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  • Dying on the job

    Dying on the job

    Amid concerns by experts, industrial accidents resulting in deaths or injuries, including the loss of arms and fingers, is on the rise with little or no compensation for hapless victims, writes Kunle Akinrinade.

     

    IT was a tragic afternoon on November 22, 2019 at Landcraft Industry Nigeria Limited in Ikorodu, Lagos. A 50-year-old employee of the company, Sunday Usenobong, died after he allegedly slipped and fell into a melting pot while operating the company’s moulding machine.

    His death came two days after a 35-year-old man, Olatunde Femi, died after he got his head trapped while operating a moulding machine at Multipak Nigeria Limited, situated at Plot F28, Kudirat Abiola Way, Oregun, Ikeja.

    A similar fate befell 14-year-old Joseph Ekwenobe in June 2018 as he got electrocuted while working on a casual basis at Cheng-Fa Nigeria Limited, a footwear company in Ikeja, Lagos. The teenager, who was placed on a daily wage of N700, died from the incident.

    Many other workers have cheated death but only survived with permanent disabilities. One of them is Anthony Effiong, an orphan.

    The indigene of Akwa Ibom State had no one to help him actualise his dream of returning to school to further his education.

    To actualise his dream, therefore, the 23-year-old school leaver sought employment at KGEM Manufacturing Limited, a plastic manufacturing company located in Isolo area of Lagos.

    Effiong had planned to save a part of his meagre salary as a casual worker to sponsor himself through school. Sadly, his dream collapsed like a pack of cards on October 26, 2016.

    Effiong had barely started work when his immediate boss, an Indian national, increased the speed of the machine he was operating in an unusual manner.

    The machine malfunctioned and severely lacerated Effiong’s right hand. The badly damaged hand was subsequently amputated on doctors’ advice.

    Effiong believes that he would not have lost his hand if he had been rushed to the Lagos State University Teaching Hospital (LASUTH), Ikeja, immediately the accident occurred. He, however, said the company’s management did not act on time.

    ‘I lost my right hand to a malfunctioning machine’

     

    He said he had been redeployed from the assembly unit to the moulding section a few weeks after he was employed without any adequate training as required by labour regulations.

    He said: “At that stage, I wanted to approach one of the management staff to plead with him to redeploy me back to the assemblage department, but I was advised by my colleagues that such a request would be treated by the Indian overlords as a taboo, and the consequence would be a sack,” said Effiong whose hand was subsequently amputated on doctors’ advice.

    Effiong’s pathetic case echoed in the plight of Daniel Adoga, who also had the misfortune of losing his right hand while he was operating a grinding machine at a plastic factory in 2004.

    Recalling the incident, Adoga said: “I was on night duty and we were putting rubber in the machine. The machine had cut off my hand before I knew it.

    I am a family man with a wife and children. I go through considerable difficulties to feed my family. I have had to farm with one hand.

    “Several other workers had previously been injured by the same machine. We told the factory owners that the machine was dangerous but they did not take any action. The machine is still there as I speak and there are no protective kits to guard against injuries.”

     

    Other severe cases

    Life will never be the same again for Amuta Friday. His once bubbling mood has taken a descent into despair since he lost his manhood after stepping on a slippery floor with his testicles crashing into a sharp object while he was working at an engineering company on the outskirts of Lagos a few years ago.

    Despite a year-long treatment and series of surgery he underwent at LASUTH, Amuta is today impotent and unmarried.

    Recalling the incident, he said: “I slipped and fell, crashing my penis and testicles against a sharp object. I started bleeding profusely.

    “Even now, I know that my body has lost something precious. It would have been better if it happened while I was a child. My father gave birth to me and he expects me to give birth to my own children. Unfortunately, I cannot.”

     

    Why workplace accidents are prevalent

    Most companies in Nigeria, especially in the manufacturing sector, pay lip service to adequate provision of safety measures and training of employees on the necessary precautions to safeguard them in the work environment.

    The major culprits are companies established by Asian entrepreneurs in the country, many of whom have been indicted for having scanty regards for the health and safety of workers at their factories.

    This was the case with Ekwenobe’s death at Cheng-Fa, which prompted the Lagos State Safety Commission to seal off the company after the safety agency found that the footwear firm compromised acceptable safety standards and its factory was not safe and conducive for workers.

    Following investigations carried out at the factory, the agency also said there was exposure of electrical wires, non-provision of safety signage, lack of standard chairs, absence of standard toilets, lack of protective wears at the factory, unsafe stacking of goods and overcrowding, among others.

    Apart from flouting labour laws by engaging teenagers as workers for long hours with meagre wages, the then Director-General of safety commission, Lanre Mojola, said “it was also stated that the access routes are not clearly demarcated. As a matter of fact, the company’s entire safety management protocol is allegedly poor.

    “A representative of the commission had asked the company to provide their emergency kit but unfortunately, they couldn’t provide any.

    In response, the company’s lawyer stated that they are in partnership with the General Hospital located around the area where the workers are normally sent to when they fall sick.”

    It was said that Multipak Nigeria Limited where Olatunde died also committed safety infractions and disregard for protection of workers at the factory. It was alleged that the company had been sealed off after the accident.

    Mojola said: ”The Chinese company will not be reopened until all the safety measures are adequately met.

    Had the company observed laid-down safety guidelines, put up signs and ensured proper housekeeping, Olatunde’s death would have been avoided.

    Poor compensation for injured workers

    The injury rate is very high in the manufacturing sector where most industrial accidents occur while the victims are operating machines.

    In Nigeria, there is no adequate compensation and provision for workers who suffer disability on active duty. Although employers of labour in public and private sectors are to defray the medical bill of injured workers from a dedicated sum based on the salary of workers, there has not been strong compliance with the regulation or policy

    The plight of casual workers, worsened by their lack of gainful employment, robs them of any claim or compensation from their employers for workplace injuries.

    In the case of Effiong, it was said that his employers failed to honour its promise to compensate him for his permanent injury.

    His brother, Okon said: “Why didn’t they take Effiong to a government-owned hospital? They should be made to pay dearly for their outright negligence.”

    For his injuries which led to the loss of his manhood, Amuta got a meagre 150 dollars as compensation. The pitiful sum is like adding insult to injury.

    Sometime in 2015, three workers of a Lagos-based company, African Steel Mills, Ifeanyi Okoro, Monday Abah and James Nuekwu, in separate suits filed at the National Industrial Court in Lagos, hinged their permanent bodily injuries on the lack of safety devices at the company.

    Okoro’s (a crane operator) left leg had been amputated, Abah, a furnace operator, lost three fingers while Nuekwu claimed he suffered a third degree burn on his left leg which required skin grafting surgery.

