive for foreigners once again.

    That dovetails into the government’s desire to encourage foreign investors into the country. Do you key into the government’s plans in this area? 

    The problem with the government is that they have good goals, but the willingness to put in the work to actualise it, is difficult. The government aspirations are nice – remove corruption, diversify the economy, attract foreign investors, but when you look at the actions, and what is required to effect these goals, you realise a succinct lack of willingness and required effort.

    I was watching CNN recently and the government of Indonesia was advertising Indonesia. The key part of that particular advert was how many countries could come to Indonesia without a visa and they listed about 20 countries. There is absolutely no reason an American businessman who wants to come to Nigeria should get a visa, especially because Nigeria’s visa process is rigorous. They don’t need us economically, we need them economically. We must be practical and that was what I advocated in the last government.

    If you are from a G20 country and you want to come to Nigeria, come. If you bring money to Nigeria and you want to take it out, you can take it out. Now, the rate is a business risk. This period whereby people who brought in money legitimately, but could not take it out easily, have done us more damage than you can imagine. It will take us years to bring back that confidence.

    Can we know some actions we can use to stabilise the nation’s desirability?

    Well, let’s take a case of Ivory Coast. They had a civil war. After the government change, the new government kept many of their best minds that were there. Now, out of civil war, Ivory Cost is growing at eight per cent and they are heading towards double Gross Domestic Product (GDP) growth.

    We must make use of our best minds. Not everybody in Jonathan’s administration was bad. We cannot be changing our best minds every four years. We need to recognise the good ones and keep them, for continuity matters. Anytime there is a change of government, everything changes. We must learn some continuity in government. What one person started should not be thrown away because of a new administration. The good things we should keep. If we are building a bridge under Obasanjo, it does not mean that under Yar’Adua, we should abandon the bridge and under Jonathan, we start a new bridge. What a new administration has put in place, the next administration must honour, so that we can have continuity.

    Is that why we have this high level of corruption in the country?

    Corruption is not our biggest problem, competence is. We must first of all make sure that the most competent people are in the correct positions. Now, it is also my theory that people who are competent, tend not to be corrupt. They think that when they leave a job, they will get another job, and so what is the essence of stealing. However, people who are unsecure about their competence, their wives will tell them to make sure they take care of themselves.

    I think we should just value simplicity and competence and corruption will die. We have a culture that does not value simplicity and when we cannot afford the lavish lifestyle, it leads us to finding extra ways to make the money to be able to afford it.  We will remain corrupt if we value display of wealth. Corruption is not just in the public sector. There is as much corruption in the private sector. And how are you going to stop that, you have to change your values.

    Let’s come back to the economy, especially the exchange rate policy of the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN). What is your view on the state of the naira, and the push by the World Bank for free floating of the naira?

    Those are two different questions. As to what is necessary for the economy, the answer remains productivity and growth. We must be able to be productive as a country. We must be able to make things as cheap as other countries. As long as we continue consuming things that other people are making, our currency will never be strong. Our currency has done N180 to the dollar for two years, then N150 for a number of years, then N200 and now this artificial N305. But five years from now, it cannot be at N305. Five years from now, it could be far more higher unless we become a productive nation.

    The question is: how do we turn to a productive nation with double digit GDP growth? That is the only thing that can save the economy, not crude oil proceeds. When crude oil prices were at $120, there was still poverty in the land.

    The poverty rate, which is the most important measure, did not drop. Now, we are at – 0.8 per cent GDP, and poverty rate will still grow at five per cent per annum. When poverty rate gets to 80 per cent, there will be revolution. When people have no hope, they will get up and revolt. So, we must address the issue of productivity and growth now.

    Which is preferred in managing the economy – a higher naira/dollar exchange regime, or lower interest rate?

    If growth is the objective, then, we need lower interest rate. I am aware that a low interest rate has a consequence on exchange rate and inflation. If we grow at 10 to 12 per cent, for the next five years, eventually, inflation will come down and the currency will strengthen. When we go through a period of difficulty, and that is what leadership is all about; if the leadership comes and tells us, this is what is going to happen, we are going to go for double growth, in that interim, we may have to deal with inflation, and weak currency, but in the first year, in the next five years, we will be exporting clothes and shoes to countries in ECOWAS.

    So, when someone has seen the steps and results, they will comply. But what we have here is a number of good things like stronger currency, but nobody can borrow money or run a business at 30 per cent interest rate.

    So, businesses are dying, people are laying off workers. The only businesses that are surviving are those with very short life cycle. So, you buy something, you sell it, and take your profits. But if you want to manufacture or produce with machinery, you cannot do it.

    If the foreign exchange is not helping us to achieve growth and productivity, then it is unnecessary. It will not solve our problems. It is not appropriate for us to have an exchange rate regime, independent of overall macroeconomic target of the country. So, if they tell you the exchange rate will be N300 to the dollar, the question is, what is the developmental objective of having it at that rate? They cannot answer you.

    It has been a wonder to many people that a government that wants to grow the economy is setting different exchange rates for different segments of the economy. The government has no business setting exchange rates. I am an astute believer in what we call government priorities. If you are a road builder and you are building a 90-kilometre road between Lagos and Ibadan, and we can verify that you built the road, and this is your cost, we can subsidise it with our dollars at N100 to one dollar.  If you build power transmission lines from Lagos to Ogbomosho, and it costs you $100 million, we will give it to you at N50 to one dollar.

    So, we know what our priorities are and we subsidise it. But this one we are doing, is subsidising business and personal travel allowances, medical tourism. It is a subsidy. Someone who is going on medical trip can get dollar at N305 instead of N370, it is a subsidy. And it is administered by the Central Bank. Is it in the public interest? I think we should have a market rate for things that are critical to the economy, we subsidise it after, not before.

    Many believe that our backwardness as a country is because we do not have credible data. What is your view on that?

    World Bank has massive data on Nigeria that you do not even know, they are there. I know data is our problem. I give you an example. Senior government officials, including ministers, have variously said in different fora  that we spend 30 per cent of our foreign exchange importing petroleum products.

    That statement is not true. It’s a false statement.  The reason it is false, is because it is double counting. You sell your crude oil, you get dollar. Let’s say you use 500 barrels of crude oil daily. You sell it, you get the dollar on the 500 barrels. You re-import it, and you say you spent the money re-importing it on petroleum products. But you have not, because if we have refineries in Nigeria, that 500 barrels that you sold, you will not get dollar for it. So, you have to remove the revenue from the oil you sold, to get the actual cost of the petroleum import and that number is about 10 per cent.

    They said that building refineries will save Nigeria 30 per cent foreign exchange. No. Let’s say Aliko Dangote finishes building his refineries in Lekki. Will you sell him the crude oil in dollar or naira? If you sell to him in dollars, he will refine it and also sell back to you in dollars. You get dollars from him, and he will get dollars back from you. The only difference will be the profits. So, you cannot double-count the crude sales. Every research tells you, that in petroleum products, the crude oil is 90 per cent of the cost.

    They will tell you that they spent $6 billion importing petroleum products in a year, but in that transaction, we received $5 billion selling the crude oil to the countries where they are refined. So, we are prioritising refineries, but we should care less about refineries because they are more capital intensive, they do not hire a lot of labour. It is better we take that money to build a six-lane super highway from Lagos to Kano, and you will see Nigerian GDP will grow by 10 per cent. That one act will increase our GDP by at least five per cent.

    Now, you can go to Abuja by road in three hours. And all your farming and tomatoes and agricultural products will be preserved. We should build infrastructure and agricultural processing as a priority over oil processing. Agricultural processing is more important to Nigeria over crude oil processing and they employ more people, it creates more productivity and it is something we can have forever. So, instead of building refineries, I will build food processing plants.

    What is your take on the nation’s loan profile, both foreign and local debts?

    Nigeria by all economic standards is under-borrowed. The problem is that the CBN has kept the Treasury bill rate at around 22 per cent. We should never borrow foreign money because we do not have foreign sources of income. The issue is not how much local debt we have, but whether we can service it. The thing is that in defending the naira, inflation is still at about 18 per, so the private sector cannot borrow.

    The issue is the loans over the years have not translated to much gain.

    I understand what you are saying, but we are saying two different things. The fact that the government in the past misused borrowed money does not reduce the gains of borrowing to build infrastructure. For instance, the Third Mainland Bridge and Falomo Bridge are responsible for the entire development in Victoria Island and Lekki. Without those two bridges, we cannot have Lekki. Now, Victoria Island is a commercial and residential hub. But without those two bridges, it will be impossible. Now, if you ask me, should we borrow money to build the fourth mainland bridge? Absolutely. Because it will open up Epe down to Ondo. I think we can borrow to fund specific projects. The fact that money has been wasted in the past should not stop us in saying this is the way forward. We need to just step back and say, this is the right thing to do, and we put the right people to do it and it will work.

    What do you say about Nigeria’s political configuration?

    Politics is a very complicated matter. Politics means allocating scarce resources to legitimate groups. The scarcer the resources, the more difficult the jobs are. The easiest way out of it is to grow the GDP and sharing will become easier. When the national cake is smaller, the issue then is how to grab the available resources.

    I have no tribal affiliation. I believe we should make the national cake bigger. I believe that the 36-state structure is not good for the economy. If you ask me, I will collapse all the states into six geopolitical zones and make the geopolitical zones the federating units. So, we will have six federating units. What we call a state, I will call a local government authority. We will have six governors, and 36 chairmen. From each of the local government areas, I will take three House of Reps people and one Senator. So, we will have 36 Senators and 108 House of Reps members. We will save a lot of money and have federating units that are viable. The 36 states’ structure is not viable.

    The government is talking about taxation, even when revenues from taxes are not well utilised. What is you take on that?

    Tax compliance is very low. Because tax compliance and tax rates are low, then Nigeria’s tax compliance to GDP is very low. So, when you say they haven’t done much with it, there’s not much that can be done with the amount collected as taxes. We must increase tax compliance and tax rate. I will not support increasing taxes because we are in a recession. When we start growing, we can then raise tax. The effective tax rate for a bank managing director in Nigeria is about 10 per cent and in America, such person will be paying about 40 per cent tax. I support a comprehensive look at our tax policy.

    I remember when AMCON was floated, which you headed as CEO. The idea was to take bad loans from banks and allow the banks to lend more and grow. But today, the level of bad loans in the industry is rising very fast. What is happening? 

    The problem with the AMCON Act was that when it was made, it was meant to take non-performing loans from the banks. Unfortunately, that’s not what our vision for AMCON was. If you take the bad loans at the correct price, which is about 30 kobo per naira, it creates a negative capital for the banks. The banks did not want to sell their loans at 30 kobo per naira, because that will make them not to have any cash at all.  So, the banks were hiding  the loans and playing games and all that.

    The first thing is to take the loans from them at the right price, and recapitalise them to zero,  you give them back the money as capital. And then, the banks have up to 10 years to pay back that loss. It was financial re-engineering to give the banks time to pay back the bad debts.

    So, whenever you talk about how the government has put money back to AMCON, it is not true. There is no government money in AMCON. The only government money in AMCON is the N10 billion initial capital. But from the N10 billion initial capital, AMCON prepaid CBN. The biggest beneficiary of AMCON are the depositors. They did not lose any money. AMCON was not just about bad loans, but providing the bridge for the banks to move from where they were until they were able to pay back.

    From where we are now, what should be the government’s  priority, focus?

    Growth. There are ways to do it. The government has to get to market guaranteed programme, and from there build infrastructure.

    How much success has Alpha African Advisory recorded with foreign investments in Nigeria?

    We are not trying very hard because we believe our investors should make money. We do not raise money unless we are sure it is a viable business. And with Nigeria’s  economic policy, I will not even accept anybody bringing money into Nigeria.

    We need to know where we are going, and we do not. I do not see any coherent economic policy.  We have seen the Economic Recovery and Growth Plan (ERGP), again nice, but let’s see the outcome. Every economic person will tell you diversify the economy. The growth rate is too small. Two per cent next year and seven per cent, by 2021.

    How do we revive the economy?

    Nigeria remains a country of great potential. Nigeria, however, is on a cliff edge economically. We have to realise that the economic situation is an emergency like the Boko Haran insurgency and has the potential of creating far more problems, hardships and deaths than the Boko Haram insurgency  can in 30 years. We must pursue the economic situation with the same energy we are giving corruption and terrorism and the economy will have more potential to transform. We must declare an economic emergency and put our best minds forward. The economy must become the number one priority of the government.

  • ‘Divestment  by oil majors has improved indigenous production’

    ‘Divestment by oil majors has improved indigenous production’

    The problems in the nation’s petroleum sector are many and require proactive measures from the government and other stakeholders to solve. The Chairman, Society of Petroleum Engineers (SPE-Nigeria), Dr Saka Matemilola, says operators should close ranks to address low local refining output, crude oil price, infrastructural decay, shortage of gas and paucity of funds. Matemilola, who is also the Chief Petroleum Engineer, First Exploration and Petroleum Development Company Limited, says diverstment by oil majors has spurred local production and building of technical capacity. AKINOLA AJIBADE met him.

    How would you assess the state of the oil industry in Nigeria?

    The industry is recovering from shocks caused by the meltdown in the global oil market. The sector is experiencing problems, such as low crude oil production, prices and inability of members of the Organisation of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) to meet up with their fiscal responsibilities. However, there have been signs of recovery in the global oil market in recent times. The price of Brent crude price is improving. Oil price, which went as low as $28 per barrel per day in 2015, has increased to $56 barrel per day in March this year. Besides, there is increase in activities in the oil sector, a development, which suggests that the industry is regaining its momentum. At the international level, oil drilling activities are increasing by the day. For me, the sector is coming back to life gradually, and I strongly believe that the sector, would in the future, deliver energy globally.

    Is there any likelihood that the price of crude would go up to between $120 and $130 per barrel  this year?

    Signs are there that the price of crude oil is appreciating.  It is not impossible to see the price of crude moving to $120 or more in the future, if necessary mechanisms needed to spur growth are put in place. The Organisation of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) has put in place measures, which are not limited to the growth in oil output of member countries, cutting supplies of crude, among others, that would help boost the price of oil. The efforts have paid off, as prices of crude oil are improving. The price of crude oil is determined by factors such as forces of demand and supply of the product, discovery of new oil and gas resources, international politics, among others. When the factors are favourable to the market, the price of crude oil moves up, while the oil producing countries are better for it. But if the factors are unfavourable to the market, the price of crude oil plummets, while oil producing countries groan. That is why the market has what it is described as ‘boom and burst cycle’.

    Menace, such as pipeline vandalism, crude oil theft and others, are affecting the industry. Are these problems not surmountable?

    Yes, they are. The industry will overcome its problems, whenever the stakeholders display political will and the courage to do the right thing. The stakeholders such as the Federal Government, the state governments, the International Oil Companies (IOCs) operating in the Niger Delta region, the indigenous oil firms, and the communities, where the firms are prospecting for oil, need to come together to solve the problem. They need to sit at the roundtable to sort out their differences and subsequently proffer solutions to them. They need to advocate and implement policies that would help in checking the malaise. When this happens, problems such as poor compensation, infrastructure, breaking of oil installations by militants, among others, which exist in Niger Delta region, would be solved. When factors that are fuelling crisis in the region are addressed, production and earnings accrued from the sale of crude oil would improve, and the government and the people enjoy it. As I said earlier,  political will and courage to do what is right among the stakeholders, is what is required to resolve crisis in the oil producing region of Niger Delta.

    How will the problems in the Niger Delta come to an end? Efforts made to resolve the problem appear not to be yeilding dividends.