    The trio sought N25m, N20m and N30m respectively as insurance claim and special and general damages.

    At the end of the legal tussle, the company and the litigants adopted an amicable settlement out of court. But what the company paid the trio as compensation was a far cry from the sums they demanded.

    Okoro, was paid a sum of N2 million instead of N10m he demanded for the amputation of his left leg, Abah got N1.2m compensation for the three fingers he lost while Nuekwu was paid N800, 000 for the burns he suffered at work.

     

    Weak regulations, enforcement

    A labour law expert, Joseph Iruobe, said that most of the victims who are subjected to harsh working conditions and are denied adequate compensation for workplace injuries are casual workers, whose existence is extraneous to labour regulations in the country.

    “There are laws which safeguard or protect workers in the country from poor pay and hazards on duty, which extends to compensation for permanent injuries.

    One of them is the Workmen’s Compensation Act, but casual workers who suffer injuries on duty are not covered by the law because they are not categorised as bonafide workers,” Iruobe said.

    He noted that the regulation frowns at prolonged casualization, adding that ”This is why the Act mandated companies must regularise casual workers as bonafide staff

    ”However, many employers flout the law by hiring and firing casual workers within three months and re-engaging them for another three months to perpetuate their status as casuals.”

    In a recent interview, an expert in Labour Law, Femi Aborisade, said despite the fact that the Employee’s Compensation Act offers better protection to Nigerian workers than the repealed Workmen’s Compensation Act, 1987, there is still a lot of room for improvement.

    Aborisade said, “The rates of compensation are higher under the Employee’s Compensation Act. There is a kind of calculation that is done depending on the kind of injury sustained.

    Though in my point of view it is still poor but it is better than what was obtainable under the Workmen’s Compensation Act. It is not good enough, but there is a slight improvement.”

    Aborisade said given any opportunity, the Employee’s Compensation Act is due for an amendment, adding that “I have a booklet on it and I have advocated an amendment of various aspect of the Act.”

     

    Way forward

    An industrial safety expert, Anyanwu Chidiebere, recently noted that although industrial injuries have been taken care by certain laws in the country, he said that the relevant laws have been flagrantly breached by employers.

    “The issue of compensation for industrial injuries, Nigeria has addressed it. Nigeria has passed the level where if your hand is amputated as a result of industrial accident, you will ask the company to compensate you.

    Nigeria has enacted the Employees Compensation Act and the National Social Insurance Trust Fund. If your hand is cut off, you can benefit from the fund but the issue is that the company is supposed to have registered every of its workers in line with the ECA Act with the National Social Insurance Trust Fund but many companies are failing in this duty, which is a breach of the law for which companies can be shut down by the National Assembly in the performance of its oversight function.”

    “There are several breaches in the industries. And it is not only the multinational companies that kill and maim Nigerians; we also have indigenous companies in the country.

    Some of them do not have signboards, they keep maiming citizens in their factories and everyday we have records of such victims and we cry out.

    “These companies have breached all the laws of the federation. But you asked what our council is doing to stop the maiming in the industries.

    One of the steps that we have taken is that we have listed a lot of companies and taken them before the National Assembly and addressed it to the Senate on the 10th of December 2015.

    Now the question is: between then and now, what has the Senate done? The Senate has not done anything.

    The question is: why can’t the Senate carry out its responsibility to stand up and defend Nigerians who are dying in the industries?

    I have presented the report to them so that they can carry out their oversight function, but I have neither seen nor heard that the Senate is doing anything about it.”

    He added: “The issue is that many of these companies have not complied with the provisions of the Factory Act 2014 and the only way that we (council) can exercise our power under democracy is by cautioning them and reporting them to the National Assembly, which has the overriding powers to, as lawmakers, see where and how industries in the country are breaching the laws in line with their oversight functions. But the Senate has not performed that oversight function.”

    A labour rights activist, Boniface Nwachukwu urge the relevant trade unions to rejig their engagement machinery to tackle the neglect suffer by victims of industrial accidents, noting that” the fight for adequate compensation for victims of occupational accidents should not be left for the victims and their lawyers alone.

    ”The relevant trade unions should step in by engaging and demanding from any employer whose workers might have been injured adequate compensation to take care of both the physical and emotional trauma or loss of the victims.’’

  • NGOZI NWOSU: I was a professional model

    NGOZI NWOSU: I was a professional model

    Ngozi Nwosu is a veteran actress and producer who has made her mark in the industry. In this interview with Yetunde Oladeinde, she goes down memory lane talking about the good old days, inspiration, stage plays and how she started life as a model.

     

    YOU started your career with Yoruba Movies, what was it like at the beginning?

    I never started my career with Yoruba films or movies. People have that impression and I need to correct that. I started with English plays before going to Yoruba productions.

    What was stage production like in those days?

    Stage production is basically a more tedious process. You have a lot of lines to learn and special things to do and learn. Stage is live unlike TV. So, you have people who are very good in both, and those who are only good with TV.

    Let’s do a flashback, tell us about your memories on stage?

    Oh my God! it was great.Going down memory lane, I remember that I played the role of a man in Kurunmi. It was very memorable.

    How did you get in Yoruba productions?

    I got into Yoruba productions through my friend,Madam Africana. She introduced me to Oga Bello: Adebayo Salami and that was how I joined Awada kerikeri. I was also in English stage play and the experience was  great.I was involved in modelling too.

    Let’s talk about your experience as a model. How did you get into modelling?

    That was what I did immediately after Secondary School. I was a professional model. I was with Frank Oshodi and he was my instructor. I did calendar adverts for poultry and companies like Jobifele.

    I was a big time model. It was nice, it was great working with agencies. I was a calendar and runway model.

    Would you say it was interesting because the sector got more funds at that point?

    Yes, there were many shows and activities at that time. However, what we were earning cannot be compared to what models earn now.

    If you have to advise young models today, what would you tell them?

    The only thing I would say is that whatever career you go into, it must be something that you love. Then you have to put everything into it. Of course, it will definitely take time to achieve your goals. The journey of a thousand miles begins in one day.

    You were one of the cast in Living in Bondage and you played your role so well. What does being a part of it mean to you?

    It was a trial thing, then we had the VHS thing. We just tried to see how it will go, they called different people and like they say, the rest is history.

    Fuji House of Commottion is one series many can’t ignore. What was the inspiration?

    It was quite an experience (Laughs).I know for one, that if I find myself in that kind of family,I don’t know what I would do. Polygamy is a No for me, I can’t bear it.But drama is make-believe, you have to merge yourself into it.

    So, I found myself playing the role and I did it very well.At a point, we (the cast) were like a family, even after the production,we still call ourselves.