    It is difficult to know when the festering issues bordering the region would cease. But once the political will and courage to do the right thing from the stakeholders are in place, the problems would end. The problem was caused years ago, a development, which suggests that the solution cannot be provided in a day. The problems are deeply rooted, and therefore, require political will and determination of the parties concerned to deal with.

    The Vice President, Prof Yemi Osinbajo and his team, seem to be securing peace in the region. Do you share this view?

     It is true that the visit to the Niger Delta by the Vice President,  Osinbajo, has produced some results. Through the visit, the VP discussed the need to live and work in peaceful atmosphere with the residents of the region, he emphasised the need for the youth to  stop breaking pipeline and other national assets. During the visit, Osinbajo met the elders and others in order to foster peace in the region. The idea paid off, as oil production improved. Through this, the Vice President  and the peoeple  of Niger Delta, have shown to all and sundry that political will can resolve the problems in the region. When this initiative is sustained, peace would not only reign, but socio-economic activities in the country will improve.

    To what extent has the indigenous oil firms benefited from divestment of shares by oil majors?

    Local oil firms have benefited immensely from the divestment of stakes by foreign oil companies. The decision by the multinational oil companies such as Shell, Chevron, Agip and others to divest their shares in the industry, has boosted the operation of indigenous oil firms. The idea enabled local players to participate actively in oil exploration and production (E&P) activities, an area hitherto, regarded as an exclusive preserve of the multinational oil firms.

    The local firms that bought juicy oil fields from their foreign counterparts activated the fields, and record growth through them. As a result of this, local oil firms are contributing between five and 10 per cent to the nation’s oil output. Indigenous companies have doubled, tripled and quadrupled the output of the assets (oil) they bought from the oil majors. The divestment is a blessing to the oil industry, as it is helping indigenous operators to record growth.

    How many barrels of oil per day  are local operators producing?

    Indigenous companies that engage in oil exploration and production, such as Seplat, Aiteo, Oando and others, produce between five and 10 per cent of the total oil output, which is between 180,000 (bpd) and 200,000 (bpd). There are companies which produce between 70,000 bpd and 100,000 bpd. This is a no mean feat in the industry. It is a plus to the industry and the economy. What this is telling us is that if the local oil operators are given the opportunity, they would do well.

    Will the performance of local operators not  encourage competition in the industry?

    I do not think so. I do not expect any competition between the local and foreign owned oil companies that are operating in the country. Instead of indigenous oil companies engaging in competition with their foreign counterparts, they should try and discover areas, which they can leverage to achieve a reasonable level of growth. To forestall  competition, each entity in the oil and gas sector, should try and define area(s) where it can play better and the level at which it can  play in that area, to achieve growth. Also, each entity must be able to manage the resources of the country, in order to achieve results. When an oil firm knows where to play in the sector, it would be able to master the area well. When this happens, the firm in question would leverage it for growth, which is the main reason, why people go into business.

    Can Nigeria produce three million bpd or more, taking into consideration the challenges in the industry?

    Despite the problems in the oil industry, Nigeria produced 2.1 million bpd. Before Shell shut down its Bonga facility, which contributes 200,000 bpd to the nation’s oil output, for maintenance in March, the country has reached 2.1 bpd. Nigeria has capacity to produce 2.5 million (bpd) or 5 million (bpd). The International Oil Companies (IOCs) were producing 2.5 million bpd before they divested their shares in the industry, few years ago. They have got the capacity to explore and produce oil in large quantities. Once Nigeria can provide the infrastructure and further put in place measures that would prevent disruptions of activities in the oil sector, the country would produce between 2.5 million bpd and five million bpd.

    In all these, what is the place  of technology?

     I want you to understand the fact that technology is not owned by one person. Nobody can say he has all the technologies. So, who are those people that are operating in Seplat, Aiteo, Oando and other local oil firms? How many expatriates do we have in many of these companies? We seem to under-estimate the capacity and technical know-how of Nigerians, which is a big shame.  I have been in the industry for over 20 years now and I can tell you that some of the best technocrats in the industry are Nigerians. Unfortunately, we do not give credit to ourselves, may be because of the ways past leaders have mismanaged the country’s resources. Just look around any of the companies, which bought the assets from the IOCs, how many expatriates do they have? That is why I said  technology and technical know-how are not a preserve of any country. We have technology and technical expertise to produce millions barrel oil per day.

    What is your take on the oil production cut exemption granted Nigeria by OPEC?

    OPEC has the right to determine whether the cap on crude oil production would continue or not. The body has to make a decision on the issue, because the issue is salient  for Nigeria and Libya, the two countries in Africa, which were affected by OPEC’s decision. The exemption cut granted by the organisation to the two countries needs to be properly understood by Nigerians.  It is only when one understands the basis, that one can say the basis is still valid or not. If we look at the basis as Nigerians, we can say yes, the exemption should continue, since OPEC‘s goal is to stabilise the price of crude oil by checking the supply glut and further help the member’ countries grow their economies.

    What are the problems facing the local refineries?

    Our refineries are not being run as a business, hence the problem of low productivity, that is facing it. The refineries are not generating profit for the country, a development, which suggests that they are not established for business purpose. This is wrong. It is only when a project is run as a business, and the manager in charge of the project is made accountable that the project can generate profit. That is when the project can run effectively. Though the government has spent a lot of money to repair the refineries, it has little effects. The problem facing the refineries is more of corruption than technical. To the best of knowledge, the refineries do not have technical problem. It is corruption that does not allow our refineries to work well.

    Does this mean that some people are siphoning funds budgeted for the repairs of the refineries by the government?

    I do not know about that. What I know is that there is corruption in the system. Inability to fix the refineries is depriving the country of its shared values, as well creating room for sharp practices. The SWAP programme, through which crude oil was exchanged for fuel, refused to work, so also other initiatives introduced by the Federal Government to improve fuel supply  in the country. The issue of fixing the refineries is the best thing to do in Nigeria.

    Does that mean that the refineries cannot function well as long as they are managed by the government?

    Refinery is a serious business, which requires an effective management from its owner(s). Each refinery has its own capacity, vis-a-vis the number of barrels of crude oil per day it must refine, the amount of money invested on it and what it must deliver as a profit. To enable refineries achieve their goal of generating revenue for the country, private investors must be encouraged to establish refineries. Dangote Petrochemical Refinery is being built to refine 560,000 bpd and it would be run as business. Billed for completion in 2019, the refinery is being cited within Lekki-Ajah business corridor, Lagos, to generate profits. If similar refineries are built in other parts of the country, the problem of scarcity of fuel would be over.

    How can Nigeria address the problem of gas shortage in the power sector?

    To solve the problem, the government and other stakeholders in the value chain must invest in infrastructure. Building of gas pipeline is vital to the resolution of the crisis in the electricity sector. There is sufficient gas in the Eastern part of the country, while the Western part do not have gas. The pipeline cannot deliver enough gas  to the West. The OB3 pipeline that would connect the East and West together is yet to materialise. So, who is to do that? Also, there is a lot of gas in offshore area and there is a pipeline that takes gas from Bonny to the Nigerian Liquefied and Natural Gas (NLNG) headquarter in Bonny, Rivers State. But the capacity of the pipeline is not enough to take care of the operators in the offshore. Then, the question is: Who would provide the infrastructure that would deliver gas to the users? Is it the small operators that are battling to survive? Is the environment conducive enough to build pipeline that would supply enough gas? It is when the infrastructure is in place, that the problem of shortage of gas would be resolved in the electricity sector.

    Is the government capable of boosting investment in the gas and power sector?

    The government does not have enough money to invest in the sector. The private investors must come into the sector to salvage the situation. The private investors ( local and foreign) must invest to bridge the supply gap in the sector. There are people who are willing to invest in the gas infrastructure. The Lekki-Bonny gas project is one of them. A gas pipeline that would take three million cubic of gas per day from Bonny in Rivers State to Lekki, Lagos. This is a multi-billion dollar project that would ease supply of gas, in order to improve gas supply. The project is going to have multiplier effects on the economy. The sector needs more gas project to survive.

    How can the industry rid itself of huge debt burden?

    The sector should scale up investments in order to save itself from debts. The operators such as power generation companies (GenCos), power distribution companies (DisCos) and others, have incurred debts, because they do not have investments that would provide money for them. The banks are not providing loan to the firms, because they are unable to pay back. Banks are set for business, and they are therefore, not charity organisation. Now, that banks have closed their doors to the power firms, the best thing they can do to get out of the woods, is to create more opportunities for investments. By so doing, they would have enough money for operation, and in the process make profits.

    Why was Society of Petroleum Engineers(SPE) established?

    The reasons for setting up SPE are many. First, the body was formed in 1958, to provide standards for its members globally, who incidentally are operators in the oil and gas industry. Secondly, it ensures that the operators operate, in line with the industry best practices. Hitherto, an arm of the American Institute of Mechanical Engineers, SPE became a separate entity, after recording strings of successes, which resulted in growth in its membership base.

    Was there no standard in the oil industry, before the emergence of SPE?

    There is always room for improvement in everything a man does. SPE came to improve operation in oil and gas industry, by providing it with standards that would enable it to grow well. The standard, which is being used currently in the sector, was developed by the Petroleum Resource Management System (PRMS). The body, in conjunction with four others namely the American Association of Petroleum Engineering and Geo-physists (AAPEG), World Petroleum Congress (WPC), Society of Petroleum Exploration Geologists (SPEG) and Society of Petroleum Engineering Evaluators (SPEE) worked together to produce the standard.

    What are the achievements of  SPE so far?

    The body has developed a system, through which hydro carbon reserves and resources are classified and categorised. It also, collates and disseminates information, needed to move the industry forward, as well as providing services to departments such as Health Safety and Environment (HSE), petroleum economics, geology, facilities and others. Of interest is the use of professionals in the sector, by SPE, to gather information, which is used in stimulating growth.

    What is SPE doing to enforce compliance to its standards?

    SPE does not enforce compliance to its standards in the industry. The body is not an industry regulator and, as such, cannot provide roles outside its jurisdictions. SPE is charged with the responsibility of providing standards that would encourage the best practices in the oil and gas sector, while leaving the right to adopt and enforce compliance to the operators.

  • ‘Concession skewed in concessionaires’ favour’

    ‘Concession skewed in concessionaires’ favour’

    Can the Nigerian Ports Authority (NPA) dominate maritime business in Africa? Yes, says its Chairman, Mr Emmanuel Adesoye whose aim is to make the authority one of the best in the world. To achieve this, the board has introduced some innovations and reforms, such as review of concession agreement and consideration of payment for charges in Naira. With adequate infrastructure, he tells OLUWAKEMI DAUDA, NPA will surpass expectations and contribute more revenue to the treasury.

    As the Nigerian Ports Authority (NPA) chairman, what is your assessment of the ports?

    My assessment of the ports is that we have great assets in the Western, Eastern and the Warri ports. I am very impressed with the quality of the assets. Yes, there are few challenges here and there, but they are surmountable. Now, being on the Board provides a unique platform to make our collective contributions to further the advancement of our nation through one of the prime drivers of the economy – the Nigerian Ports Authority (NPA).

    You just started with issues of challenges, meaning you have obviously realised the Herculean task ahead of your Board. What are these challenges?

    There are lots of challenges. Take Apapa for instance. You see the gridlock, the bad roads, and the port access roads, all are very disheartening. You also see that some of the facilities are dilapidated infrastructure that need to be fixed. These are some of the physical challenges the Board and the management of NPA will have to address soon.

    The Apapa express road is appalling, given its economic importance to the economy. Yet, the government seems uninterested in rehabilitating it. Why has this been been difficult?

    I am sure not only the Federal Government is very much interested in fixing that road, the NPA and the Lagos State government are equally interested in repairing the road and I am sure hands are on deck to actualise this. If you talk to the management of the NPA, they will tell you that they have held several meetings with the Federal and Lagos State governments, and other stakeholders at the ports to fix the roads. The state government is collaborating with the Federal Government to address the issue.

    We, at the NPA, are addressing the issue of the gridlock along with the local management. The perennial Apapa gridlock, poor access roads leading to the ports and the absence or should I say non-functional truck holding bay – all of which have made port business tasking- would be resolved very soon. For instance, the Board, in collaboration with NPA management and the Federal Ministry of Transportation, are also exploring common strategies to ensure the speedy passage into law the Ports and Harbour bill by the National Assembly. It is hoped that when the bill becomes a law, it will provide appropriate framework for rapid port expansion and development, including capacity building.

    One of the problems facing the port is cargo diversion to the ports of neighbouring countries. What is your board doing to curb that?

    We must look at the issues that will make people divert their cargoes. Are they enjoying other things there? How many days does it take them to clear their cargoes there? That is why we must streamline our clearing processes and make our ports competitive. As a matter of fact, Nigeria supposed to be the hub of maritime  in the West and Central African sub-region. So, we should be the leading port in West Africa, if not in the whole of Africa. These are problems: we are not what we should be, but we are getting out of where we were and we are moving towards the right direction.

    What efforts are you making towards making the Nigerian Ports a hub?

    The board has a vision and it is to resolutely commit ourselves to the pursuit of excellence in service predicated on zero tolerance to corruption and its associated vices and also strengthen our regulatory role to concessionaires to make our ports the hub of maritime trade in Africa. We are also pursuing the core values of efficiency, customer and stakeholders satisfaction, safety and security in an innovative manner that would make our ports one of the best in the world.

    What is the NPA doing about the diversification of the economy?

    Indeed, the role of the NPA in the industrialisation and growth of economy, particularly during economic recession, cannot be overemphasised. It is a known fact that the maritime sector is one of the most important revenue earners for the government after the oil and gas sector. It, therefore, behoves on our Board in the performance of its oversight functions, to come up with concrete policies capable of rejuvenating the authority to confront and overcome its challenges.

    In what areas is your board contributing to NPA’s running?

    In transmitting the positive values of change in all ramifications, our Board is ensuring that the NPA is run in line with modern best practices comparable to the best ports in the maritime world. In actualising this conviction, we always seek expert advice both within and outside the Authority. The objective is to ensure that within our tenure of service, the NPA is elevated to a higher pedestal that will make it the hub of maritime business in both the West and Central African sub-region. This is why we are pursuing vigorously, core values of efficiency, customers’and stakeholders’ satisfaction, including safety and security, in an innovative manner. All these are geared towards making the ports attractive for business and generating more revenue for the government to meet its obligations to the good people of Nigeria.

    What are you doing about port infrastructure?

    The seaport infrastructure would be developed to meet international standard to boost efficiency at the port. Efficiency is a critical factor for handling goods in the international supply chains, and is viewed to impact transportation and logistics, which play an important role in trade exchange with other nations across the globe. Seaports have been considered to be essential elements in the international supply chains. They play a very important role and are the most critical nodes in the supply chain. It is widely believed that the seaports form vital link in the overall trading chain. The ports are components of freight distribution as they offer maritime to land interface for cross-border businesses. Therefore, the efficiency of seaport operations is vital for supply chains in our country and beyond. We have identified three areas as new framework of measuring performance of seaports. They are trade, logistics and supply chain channels and on these three areas, we are focusing seriously.

    What is your relationship with  other agencies at the ports?

    In our quest to improve the fortunes of the maritime sector, we are collaborating with sister agencies, such as the Nigerian Maritime Administration and Safety Agency (NIMASA), National Inland Waterways Authority (NIWA), and Nigeria Shippers Council (NSC), Ports’Concessionaires in implementating government maritime policies. In achieving this goal, the board has not lost sight in partnering terminal and other port operators in removing all encumbrances militating against our collective desire to achieve optimum performance and improved port services capable of attracting higher vessel patronage, which in turn will translate into more revenue for the nation.

    It is 11 years since the concession of the ports to private terminal operators. What is your take on the review of the agreement?