    What are some of the memorable moments in acting?

    I would say one of my memorable moments was when I traveled to Canada to shoot a movie. There, I noticed that their style of production was really different.

    Another memorable moment for me was when I shot GLO Advert, the experience was awesome, it was done by white guys and their ways was quite different.

    The third memorable experience for me was when we did Jaguar Nana’s Daughter, an Albert Egbe production in Abeokuta.

    It was for stage but done in a studio and nobody knew. We went to Omu-Aran to shoot a Yoruba play and there was no water to drink or have our bath. We trekked many miles for water at a stream that was red. I was drinking Fanta throughout.

    Let’s compare the changes at the beginning and now?

    There has been tremendous changes in the sector. We have grown in terms of production and acting. However, I will say that we are not there yet. The money paid also needs to improve.

    What are some of the changes that you will like to see in future?

    I will like to see proper ways of doing things, proper production process. Some don’t go through the process, like a proper rehearsal and production planning. Gone are the days, when people go for planning before a shoot. Now, you find people roaming from one location to another.

    So, what went wrong in the sector?

    Everyone is in a hurry. What they care about is the monetary aspect.

    What are the other things that occupy your time when you are not working?

    I love reading and try to put one or two things together. I am also working on something,it is in the pipeline. When I am ready, everyone will know about it

    You celebrated your daughters, (twins) recently on their birthday online. Tell us about the joy of motherhood, what do they mean to you?

    Oh my world! Wonderful girls. Motherhood is a lovely experience. I don’t think there is any woman who doesn’t want to experience motherhood. I love them because they are real and adorable. They are my managers.

    Are they also in the industry?

    They are not actors, they are managers. They have other people that they are managing.

    How did you inspire them to go in this direction?

    In life as you are growing up, you choose the path you want to follow. For me, I believe every parent should know what their children want, encourage and support them.

    Who or what inspired you while you were growing up?

    I was inspired by newscasters like Julie Coker, Mike Enahoro. I watched them reading the news. I was also inspired by actresses like Barbara Soky and Aunty Taiwo Ajai Lycett. Mrs Lycett was phenomenal. She is a beautiful soul, inside-out. I give it to her any day.

    The other people I admire in the sector include Joke Silva. She is a stallion. I also admire Clarion Chukwura because she puts her mind into anything she decides to do.

    If she decides to play a role, she does it perfectly. She is a fantastic actor. I also admire Genevieve and Omotola.

    What can government do to make the sector better?

    I know government is trying to do one or two things for the sector. For me, the most important is the principles laid down to make life better. it is a shame that the rate at which we are growing, we do not have a film village. Even the National theater is a shadow of self.

    It is a monumental edifice that should be functional. We have a problem with putting structure down and not having a plan.It is time government does something about this. It is not just about going to shoot in people’s houses.

    What was going on in your mind when you fell ill a few years back?

    What else would be going on in my mind but to get well. Nobody prays to fall sick. All my mind was God get me out of this. In our world, if you don’t work, you don’t eat.

    Did you get support from friends and colleagues?

    Yes, a lot of people supported me. If I begin to mention names, we won’t go today. I use this opportunity to say a big thank you to everyone.

    The list include the former Governor of Lagos State, Babatunde Fashola, Funke Egbemode, Olu Akinlabi, Lillian Amah, Seun Oloketuyi, Dupe Ogunwale and Late Amaka Igwe, who I would forever be grateful to. I never knew, I could be loved.

    How do you relax?

    I read, watch movies and party.

    Who or what do you consider as the greatest influence in your life?

    It will probably be my parents. My mum is a survivor. She single handedly raised the four of us successfully. May her soul rest in peace.

    Did you get your looks from your mum?

    The fair complexion is from my father. My mum is a little on the dark side. I never met my dad. I was still a baby when he died.

    What lessons has life taught you?

    Life has taught me to do my best and leave the rest to God. Never say never.

    What is your definition of style?

    For me, style is what you make out of it. Something you are comfortable with. A lot of our designers are doing great.

    What do you cherish most in your closet?

    My jewelry and then my perfumes. That is a no-go  area. I can actually wear anything.

    Tell us about your favorite travel spot and what you like about the place?

    I actually love Canada and I have visited. It is cool and lovely.

    What advise do you have for Nigerian youths?

    The advice I will give them is that when you want something, work for it. You can’t cry for it alone. Not by killing, maiming or being envious. Rome was not built in a day. I had to sacrifice a lot.

  • Your car, your safety during rainy season

    Your car, your safety during rainy season

    How do you keep your cars in excellent condition and avert breakdowns this rainy season, amid the bad roads, marsh and flood? These were some of the questions Emmanuel Okeke, a University of Benin History graduate-turned -auto refurbishment expert, who is also Managing Director of Armani Autoworks Ltd, fielded during a recent interaction with EMMA ANYA.

    Driving during rainy season?

    Car maintenance has nothing to do with season.  It is something every car owner should do, literally every day. There are some major things one must look out for before putting a car on the road.

    We all know that our roads are virtually not motorable. Therefore, we must ensure we have very good tyres because those are the part that march the ground and prevent accidents, especially during rainy season. Tyres are to a car what legs are to humans. They keep you firm on the ground.

    One should also have good break system. Before you drive out, check under your car to be sure there is no leakage, check that you have enough break oil and confirm that your brake pads are good enough.

    Also, check your wipers to be sure that they wipe your screens very well. When you drive with worn out wipers during the rains, you are more prone to accidents, because you’ll likely have poor vision. When you are faced with such a challenge, the best thing is to park and wait for the rain to subside.

    Again, your lights, including the trafficators and hazard lights, must be in excellent working conditions. With good lighting system, you are sure to see well especially at night. Vehicles behind you will also see you well when it is raining. All these save you from accidents.

    You must also avoid speeding when it is raining because roads get slippery and dangerous.

    Rain and car AC

    Car air conditioner is meant to maintain a particular temperature within a vehicle so that it remains cool. But it also clears your wind shield for good visibility.

    If your car AC is not on when it is raining, the wind shield will not be clear, no matter how good your wiping system is. If you wind down your side glass, the mist will clear but rain water will wet you silly in the car. This forces you to park and wait for the rain to subside, but if you opt to manage, you will be exposing yourself and other drivers to accident.

    There are times a car engine goes off when you run into flood with the AC on. My advice is, no matter how excellent your vehicle engine works; endeavour to put off the AC once you are approaching a flooded area. This prevents the engine from going off and protects your AC fan. Note that when the AC fan is forced to stop rotating, it may break or destroy something that might force you to get stuck in the flood.