    Well, let me say that the concession of the ports to the private terminal operators was a laudable effort because it has increased the revenue of the government and that of the NPA. However, there is a lot for us to do in that direction because one of the visions of the   NPA board and management is to look at the concession, make it more friendly for both parties – the concessionaires and the NPA. Some of the concession agreements were skewed in favour of the concessionaires, and there are some other duties for us as the port owner that we also need to do. The overall review is ongoing and we believe at the end of the day, we will achieve a win-win solution to the concession that we have entered into.

    How long will it take the NPA to conclude the review?

    Well, as matter of fact, many of these concessions are for 25 years or more. The agreements were entered into in 2006, so we are talking of 10, 11 years, that means we are in the middle of the concession. The Board has set up the concession review committee, which is going to look at the concessions to ensure that it is win-win for both parties and that committee has started working right. We are looking at a group to work with the committee so that we can have a robust review of the agreement.

    Some of the terminal operators are indebted to the NPA. What are you doing to get them to pay?

    I think they are two ways. I think they owe the NPA and the NPA also  owes them as well. But the most important thing is for us to look at the accounts of those concerned and try as much as possible to ascertain who owes what. Apart from Intels, others also owe the NPA to the tune of N30billion. I am not unaware of this, most of it would not be unconnected with the currency of payment. For example, I know of a concessionaire who owes NPA about N30 billion and is ready to pay. But we wanted payment in dollars. That is an issue which we are trying to review. We are going to look at the situation and look at how best they can pay. We know that some of these people owe us, but the most important objective is to agree on the currency of payment and they are willing to pay.

    Are you against payment in our currency, which the concession-aires are willing to pay with?

    What was in the agreement ab initio? Was it that the currency of payment would be dollar denomination? So, why try to change that now by wanting to pay in naira? That is one issue. Their non-response to pay in dollar may not be unconnected with the scarcity of dollar. First of all, will the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN) be able to release this money to them in dollars if they have the naira? And that is one area to look at. When the concession was done, the dollar rate was not as high as it is today, but now, they have to go to the parallel market to buy dollar at N400 or more, and that is a big challenge, I agree.

    How do you reconcile this?

    That is why there is the need for the review of this concession to see how it can be solved. The bottom line is that they are running a normal trade in Nigeria and if they need the dollar, they should be able to approach the CBN. But would the CBN be able to give such money today, considering the scarcity of dollar?  So, those are the issues.

    With this scenario, will the concessionaires be justified if they increase their charges?

    I am not aware of any plan to increase charges and I am not sure this is the time to contemplate that. If they are talking of dollar increase, there are tremendous efforts by the Federal Government to shore-up the naira and I think that should inform any decision now. Agreed that in the last two to three months, there has been a geometric increase in dollar rate to the naira, but efforts have been made by the Federal Government and the CBN in recent time to address what led to the depreciation of the naira. Therefore, my advice to them (port concessionaires) is that they should not increase their charges, at least, for now. They need to review it with the management of NPA if they have to increase charges. But definitely, this is not the time to contemplate increase in charges.

    What is your board doing about the Calabar Port dredging? The public is of the opinion that it is an avenue to siphon public fund?

    Are you saying that the NPA paid for the award of the contract and it was not done? I am not aware of that if that is the case.

    Are you not also aware that the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC) is investigating the case now?

    Ok, I am sure the EFCC is a competent authority to announce anything that is being investigated.  But I am not aware of any payment made and the job was not executed.  If there is such a thing, I am sure the EFCC will unravel the problem, and bring it to the fore.

    What is the position of your board on the dredging?

    The dredging of the port in Nigeria is very important. If we have problem of dredging in Calabar, so also we have in Warri Port. But you see, you have to tie your development to the opportunities and the revenue that are available.  The concern, therefore, is, which one comes first? Is it the chicken or the egg? Which one do you want to do first? Is it the dredging and you don’t have any activity going on there or what? When you dredge and you don’t do anything, the thing can easily get silted and that means you have to come back again and again.

    Therefore, you have to look at it strategically and determine exactly the time to do it. I think what the Federal Government is doing through the EFCC is very importation. We should look at what is happening right now and try to unravel it. For us, as the management and Board of the NPA, we have to sit down and look at strategic plans to ensure that the ports are given a facelift.

    There are allegations that NPA is manipulating the procurement process?

    I am not aware of any manipulations.

    What procedure are you using in your procurement process?

    The procedures are there, and they are being adhered to, I believe. I believe that proper procedures are being followed in line with the procurement Act and the authority of the board of the NPA.

    What is the relationship between your board and management?

    There is cordial relationship between us.

     

  • ‘We have a defective economic structure’

    ‘We have a defective economic structure’

    Businesses are finding it difficult to operate under a volatile foreign exchange and poor infrastructure. To Tajudeen Akande, Senior Partner/Director of Africa Region Board, PKF Professional Services, an accounting and business advisory firm, the problems can be resolved through economic restructuring. He speaks with Group Business Editor SIMEON EBULU and Senior Correspondent COLLINS NWEZE.

    How would you match Nigerian accounting firms with their foreign counterparts?

    Matching, if you say so, yes. Apart from the new generation accounting firms, the big ones are all born by the foreign ones. All the people who started accounting practice in Nigeria trained with those ones.

    When the Institute of Chartered Accountants started local training, it was moderated by England and Wales. If there is any difference between the local accountants and the foreign ones, it will be the difference in attitude and the environment.

    PKF in Nigeria or PKF in the United Kingdom (UK) or any part of the world is the same. The first black man accountant, Akintola Williams, trained in the UK. All the people who started this practice were recruited in the UK and transferred to Nigeria.

    Does it mean that Nigerian accounting firms can stand shoulder-to-shoulder with those of developed countries?

    Oh yes. I can say that confidently. When we meet at conferences, I know that we still command some level of respect.

    I asked that question because the government always preferred foreign accountants for its jobs?

    It is the mindset. During the privatisation era, we had an international project with experts from the UK. They came and we were taking them to some project sites. We went to Abuja and had meetings with stakeholders and were meant to go to the European Commission Office in Abuja, and some other parastatals. So, when we got to one office, the gentlemen who came from the UK suggested that we should go to a particular office. We did not book for an appointment there. Then it was suggested that we should go there, because when they see a white face, they will let us in. And that was what happened. Even the foreigners know their mindset.

    How can that mindset be corrected because it is injuring the local firms’ interests?

    It is. I think we have to believe in ourselves and in our ability. I am not saying the West is not ahead of us. Also, when the International Financial Reporting Standards (IFRS) was introduced, we sent people abroad to learn about it.

    How helpful is the IFRS in validating the audit report in Nigeria?

    The truth is that the implementation of the IFRS by companies is far below expectations, with many firms only carrying out pure desk conversions. The IFRS is a new world order, in corporate reporting, that is currently altering  not only the financial accounting and reporting landscape, but also tax accounting/reporting, tax cash flows and tax distributable reserves.

    Despite the challenges faced in implementing the IFRS in the country, local companies should be praised given the level of improvement seen in reporting their operations. There is no doubt that developed countries are far ahead of Nigeria in the IFRS implementation plan. The truth is that there is still a lot of financial reporting that is IFRS in title in this part of the world.

    The IFRS main role is to ensure comparability of financial reports from different regions. To that extent, the IFRS has achieved that. But there are financial reports that are just IFRS in title, because when you dig deep into the requirements of IFRS you need systems that can produce certain information.  Even the country does not have that type of infrastructure that allows very robust IFRS reporting.

    The fair value principle is used to report companies quoted in the stock market. Let’s take the capital market for instance, the IFRS reporting is based on fair value. In some other jurisdictions, you go to the market where the products are traded. If you want to sell anything in some developed countries, you just need to Google the product and the prices will show.

    We are not doing badly, but we are not there yet. We need to admit that some of these constraints exist, so that regulators can continue to improve and help the level of implementation.

    What level of implementation has local companies recorded in IFRS?

    Every company in Nigeria should be reporting their accounts based on the IFRS. Yes, they started with public interest companies, like banks and others. They are a set of standards, they are rules. To comply means you must have the skills, and resources to do those things required by the standard.

    Of course, if the law says you must do IFRS, you have to. To that extend, compliance is 100 per cent. IFRS is a system-based financial reporting standard. The infrastructure is a challenge. Some of them are not just lack of ability to implement those standards. The economy itself lacks some of those infrastructures. The principle of fair value is very important in IFRS implementation.

    When businesses become target driven, then people must begin to prove that the resources are accounted for. The fair value principle requires that every year, one must state the fair value of the material. Still, banks have been able to comply better than other institutions when it comes to IFRS implementation because they can afford to buy sophisticated software for the IFRS implementation. We are managing to make the best of a bad situation.

    What is it that we cannot get right in our leadership, as every time, leaders keep postponing developmental goals?

    The first things, is that our screening process is weak. It is non-existent. Because when you talk of leadership, you mean, effective leadership. An effective leader is a person that can translate vision, into reality. You need effective leadership to move from conceptualisation to reality. That is why I said it is our screening system that determines the leader. What are the qualities of a good leader? What characteristics should the person have for him to be adjudged an effective leader? Is he principled, is he a visionary, is he effective, does he have integrity? These things are important so that even within your own boardroom, a candidate’s name comes up, you must be able to tick the box, and say, I had a relationship with him in time past, in terms of integrity. I give it to him. Is he firm? We must be able to have those sets of values. Like this current leader, I think the main thing that goes for him is that he is not corrupt. But there must be some other things. But we need to go beyond those things, so that we do not have same of same  all over again.

    Let’s talk about the economy. Is it where it is supposed to be?

    The straight answer is that the economy is not what it should be. The next question is why? The main problem with the economy is the structure of the country. Our economy is mono-product. Over 90 per cent of the government’s foreign exchange earnings comes from oil. Seventy per cent of total revenues comes from oil, that is the problem of the economy. Even me, the ethical rule of my practice is that if one client is generating up to 30 per cent of my income, I should not take that client because when the client sneezes, I shiver.

    So, what happens in the international oil market affects us. It is not whether we are competent or not. The second problem is our consumption pattern. I do not have the statistics to compute the percentage, but we are like 80 to 90 per cent import-dependent.

    The import-dependent mono-product, the relationship to that has affected the economy, because since mid-2014, oil process and other commodity prices have been down. Oil prices had at some point, dropped to $38 per barrel, about a third of our revenues down. That is what has put pressure on the exchange rate.

    The economy is sitting on three variables- Inflation rate, exchange rate and interest rate. What the monetary authority does is to manage the economy by trying to do something on each of them. When the interest rate has gone up so high, importers would need more naira to get the same amount of dollar. So, they may need to borrow, and that pushes up your interest rate. So, when your exchange rate is up, your interest rate is up and your inflation will go up and that is the first structural problem.

    The second one is where we would have gotten our cushion. Not just the oil prices that are down, commodity prices are also down. So, the only economy that can survive is an economy that is industrial. An economy that is producing and if you look at statistics 2015/2016, all the economies contrasted a little, from about 2.1 per cent of the Gross Domestic Product (GDP) to 1.6 per cent.

    Nigeria’s economy went into deep recession because we had no cushion. The only economy that survived was China and Japan. Why? Production. Even if you had visited Dubai five years ago and revisited two years ago, you will see that even construction work was stopped. Even Saudi Arabia was affected. For Nigeria, we are only interested in living easy life. Oil money comes, we spend it. And we spend it by just throwing the money back to the developed countries. We imported everything.

    What is the way out?

    We need to diversify the economy away from oil. We need a leader, who is determined to move the economy away from overdependence on oil. We need to do some kind of mass national orientation so that we begin to change our overdependence on foreign products. Then industrialisation. Can we begin to produce those imported products? We need to make life easy for people to do business in Nigeria. Key infrastructures that will drive the economy have to be privatised. Number one of them is power. Then means of transportation, roads, rail among others. Even Dubai today has Metro lines.

    How would you access the Central Bank of Nigeria’s management in the ongoing foreign exchange crisis?

    Number one, I believe that the Central Bank has too many experts and consultants it is working with that have information that is not readily available. As an informed observer, my view is that whatever monetary policy it wants to adopt, let it be consistent. We cannot change one quarter this way, another quarter the other way. If you are floating the currency, float it. You cannot have floating flexible exchange rate. Then you have a corridor you cannot go beyond. Half measures cannot work. If you want to control the exchange rate, let it be, if you want to have market determined exchange rate, let it be. People want to know where the Central Bank is going. Again, you cannot have a monetary policy in isolation of what you are doing with the fiscal policy. Somehow, the CBN and the Ministry of Finance must be talking. They must work together. All they are doing with the fiscal policies, in terms of taxes, taxation, and all that ultimately affects your monetary policy. What you are doing with the monetary policy will ultimately affect the fiscal policy. So, it is not when the implications are out, you will rush another policy to reverse the policy. That will be inexcusable.

    As a businessman, has this foreign exchange policy affected your operations?

    Yes. Even though I render services, but what affects my clients ultimately affects me. In 2016, my revenues were less than what they were in 2015. In 2016, for the first time, I have more management team coming to have meetings with me for a deduction in fees. It is either you do not want us to pay what we already owe you. I also have companies that are technically dormant, so, I cannot earn fees from them. It affects my members of staff. They go to the market and buy things. For the first time since 65 years of our operation, we did not have an annual increment in salary.

    It is taken as given in this office, that every January you will have a new salary package. For the first time, in my own working career, we did not have that. Honestly, I did not even see my workers agitate, which is fantastic about the level of understanding we have. It means they equally understand the state of the economy.

    Why did you think the blame was on the forex exchange crisis?

    My honest view is that information was not available. So, people are reacting based on emotions. The truth is that foreign exchange was not available. There was a time they released data, showing that the weekly foreign exchange bidding was $2.5 billion while the weekly revenue was $500 million.  So, there is already a gap and they cannot use everything to fund the market. Some of the entities that left, left because of uncertainty. In a bad situation, businessmen will make money out of it if the right information is provided. If there is certainty, businesses will plan for it. But the managers of the economy were not putting the right information to the public at the right time. They delayed for too long before doing what the people expected. I think they have released the economy blueprint, which in itself will be studied by corporate entities.

    How can we address illegal foreign exchange hawkers?

    We need to reinforce discipline in the economy. I do not want them to chase people on the street. They need to remove any control on the official rate. If you are floating, float. Let everyone have access to the same foreign exchange. Once the gap between the official and parallel market rates is closed, there will be normalcy. Once the gap is no longer there, the issue of round tripping will be a thing of the past. The government should create other sources of foreign exchange inflow. There should be guarantee that investors can easily exit.

    Likewise, the Eurobond offer, which was oversubscribed, has helped to boost foreign reserves. The government needs to open up other revenue plans that are denominated in dollars. If the debate about selling national assets is that if you sell them, if it is in naira, it is not going to solve the problems.

    If you sell national assets and in the future similar problems occur, what will you sell?

    You have a problem, and you want to solve it, you better solve it. You see, you have a problem, solve it. Then, you need to do something to say this should not happen again. Another thing could happen.

    Do you realise that when something happens, the developed economies spend a lot of money to do investigations, even when they knew that thing has gone? Even in murder case of 20 to 30 years, they keep following it up. I am sure they do not want to just spend tax payers’ money, but to find out why it happened. An effective leader ensures that the problems do not reoccur. We need to take emotion out of it. If a business has a problem, you can sell some of the shares. You can even sell only 10 per cent of those assets. For you to control a business, you need 51 per cent.

    Why has privatisation of power not worked?

    They privatised only distribution. You need to generate power for them to distribute. We need to unbundle the laws on power. Even the small generations that state governments are getting have to be supplied to the national grid. They need to review the law. In Nigeria, it is still against the law to generate your own power.