    * Heater, AC and poor visibility or mist

    We are not used to heaters here. Many car owners have never turned them on. Heater can do the job of also clearing the mist during the rains like the AC but most times it makes the driver and his passengers very uncomfortable.

    * Why you must wash your car during the rains

    A lot of us hesitate to wash our cars regularly during the rainy season. But it shouldn’t be so. Rather rainy season is the period you should wash your vehicle every day.

    You must realise that because of the acidic nature of rain water, your car body is more prone to rust. So you need to wash it daily. Also during the rains, your car collects more mud or sand. If you fail to clean it every day, you are also inviting rust.

    Your car is like your body

    Your car is like your body, if you treat it well, you will hardly go to the mechanic. If you don’t, the mechanic becomes your friend. Some people say some cars are problematic but I disagree. There is no car that is not good if you treat it like your body. If your vehicle demands oil change, change it. If your car demands petrol you don’t have to wait for the level to be empty before you top it up. If you don’t top it up above half tank, your fuel pump will draw dirt and cause a break down.

    * Better bake your car 

    Baking is a system whereby your car is painted in a regulated spraying booth. The booth is such that you have enough illumination and temperature that regulates itself. It also has water resistance system. If you spray your car in a booth, it comes out looking as if it was just rolled out of a factory. You can drive it immediately because it is dried automatically unlike a conventional spraying.

    Even during the rains, baked cars resist the acidic nature of rain waters and leave it still smothering and shinning because it was painted in a conducive or regulated environment.

    *Keeping your car constantly shinning

    Avoid using salty water to wash your car, because they corrode car colour. But how possible is this since most of our waters are salty.

    When you wash your car with detergent, don’t allow the foam to dry on it. Pour water and wipe it off immediately with pebble free duster.

    You also need to polish or wax your car at least every six months to keep its colour shinning like a new car. You don’t really need an expert to teach you how to polish or wax your vehicle. Simply buy good cotton wool and good wax or car polish and you are good to go. You and I know cotton wools aren’t expensive. Likewise, polish or wax. Some car polish or wax cost just N1, 000. But waxing or polishing is time consuming.

    If you know you are a very busy person; there are experts that can do it for you at moderate cost.

  • Adesuwa ‘Sunshine’ Oronsaye: My Christian faith is my greatest influence

    Adesuwa ‘Sunshine’ Oronsaye: My Christian faith is my greatest influence

    Adesuwa ‘Sunshine’ Oransaye is an actress known with the sobriquet, Princess Ene for her role in the African Magic series’Ajoche’.

    In this interview with YETUNDE OLADEINDE, she talked about how her passion for acting started as a child, inspiration, memorable experience and more.

     

    Tell us about the new things that you are working on?

    I currently have a couple of budding productions, commercials and social campaign projects that I am working on for the next phase of my career.

    However, due to the current Pandemic we have not fully launched to the public. When we do and once the time is right, the efforts made will be justified and you will be the first to know about this.

    I am more of a creative person, so I guess it would be safe to also say that there is always something new to work on.

    How did you get into acting? What was the first role you did?

    Acting has always been a part of me. Something I could call “innate”. I started acting since I was a child by participating in church and school plays which eventually spurred me to study Theatre Arts at the University.

    However, my first professional acting gig in Nollywood was in a ROK movie titled “One Night” where I played the role of a Doctor.

    What were you doing before this?

    Prior to acting, I had a career in the communications and media industry. I worked as Marketing/Events Executive for a radio station.

    I also had a stint with a digital marketing agency before I joined a media training institute, where I served as a Business Development Manager and Training Cordinator.

    While I was working in the corporate world , I had my mind set on acting, so I decided to quit and take on acting full time  as I realised I couldn’t comfortably combine a 9-5 with an acting career. I must say that acting is quite a jealous profession (laughs).

    Tell us about life as an actress? What are some of the movies that you have participated in?

    Life as an actress has been nothing short of amazing. Although it comes with its challenges but it’s been an interesting experience.

    I have participated in a number of movies and series, the most notable being Africa Magic’s “Ajoche” where I played the role of Princess Ene.

    It’s funny how you play major roles in movies, your audience see you as the character even in real life situations (chuckles).

    Sometimes, I am called Princess Ene by most people who still see me in public, especially the likes of those who now say they have become “fans”.

    I get that a lot and I think I’m beginning to get used to it. Sometimes, I have no option but to answer the name.  I have also been in other projects which will soon be released.

     

    Tell us about the other movies that you have participated in?

    Sometimes when asked this question I laugh a lot because I actually lose count in my head or sometimes go blank like in an examination.

    This is because productions are a little more of regular acts to keep tabs. Can I remember all of it? Trust me I may have to think here.

    Anyway, like I said earlier I’ve been featured in a number of movies, released and others yet to be released. Some of which include: Beautiful Monster, How the shooter got shot, My grandfather’s wife, I will have an affair, Two can play at that, to name a few.

    I also got a short role in the acclaimed Living in Bondage (Breaking Free) and Your Excellency.

    What or who inspires the things you do?

    I am a Christian and that has influenced my life greatly. So you can understand who my first inspiration would be.

    I am most inspired by my family, they’re the ones who raised me and constantly motivate and support me to be a better person in life and career.

    They love what I do.. And of course, my friends do as well, those who have grown to like my acting behind the camera. You all have played a major part in this process.

    What are some of the other things that occupy your time?

    When I’m not working I like spending time with family and friends. I also like to be by myself, sometimes as it gives me enough space to harness my creative energy and regenerate. We all need that “moment ” you know. Retreat or Recess time. What I call “time for you.”

    Tell us about the people you admire?

    There are a number of people I admire; these are people who are taking great strides in business, politics, ministry and leadership.

    What are some of the memorable moments in your life and career?

    I have had a lot of memorable moments in my life. From growing up in Delta state, to schooling in Benin-City, to my NYSC days in Imo State and to my professional life in Lagos.

    But none of it compares to the thrill of being on a film set. There’s this feeling of joy I get whenever I’m on set, I know I’m working but work is fun.

    Getting to take on different characters, giving life to them while working with an amazing team is the most memorable part of my job. In the face of challenges I must still say Life is beautiful- let’s make fond memories out of it.

    What were the initial challenges?

    Getting into and sustenance in the industry is quite challenging. The industry is highly competitive and you have to keep a positive mindset if you want to go far.

    As a matter of fact, I’ve felt like quitting most of the time. Everyone does, just like any other profession. It’s in the human nature to feel that way but I’m not going to quit, Not yet. (Smiles).

    What are you looking forward to in the next few years?

    The future is bright. The plan basically is to do as much quality work as I can. Build my production company and live an impactful life.

    One of the essence of living is to have a life of purpose and positive influence. I intend to do just that. I’m an advocate for social justice, peace and development. I dream of a better world as well and hope to be a voice for impact. Tell us about your favorite holiday spot?

    I’m someone who loves to travel. Can I say travelling is one of my hobbies? …(thinking). Picking a favourite spot is a bit of a challenge because I love to explore new locations.

    I do not like to visit a particular destination more than once. The moment I tick it off my list, I move on to the next…

    You can call me a travel explorer and you may just be correct!

    What is your definition of style?

    My definition of style would be “comfort and class” I believe being comfortable is key.

    I’m not the adventurous type when it comes to fashion. If I’m not comfortable in an outfit, if it doesn’t exude class, I may not wear it.

    What are the things that you won’t do in the name of fashion?

    I like to “cover” with less exposure. I would attribute this to my background, personality and more importantly my desire to be comfortable with myself and around people…

    like I said earlier I’m not adventurous when it comes to fashion, I’d rather play it safe but classy.

    Who or what do you consider as the greatest influence in your life?

    My Christian faith. I believe in the golden rule that says “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

    How would you describe Nigerian women in the entertainment sector today?

    The Nigerian Woman is strong, resilient, purposeful and loving. Women surely are making giant strides in the industry and I would love to see an increase in the  number of women in the industry going beyond acting to production and holding key positions of influence.

    What about the awards and recognitions?

    I’m still new in the industry, however, fast rising. So be sure to hear of awards and nominations soon in the industry.

    But I was nominated in the “Fast rising Actor” category in the 2019 edition of The Intellects Award.

     

    What advise do you have for young people post COVID-19 era?

    I appreciate every young person in Nigeria and globally.  For me, being young signifies strength, tenacity and greatness.

    The Pandemic like every other global health challenge will pass. We must have to take out lessons from the experience.

    Personal responsibility for our health going forward, and work out measures for self-improvement, exploring positive alternatives to wealth creation in the coming years, shake up and know that together we will make it through.

    What items do you cherish in your wardrobe?

    For me the items that I cherish most in my wardrobe basically are my dresses and one piece clothing’s. They’re my comfort clothes.

    What types of books do you like to read?

    Motivational books I guess… Books which inspire, lifts my spirit and spur me towards greatness. These are books that basically influence me to be a better person.

  • LILLIAN AFEGBAI: I was naive as Big Brother housemate

    LILLIAN AFEGBAI: I was naive as Big Brother housemate

    Lillian Afegbai is an actress, producer and ex Big Brother Africa housemate. In this interview with Yetunde Oladeinde, she opens up on her experience in the sector, inspiration, turning point as well as running a Lingerie business brand.

     

    WHAT are you working on at the moment?

    Right now, I am working on a lot of projects but considering the pandemic that is happening this year, there is a limit to what we can do. I am working on a couple of movies and some other projects which I am yet to unveil. But pretty soon, everything would come to limelight.

    How has COVID-19 affected some of your plans?

    Though the pandemic has really affected me in terms of the things that I wanted to do. I had my movie premier, private screening for my new film titled, “Double strings’ that was meant for release just before coronavirus started. Everything now is on hold because we couldn’t do all of those. And we obviously cannot do any of that anytime soon. So, we just have to find other ways, other means of releasing it. Also, I was working on a production that I had to hold which is gradually picking up now. Also, my business; my lingerie line was stocked but the sales have been a little slow for a bit, it is picking up now. So, yes, it affected my business and life. But yet, we have to realize that once there is life, there is hope. So, you can only be grateful.

    Do you consider this a time to rest and take a break from work?

    To be honest, I would say that we have had a lot of rest, enough. It was just a long break that wasn’t needed, First week, second week and then third week and more. So, I won’t consider this a time to rest because I have rested enough. Resting for months that I don’t appreciate at all. I am actually a workaholic, I like to work. I am happy when I work

     Tell us about your experience as Big Brother Africa housemate?

    My experience in Big Brother was awesome. That was 2014. That was a long time ago and so many things have happened since then. Then, I was naïve and I was young. I would say that at the time, it was worth it. At the end of the day, everything that you go through in life is a stepping stone to where you are headed.

    So, that was a phase in my life that I really appreciated. It started my journey thus far and helped me to have the foundation required. It was amazing being in the house, but then also it had its ups and downs. You know, Nigerians have this issue routing for ladies. I am glad that is changing now with Big Brother Nigeria considering the fact that Mercy won this year. That was a major challenge that I had then.

    How did participating in the show affect your career?

    I participated in the show in 2014 but before I went to the Big Brother house, I had tendered my resignation letter to Lagos State Internal Revenue. So, when I came out, I knew I wasn’t going back to work. I was going to focus more on my acting, production and everything I had for this next phase in my life. I would say that it didn’t affect my career in anyway. Instead, it helped my career in many ways.

    What inspires the things that you do?

    To be honest, what inspires me is the drive, the drive to achieve my dreams. The drive to achieve my goals in life and to get to a certain point where, I could genuinely give back to people, without limit. This is because I feel like one of my purposes in life is to help people. And to give back to people in any way that I can. So, the fact that I have these goals that I want to achieve in life is my driving force. So, every day when I wake up, I just want to keep working. So, I keep working and becoming a better version of myself.

    What are some of the other things that occupy your time?

    I watch movies, I read and I try to go for courses when I can. Yes, basically those are some of the things that occupy my time. I also try to be a creative mind. Sometimes, I just travel to re-evaluate myself, go back to the drawing board and think about what next.

    What are some of the challenges? Did you feel like quitting at any point?

    To be honest, yes there were times that I felt like quitting. But this was because at some point, my career was stagnant and I felt like I wasn’t doing enough. People underestimated me, they just assumed things that they didn’t really know anything about. They just thought, she is a reality star and that is that. So, I had to work hard to prove myself in the industry. Also, when I came out of big brother’s house, I had depression; it was hard trying to make a name for myself with everything going on, with the backlash and all the internet throws. It was really hard, it was just hard trying to prove yourself to people who don’t really know who you are.

    They just assumed a lot of things and you just have to keep trying, working twice as hard. There were a couple of times that I felt like quitting but I kept telling myself, you are not a quitter.

    You can do whatever it is that you want to do. You can achieve whatever it is that you want to achieve, and so I just get back up, keep pushing and striving. And then I pray to God, at the end of the day, God is my major source of strength. I would say that, HE has really been there for me in my worst moments. HE has actually brought me out of everything I never thought, I could overcome. Of course, there were times, I thought of quitting but I just didn’t let that weigh me down.

    Tell us about the people you admire in the sector?