    Speak to the Small and Medium Enterprises sector. Here we have several SMEs, still nothing is happening. Why?

    The ease of doing business in Nigeria is frustrating. The government knows exactly what to do, but they are not doing that. There are many bottlenecks from company registration to tax registration to even electricity generation. There are several factors that ensure that SMEs do not get off the ground. The mortality rate of SMEs in other jurisdictions is very high, but they still survive. Take for instance, if you register a company, you have to go through processing receipts, the day you open a file with tax authority, the next day, you are in trouble. The tax authorities will just swap on you. In short, voluntary tax compliance puts SMEs in trouble. But I think the government is doing something about that.

    The government has given N500 billion to Bank of Industry so that the young graduate who does not have money can start SMEs. But the ease of doing business has to improve and then the availability of funds. There is also the need to mentor SMEs on corporate governance and how to package a bankable business plans.They should not just get the money and keep it. They have to understand that regulatory compliance is key. We, at PKF, have to also help the SMEs on governance structure. We need to render free seminars to help the SMEs. Let’s begin to disabuse our minds about cutting corners. If you need licences, then you have to get them.

    Yours is  an international accounting body. The rating agencies keep rating banks and the government. How are they impacting on the companies?

    The ratings are basically meant to help the company give assurances to people they do business with, either the lenders and others. It says that this entity is rated so much, which means the chances of not defaulting on its obligations is high, and all that. The objective is to give confidence and assurances to those that will do business with the company. When a rating is strong, it means that your international financiers will be confident; suppliers will release goods knowing that the banks will pay the bills.

    So, you have to initiate the ratings?

    It is a standard practice for some companies, but you have to submit yourself for rating and the agencies will give you the template.

    But can it be influenced?

    There is nothing in the world that cannot be influenced, lets’ not deceive ourselves. But top rating agencies always have control measures to guard against that. For instance, in my office here, if I send a team to go and audit, there is an engagement leader, a manager, a partner, who services that team. And behind that, there is a quality assurance department. And then there is an independent reviewer. If you finish, you send a file so that somebody can look at that. Then the person will want to look at the facts and the conclusion.

    Are there correlations between what you set out to do, and what you actually did when you were there, your findings and conclusions?  You can say it can be tailored, but from my experience, even when you read through, you can know that it is too good to be true. There is an independent person that looks at it, the person has no contact with the client and the team. He looks at this against other independent information. The day any of those reports suffer credibility problem, the rating agency will be out of business. But that does not mean it is 100 per cent perfect.

    How much of these blames will accountants take?

    Everything. Because they are supposed to be the professional, that should be taking the professional stand. Yes is yes. No is no. If I run foul, I am the one that should suffer the licence, humiliation. So, accountants should be the ones putting things right.

    The xenophobic attacks in South Africa and the retaliatory effect on MTN Nigeria, does theey speak well for the two countries?

    No, they don’t. It will adversely affect their economy. The last time I had them send trainers here, or bring conferences here was maybe 2003 or so. Jos is 5,000 kilometres away from Lagos. Unfortunately, South Africa is doing this, which is not going to be good for their economy. It shouldn’t happen, but unfortunately, it is happening.

    There was a time I supposed to have a board meeting in South Africa, I was like can we do it through teleconference or we go to another place. Of course, I have to react that way. A big investor will also react that way. On the diplomatic level, we shouldn’t be doing retaliatory attacks on MTN because we are beyond that. As long as we are able to demonstrate that we are beyond that, then we are in a position of strength. Look at what is in the Middle East; you see that in whatever way you see it. Britain has handled it above emotional reaction. You won’t see the kind of emotional reaction you will see from a Russia or America of today. We must understand that it is in their psyche. Those people, since they were born, they have known nothing other than struggle.

  • ‘Off-grid supply way out of power crisis’

    ‘Off-grid supply way out of power crisis’

    Despite being privatised, the power sector remains sick, forcing many firms to either close down or relocate elsewhere. To address the problem, former National Independent Power Projects (NIPPs) Executive Director Dr Albert Okorogu, in this interview with AKINOLA AJIBADE, urges the Federal Government to provide incentives to investors to harness the alternative energy sector’s potential to boost off-grid power supply. Okorogu, Executive Vice Chairman of Green Elect, a French firm, which specialises in renewable energy, also urges action on gas shortage and dilapidated infrastructure, among others.

    What is the state of the power sector?

    The sector is in a horrible situation, in spite of the fact that many people have worked hard to reposition the industry for better performance. Years ago, when I was the Executive Director, National Independent Power Projects (NIPPs), I, alongside other Nigerians, worked to facilitate the growth of the sector.  We tried to reduce the gaps in the supply of electricity in the country. But we realised that the more we worked, the lesser the results recorded.

    Besides gas supply, what are the sector’s other problems?

    Although gas is the major problem facing the sector, there are other problems. They are bottlenecks weaved around transmission and distribution of electricity in the country by people. They include dilapidated infrastructures, funding, sabotage and several others.  To fix these problems, stakeholders, including the Federal Government, would need nothing less than N20 trillion between 2017 to 2020, at least, to produce 20,000 megawatts (Mw) of electricity. More money would still be needed because 20,000 Mw of electricity cannot be enough.

    How many megawatts of electricity is Nigeria managing now?

    Generation is not static. As at today, the country is generating 3,000 Mw of electricity. We are struggling to generate 4,000 Mw of power. In the past, the country generated 5,000 Mw of electricity, which dropped to 4,000 Mw and later 3,000 Mw.

    How many megawatts do we need to stabilise power supply?

    To answer that question, one needs to get the per capital income of Nigeria first. For better illustration, let us consider a case of South Africa, a smaller country, but with huge Mw of electricity. The country boasts of 45 million people, while its generates 40,000 Mw of electricity from both on-grid and off-grid sources. This include the traditional sources of generating power such as turbines and non-traditional sources as solar, wind, bio-mass and others. This implies that Nigeria, which has a population of 170 million people, must generate between 160,000 and 170,000 Mw of electricity to achieve the desired growth. When this happens, the country can claim sufficiency in the area of power supply. But as things are, Nigeria still has a long way to go.

    Can the country generate 170,000Mw of electricity under the prevailing economic reality?

    The feat is achievable. What Nigeria needs to do is to get enough money to record growth. Generating 170,000 Mw of power, depends on the funds, which the country has. Though Nigeria is not buoyant financially, however, it must make some trials. To achieve the feat, the government must create an enabling environment by formulating and implementing policies that would attract investors into the country. The investors must have the knowledge of the country they are investing in, what to gain from such investment and how to sustain it. When these happen, investors would come to Nigeria and the 170,000 Mw of power would be realised.

    Has the Federal Government been able to get institutions abroad to finance the power industry?

    I guess that is what the government is doing now. The government has shopped for investors abroad to help lift the sector. But, the country is batting problems such as rising cost of dollars and its attendant scarcity. This has affected the importation of equipment needed in the power and other sectors of the economy. I am happy that the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN) is trying to solve the problem posed by scarcity of dollars. The earlier the apex bank arrested the situation, the better for the sector and the economy in general.

    You said government alone could not provide the money needed to accelerate the sector’s growth. Are the banks well disposed to playing this role?

    The local banks are not ready to finance the nation’s power sector. The local banks are not business friendly. They are not tailored to promote businesses. They are not taking the lead by creating a level playing ground for investors to operate.

    But what about the offshore financial institutions?

    They are also not ready. The foreign banks are unable to provide necessary assistance for the  power sector because they do not see the initial commitment from their local counterparts. The local banks have refused to provide financial support for operators in the power sector. The foreign financial institutions are also not ready to assist the power sector in Nigeria. The absence of appropriate financing structure is causing problems in the industry. To solve these problems, the Federal Government must  formulate the right policies to guide the banks, investors and other critical stake-holders on how to do business in the sector.