    To be honest, I admire a lot of people. So, it is hard for me to pick or call names because they are a lot. You don’t want to call names and end up calling everyone. At the end of the day, in the industry now, we have a lot of women doing so many huge things. Look at Mo Abudu, Omoni Oboli, Kate Henshaw, Genevieve, and Funke Akindele. All these people, you find that they keep trying and trying to do great things. So, I admire a lot of people in the industry, young, old and even my friends. These are the people that you see, they have been there, they have been consistent and even working hard to achieve their goals. And they are still going at it and are still achieving it.

    What are some of the changes that you would like to see in the sector?

    I would like to see actors more respected, actors paid well and I would also like to see the crew members, the people behind the camera celebrated more. This is because they put in so much work and feel that they are not celebrated as much as they should. I would also like the government to involve themselves more in the industry because it needs a lot of attention now. Look at the whole coronavirus situation and everyone was stuck on Netflix, movies and everything. I would say that entertainment is the next big thing in the world right now. The movie industry, entertainment, arts and everything. So, having the government invest more in everything in our industry would go a long way in terms of financial stability, revenues for producers and all that. And also quality which I think that we are already doing, people are already taking their time to produce nice movies. So, for as much as I would like to see changes, I would like to say that people are already impacting , they are already making this changes gradually and we can only hope for the best at the end of the day.

    What is your definition of style?

    My definition of style would be whatever you are comfortable with. At the end of the day, the truth is that if you wear something that you are not comfortable with, you lose it. Style is whatever you are comfortable with, but being classy, has a bit of everything, sexy but still comfortable. If you are not comfortable, that is not style. If you are wearing something and you cannot walk properly, then it isn’t it. So, style for me would be simplicity. Here you can be effortlessly simple and still look classy and killing it.

     What are the things that you won’t do in the name of fashion?

    The things I wouldn’t do in the name of fashion would be to outdo myself and be uncomfortable. I would not wear certain things because they are in trend or in vogue if I am not comfortable in them.

    What would you consider as the turning point in your career?

    What I would consider as the turning point in my career was when I won the AMVCA for my movie, my first movie production. For me, that just made me realize that people are always watching and so in life you just have to stand out. That just gave me a certain kind of motivation to just keep working harder. That motivated me to my next film and the next film. It just kept pushing me to just do it, it could work and then my lingerie line just happened. That was a huge motivation for me, which was a turning point in my career. That also made me realise that it is not how far, but how well.

    Who or what do you consider as the greatest influence in your career?

    First of all, it is my family. My mum is a huge influence on my career; Multi Choice, Africa Magic and DSTV all have added to my career in so many ways, that I cannot begin to mention to be honest. I keep telling people that they are a huge part of my success story. And they have added value to me in so many ways. Dr Chukwu Eluka, my friends and everyone has paid their price in influencing my career.

    Tell us about your beauty regimen. What is the secret of looking good?

    I am one person that realised that the minute I stop using a lot of things on my skin, I started having this glow, started bouncing. So, I do more of oils, I scrub my face and go the Spa at least twice a month. I do like my scrubs and do rub a lot of oils on my skin.

    What items do you cherish the most in your wardrobe?

    I cherish my clothes. I have to wear clothes, I love clothes.

    How do you relax?

    I watch movies, I love to go to the beach and just clear my head. And I love to travel and relax.

  • Didi Edet: It is better to make the first move

    Didi Edet: It is better to make the first move

    Didi Edet is a life coach and matchmaker. She is also a statistician with the National Bureau of Statistics, Nexim bank and the Debt Management office. She is passionate about building strong relationships via matchmaking. This passion which started with friends and close allies metamorphosed into a full fledge business which has won her a number of awards and recognitions.

    In this encounter with YETUNDE OLADEINDE, she talked about her passion, inspiration and the business side of matchmaking.

    What inspired you to go into this aspect of life?

    The platform was created to match single individuals above 25 years but with a huge focus on privacy. I did take a couple of courses in a bid to get certified to be more knowledgeable in this area of expertise.

    What is the difference between online dating and using a matchmaking platform?

    A matchmaking platform comes with support that an online service might not be able to provide. The platform works manually too and so you do get to communicate with actual humans and it is a totally different experience. These are people that can give you their perspective on things and not an automated service.

    What expectations do your clients have with meeting other single individuals?

    They do expect the best. Interestingly, some expectations are reasonable and some are so out there which is what we call the search for the unicorn. With the new age and availability of options, people don’t put it as much efforts to get to know a person and at the slightest view of imperfection, the person wants to move on to the next single individual. The process involves us being transparent and clear on giving dating advice to the clients.

    What are some of the challenges doing this?

    I have encountered a lot of challenges. The fact that matchmaking is fairly new to Nigeria in the business sector means there is no blue print or previous marketing plan to follow.

    This was a major challenge, trying to learn how to market and educate the mass about what we do and the process. We are privacy focused and that is why we have to explain to clients that we don’t have pictures posted of individuals. Things are done manually which doesn’t make the process as efficient. But it actually leads to better results and we are highly focused on the results.

    One of the major challenges was getting good staff. It took about a year to find the perfect people, who have the skills and understand the job. All we did was to get them a little bit of training and it’s been a blessing to have people who genuinely care about the clients like I do.

    Another major challenge is explaining to people what we do.  Some people think we give relationship advice which is not what we do.  We focus on the dating aspect of life because this is an area I have been certified in and also as a single individual dating, things in this aspect are fresher to my understanding. We focus on linking individuals together and that’s basically it.

    Why are interested in the manual strategy in your process instead of automated like others?

    For us, being automated like everyone would definitely be less work for us. I would not even need as much staff in an automated service but we found out after moving from automated back to manual that our results were higher. It’s just different when you can communicate with a person that talks to you through the process and tries to understand the difference between what you want and what you need.

    The manual process allows you to be with a friend introducing you to our other friends and rooting for it to work out.

    What are the types of people on the platform?

    We have a huge variety of people from various locations and various status. We have singles that have never been married, divorced, widowed and more. Our client base can be described as the working class, people that may not have a lot of time for social activities. So, what they have done is to outsource a part of their social life to us.

    Do your clients see pictures of people the people they are being matched with before meeting them?

    Our platform is privacy focused so this means privacy is our highest priority.  We don’t circulate or post pictures of members. However, we can exchange pictures of members with the permission of that party. We have had a lot of successful matches with this formula so we know it’s something that works for us.

    Will I have unlimited number of people to meet when I sign up?

    No, you will have a fixed number based on your membership level and this was done to make people take their matches seriously because in a situation where you have unlimited matches, we have seen people abuse that by finding little excuses not to give the person a chance. Usually, this is because they feel there are a million more at their beck and call, so they are not as intentional with their choices.

    Is this strictly online?

    No, we have an office located in the heart of Lekki and it’s open for enquiries but we do find that majority of our client base are busy. So, we are more efficient with the online network and it works faster that way.

    What advice would you give to singles out there?

    I feel everything you want in life can be achieved if we put effort in it.  If you want a job, you get qualifications and make the effort to apply for it.  I feel effort should be applied to dating too as opposed to sitting and hoping for things to magically fall in place,  I feel if you want love,  put the effort to search for it.  We are here to make that an easy process.

    We do not divulge into the relationship aspect which is a bit more broad. We focus on meeting an individual, having a first and second date.

    Why did you go into matchmaking?

    Lagosmatchmaker is a privacy focused matchmaking platform for like-minded individuals and was birthed out of the need for privacy in certain aspects of our lives like dating. A lot of my friends I spoke to wanted to be able to search for a date without leading with who they are.

    In this age of Internet fraud, how can one trust online matchmaking?

    I don’t think there is any worry with internet fraud with us because it’s not strictly an online matching platform. We do have an office located off Admiralty way, Lekki, Lagos where clients can  come in and have a discussion about the process, if they so wish. But we discovered that a lot of people don’t have the time which is why a lot of our work is done online.

    Who qualifies to consult a matchmaker?

    Anyone with a busy schedule can consult a matchmaker. I always say, it’s the same as outsourcing things like cleaning or cooking because you don’t have the time to do those things yourself. The same way matchmaking is a service that helps the busy people who have little or no time to socialize and meet someone at their convenience.

    Why are men shying away from making the first move these days?

    I would not say men are shying away from making the first move. Men for decades have been told they alone could make the first move but in this new era, women are now able to make the first move, so you might find an increase in the number of women searching for a man. Of course, it is new and it’s effective than having to choose a spouse out of just the ones that choose you. These days, you can make a choice rather than choosing from your available options.

    How should a woman react if she loves a man but feels the man should make the first move?

    I would tell that lady to make the move herself because I do believe in communicating what you feel as opposed to being quiet and hoping in some magical way, he should know how you feel about him.

    What are those things that should be put into consideration before going into marriage or a long term relationship?

    I stay on the dating aspect of life not the relationship aspect, this is because I am exploring that aspect myself. Relationships are too broad to try to understand, so I rarely go into actual relationship discussions or advice.

    What are the types of clients you have on the platform?

    We have a huge variety of clients from the never married, divorced, single parents, those that lost their spouse and more.

    In terms of reasons, we do have extremely busy clients that don’t have the time for a social life.  We also have clients who just want the additional help with their dating life. We are the people you outsource your dating life too.

    The minimum age on the platform is 25yrs. We have currently had an increase in the number of older clients that have signed up.  We have a lot of females ages 40 to 55 and males ages 45 to 65. We aim to help everyone find that happiness that comes with companionship.

  • Remi Aboderin: Anthony Joshua not Nigeria’s best

    Remi Aboderin: Anthony Joshua not Nigeria’s best

    Boxing promoter turned administrator Remi Aboderin sat down with TAIWO ALIMI and ADEYINKA AKINTUNDE to talk about how his background stimulated his passion for fisticuffs, Anthony Joshua, present and future of Nigerian boxing.

     

     

    His passion for boxing was fuelled by his father from childhood. He would sit at his feet while watching Muhammad Ali and other legends in the 70s. Watching and studying, he developed an undying love for the sweet science kindled by Ali vs Foreman 1974 Rumble in the Jungle, and Thrilla in Manila Ali vs Joe Frazier (1975) and many others that drew the world’s attention to make boxing the most watched sports in that era.

    Oluwaremilekun Aboderin better known as Remi Aboderin a.k.a ‘Don King of Nigeria’ got hooked and even in adulthood could not wriggle out of it. He returned soon after he had graduated and worked briefly as a journalisat to promoting boxers and boxing shows. He would not let go even when boxing took a plunge no thanks to the all-embracing attention given football by those in sport authority. He kept on digging and today, Aboderin, sits atop the administrative office of Nigerian Boxing Board of Control (NBB of C) as the general secretary and the West African Boxing Union, (WABU) as president.

    “My love for boxing started from childhood. Then, boxing was the number sport in the world. Your parent must not find you playing football, but when you come home crying beaten by your age-mate from outside, your parents would ask you to go back. They want you to be tough.

    “We had NTA Sports then on Saturdays, and what they showed most was boxing. My father was a lover of boxing and he always invited me to watch with him. I was also opportune to watch the “Rumble in the Jungle” between Muhammad Ali and George Foreman. That was where the love began.”

    In Nigeria, he was also drawn to boxing through the exploit of Hogan Kid Bassey, Obisia Nwankpa, Dele Jonathan, Joe ‘Atomic Bomb’ Lasisi that made the sport glorious in the 70s and 80s.

    “Though, there was Emmanuel Okala and many great footballers then, boxing no doubt, was the king of sports.

    “Boxing was the sport our former President, Nnamdi Azikiwe was involved in. It is a show of your manliness that got the ladies flocking around you.”

    Though, he did not get to wear gloves, he built up a deportment and carriage akin to a boxer. “My friends know I don’t talk much, but if it is fight, let us fight. I don’t look for trouble, but when trouble breaks out, I stay with it.

    “I grew up in tough environments; Ajegunle and Agege and so boxing was the in-thing for us.”

    At a point, he drifted away from boxing, but the bond between them proved too strong.

    “Whatever God has destined for you, you would fulfil it. I was trained as a journalist and I worked in newspaper houses. In 1999 I saw a boxing show on TV. It was shabbily arranged, and I thought I could do better that that. I thought I could go into boxing promotion. I asked around, and I was told that there was the NBB of C, in charge of boxing. I was taken to late Sir Walter Batowei, a journalist with FRCN and general secretary of NBB of C. He later became vice president under the presidency of Chief Godwin Kanu.  I got registered in 1999, and my first pro motion was in 2000.”

    Like a true fighter, Aboderin did not let the knockdown occasioned by lull in boxing dampen his courage.  “If you are into something, you will keep forging ahead whether good or bad. I will not say I was encouraged or discouraged, I just forge ahead. A boxer will always tell you that he will defeat somebody, even if he is not sure of victory. It is in the blood.

    “Boxing is in so many facets. It is about a promoter having one or two boxers that are good and you want to promote them. If you have a show and your boxer is good and he wins, even if you do not get money there, your boxer can be invited from outside the country to box. You just have to keep promoting your boxers. A promoter must have boxers on his bill. The most important thing is putting your boxer in the forefront and that is what I did. I just keep pushing.”

    An incurable optimist- the promoter turned administrator- is certain Nigeria is blessed with natural and good boxers. He boldly expressed that good days are back for Nigerian boxing.  “Right now, GOtv is doing wonderful things for boxing in Nigeria.”