    The double digit interest rate has made loans unattractive to investors in Nigeria. Will it not be an impediment to investors, who wish to invest in the sector?

    Yes, it would. But Nigerian banks can minimise the costs of obtaining loans by reducing their interest rates. Also, the banks can provide flexible and cheaper means of borrowing money. Whenever banks provide loans to customers, they expect their customers to pay back within three years. This period is too short for customers to service their loans. This scenario, is different from what obtains in United States (US), where people get mortgages and are given an expanded period of between 15 and 30 years to pay back their loans, depending on the agreement, which they have signed with the firms offering mortgage services.

    Why are buyers of the defunct Power Holding Company of Nigeria (PHCN) unable to finance the sector to achieve growth?

    The answer is simple-the investors do not have enough money to invest in the industry. They have liquidity challenge, ditto other operators in the sector. Liquidity is a problem, which permeates every segment of the industry. The  power generation companies (GenCos), power distribution companies (DisCos), Transmission Company of Nigeria (TCN), Electricity Bulk Purchasing Company Limited, gas suppliers and firms that provide renewable energy services,  other critical stakeholders in the sector, do not have enough money to play with. When one considers the fact that all the stakeholders are having financial problems, one would not find it difficult to conclude that liquidity is a problem in the sector.

    Investors in the assets of PHCN, gas suppliers, transmission agency and others, lacked the wherewithal to make the sector grow. There is no money anywhere. The DisCos are  unable to get enough money for their operation, the transmission lines were vandalised and could not be replaced; the gas pipelines are being destroyed by militants in the Niger Delta region, and the electricity consumers are not paying their  bills as at when due.

    Emphasis appears to be on what investors can gain from investing in the sector and not its growth. Is that so?

    Not really. Globally, investors are motivated by the desire to make profits. Every businessman is driven by profits and whenever Nigeria invites either local or foreign investors to assist in developing its power sector, the investors would be asking for returns on investments. When investors get dividends on their investments, they would attract more people to the industry. However, Nigeria has no clear statement as to what it would get from investors when they come. Frankly speaking, time has come for the country to change its mindset. The country needs to move from what I described as ‘power point presentation’ to the power plants production. To transit, the Federal Government must create an enabling environment for investors in Nigeria.

    Why couldn’t the National Independent Power Projects (NIPPs)  boost supply in line with the Federal Government’s aspiration?

    The NIPPs are experiencing gas problem, and as a result, are unable to generate enough electricity for the country. Basically, the projects are meant to generate and distribute electricity for Nigerians. They have their own generating plants and distribution networks. But they are unable to produce sufficient power, due to problem of gas. NIPPs have good power plants, but unfortunately, the plants are unable to get enough gas to generate electricity. The owner of the plants, which is the Federal Government, could not provide letter of credits for suppliers of gas in order to assist the plants get enough gas for generation. Besides, the fact that gas pipelines and transmission lines were vandalised by unscrupulous people, posed a major problem to the operators of the NIPPs. Due to gas constraints, firms, are not ready to bid for the plants. Those who bided for the plants backed out later because of fears of leaving the plants idle because of the gas challenge.

    Does that mean that the plants are not well situated?

    The plants are properly situated by the government. The plants are managed by the Niger Delta Power Holding Company (NDPHC), a development, which ensured that they are cited where gas which is in the Niger Delta region. The plants are situated in the corridors of gas, but they are unable to get gas for production of power, due to certain problems. Though some power plants are cited far from gas, the NIPPs plants are not. Another problem facing the NIPPs is money. The projects are experiencing dearth of funds, a development, which has made it difficult for the government to complete them. For instance, the Transmission Company of Nigeria (TCN) owes NIPPs and other generation companies over N100 billion. The TCN is yet to pay the money due to one reason or the other. The debts have been transferred to the government of President Muhammadu Buhari by the administration of former President Goolduck Jonathan.

    It is believed in some quarters that renewable energy sources produce fewer megawatts, and cannot provide the quantum of electricity needed for the economy. How do you react to this?

    That is not true (Cuts in). Electricity generation is a function of money. It is only when you limit generation to prototype version that you would not generate enough power. That is when you use solar panel to generate electricity for homes. But when you use what is described as ‘concentrated solar power’ you generate huge megawatts. This type of generation could be compared to turbines, through which gas is used to generate electricity. Under the concentrated solar power, the operator focuses on the rays of light from the sun, use the steam, that is generated from it to drive the turbines. This method works favourably with the turbines and generates hundreds of Mw of electricity.

    Can you expatiate on the process of generating electricity, using concentrated solar power?

    This method is needed in communities. For instance, if a community needs five Mw of electricity and after going to the community, I realise the community has a lot of sunshine. I will create a mini or micro utility plant, which can be expanded to accommodate growth and flaws in the system. Through this, I would be able service many people, apart from those on the national grid. It is not a matter of how many Mw of electricity I can provide. It is a matter of meeting the specific needs of people. In generating electricity for the people, we try as much as possible to factor in the cost of extending grid from one community to another.

    Why can’t Nigeria produce enough electricity from renewable energy sources despite its natural endowments?

    There are enough natural potential in Nigeria. We have sun, coal, bio-mass and other natural resources in abundance to generate electricity. But the country is drunk with ‘petrol’ money. Everybody wants to make money through oil. But the government of President  Buhari is trying to change the status quo. The government wants the country to diversify its sources of earnings. This government wants to wean us. You know when you have babies, you would like to wean the babies before you give them real food. This government wants to expose us to other things. We are so much exposed to petrol money such that we do not want to do any other things. I believe that once we are able to change our mindsets by exploring other sources of earning income, the country would be better. One of these sources is renewable energy, which can bring a lot of money to the economy, if well explored.

    What other natural products can be used to produce power?

    There is no reason why we should not start using clean coal, because it is available. For some time now, coal has been a dirty means of producing energy because of pollution. Also, we have bio-mass. In Lagos, there are more than 20,000 tons of wastes daily. We can use 8,000 out of 20,000 tons of bio-mass, to generate three Mw of electricity. We can also use diesel, wax or water from faeces to generate electricity. Onitsha, the capital of Anambra State, boasts of heaps of tyres, which can be converted to produce energy.

    What can be done to improve generation through renewable energy?

    The regulators are trying to come up with favourable policies to spur the growth of the sector. Few years ago, the government drafted the policies guiding the implementation of renewable energy. I was in the team that drafted the policies. Interestingly, the policies have undergone review and are coming up better. That was when I served as the Special Assistant on Renewable Energy to the former Minister of Power, Prof Chinedu Nebo. So, renewable energy solution is coming up in Nigeria and I believe the solution is the best for Nigeria, which is struggling to get things right in its energy sector.

    What advice do you have for operators in the power sector?

    A short-term ideas, factors or solutions would produce help in achieving long-term goals. The only thing, which the Federal Government can do, is to provide incentives to the operators in the sector by providing them with favourable policies. When this happens, operators would work well to provide money for the sector and the economy in particular.

    What is the major problem of crude oil processing?

    Processing crude oil into petroleum products such as petrol, diesel and kerosene is not a  serious as Nigerians have been made to believe. But I would reserve my comment because the area is outside my purview.

    What is your take on irregular fuel supply?

    There is no way you can talk about irregular fuel supply without talking about other factors that are associated with it. One of them is the price of fuel. The fuel price in Nigeria is better, when compared  with other countries. The only problem is that the earning power in Nigeria is not commensurate with the price of fuel. The earning power of many Nigerians is low, hence the complain about the price of fuel. The price of fuel is still better. When you travel to the US, you would know that the price in Nigeria is better. Over there, the price of fuel is much higher.

    The Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC) has come up with Direct Sales and Direct Purchase (DSDP) import model, through which it would allocate crude to refineries abroad and get fuel in return. What are the prospects of this deal?

    Like I said, I do not want to comment on projects that were undertaken by the NNPC. The Corporation has its own problems. I am not directly in that field, hence my refusal to say anything that would be in direct conflict with the organisation.