    Aboderin revealed that GOtv has been able to expose and change the lives of established and many up and coming boxers. “Aside from recognized boxers, GOtv has done about five GOtv boxing series every year. About 80 boxers have been discovered, and 25 potential champions picked.

    “Most of the boxers making waves are GOtv products. It has helped to discover them but they also need regular bouts and endorsements to feed their families.

    “I can say aloud that boxing is back, thanks to GOtv and Flykite. If not for COVID-19, we would have had four boxing shows between April and July. If in a year, we can have about four to five shows staged by other promoters to add to GOtv’s five in a year that would be enough. For your information, two international fights organized by GOtv would have happened but COVID-19 pandemic disrupting it.”

    He said the cable network provider has also lifted the social and economic status of boxers.

    “Taiwo ‘Esepo’ Agbaje recently talked about how he bought some okadas (commercial motorcycles) and tricycles (keke) after winning N1million to N2million at ‘GOtv Boxing Night. Someone that could hardly feed himself now has a business bringing steady income to help himself and his family. This is due to the intervention of GOtv.

    “If the tempo had continued, he would have had some fights, maybe commonwealth title, and make good money for himself. His coaches and manager would make someth8ing too.”

    Aboderin, who is also big on entertainment, said all hands must be on deck to create more good boxers while hinting that boxing is capable of taking crime out of the youths and creating more jobs.

    “Beyond money, the right policy must be put in place. This is what will drive sponsorship and money. What do I mean by enabling environment? Nigeria government need to make policy statement that will make corporate bodies know that they should invest in Nigerian sports.”

    “It is an error to say that the best of our boxers are abroad, they are here in Nigeria and if they get conducive environment they can be greater.”

    He was bold to add that Nigeria has better heavyweight boxers than world heavyweight champion Anthony Joshua (AJ).

    “We see a lot of Nigerian boxers doing well abroad. The name on everybody’s lips today is Anthony Joshua. What happens to our boxers here? Is it that they cannot make it unless they go out?

    “It is unfortunate that we keep talking about AJ. We have better boxers right here in Nigeria. We have a boxer that was actually taken out after the Olympics; Efe Ajagba. He is one of the best heavyweight fighters in the industry now and he was trained here. He has done 13 professional fights so far and has won nine by TKO.

    “Tyson Fury, AJ’s next opponent is already talking about Ajagba. We have the materials, what we do not have is the enabling environment. For Fury to call Ajagba out means that he is good.

    “How do we get endorsements when companies are not endorsing regular fights? A company in Nigeria went to London to endorse AJ, who never for once said he wants to represent Nigeria. There is the claim that he came to Nigeria and he was driven back, that never happened. He is a British-born Nigerian boxer.”

    He also frowned at the number of boxing sanctioning bodies explaining  that they retard progress. “Why boxing also left the number one sports position in the world, is because of the too many sanctioning bodies. In football, we have FIFA alone coming with the sledge hammer, but in boxing, we have the WBC, WBF, WBA, WBO, IBF and others.

    “But thank God for what is happening now because boxing is the second most loved sport in the world. Four major bodies have been picked now to sanction boxing. That is WBA, WBC, IBF, and WBO. If this has been done years back, boxing would have been at par with football.”

    Aboderin comes from one of the largest families in Ibadan, and late Chief Olu Aboderin, owner of Punch Newspapers is uncle to his father. He is a Chelsea fan and enjoys watching football too.

    TKO WITH ABODERIN

    ON ANTHONY JOSHUA

    AJ is not a Nigerian boxer. It is unfortunate that our leaders go after finished product, and neglect raw material. The westerners see the raw talent and they come here to pick them. Samuel Peters was in Nigeria he went to the Olympics and he was discovered and picked, he went to America and became a world beater.

    IF NOT BOXING ADMINISTRATOR…

    I would have been a journalist or maybe a policeman. I have read a lot of crime books and wanted to be a crime buster. Most of my guys in the Police force now are in top positions; maybe I would have become a Police Commissioner by now.

    ALI OR TYSON

    I would have said Tyson because he comes with all the power of George Foreman, but Ali will any day go the distance as much as 15 rounds with Tyson. I love Tyson, but Ali was the greatest. I go for Ali

    JOSHUA VS FURY VS WILDER

    Boxing these days is more of entertainment. It is not as brutal as it used to be. I don’t see AJ not advancing well. Anytime from now, I see him fighting Tyson Fury or Deontay Wilder. I prefer he fights Wilder, who has not fought man big names. AJ has fought Joseph Parker, Wladimir Klitschko, and other big names. If AJ meets Deontey, I believe that he will win.

    ON NBB OF C

    If there is a rift between the promoter and boxer, they come to us. We look at the contract signed by a boxer and if the boxer tries to play a fast one on the promoter by going to another person that can pay more, we ask him to honour the signed contract, and if he refuses, he can be sanctioned. That is the role we play. We safeguard the promoters’ money for the boxer.

    BOXING & JOB CREATION  

    Boxing can create jobs for over four million people in Nigeria. In Lagos alone, on my list I have about 200 boxers, and no matter how bad, 40 will be good boxers. In Ibadan, they will be up to 200. A boxer needs at least four people for a bout; coaches, physician and manager.

    TO BE A GOOD BOXER 

    It’s easy to be a boxer, and in actual fact anybody can be a boxer all you need is the interest, and as long as you are medically fit you will come with your coach to us (NBB of C). You will be issued a license you will then put on gloves get into the ring and either gets beaten or you beat your opponent, either win or lose you will be referred to as a “Champ” all boxers are champs.

    But to be a good amateur boxer you must train hard and win most of your fights and thus get an opportunity to represent the country at international meets then you are referred to as a good amateur boxer. But to be a good pro boxer you must train very hard, keep your body in tremendous physical condition, spend majority of your youths life in the boxing gym by cutting out unnecessary excesses, as explained by Muhammad Ali, the actual boxing is done in the gym (training), what people pay to come and watch on bouts days is the entertainment aspect of the game.

    HOBBIES & PHILOSOPHY

    I just finished reading Segun Adeniyi’s book on late Nigeria president, Umaru Yar’Adua. When I was younger I used to finish a book in one and a half days. I read all the Hardly Chase, Nick Carter and Harold Robbins series. I believe that everything in life has been ordained by God. I believe so much in God. God is in charge of every one’s life.

    FASHION & STYLE 

    I love to dress simply. When I am travelling, I wear knickers, polo shirt and slippers, due to the stress of checking in. However on big occasions such as boxing convention abroad I will wear my agbada (Yoruba flowing robe), and the westerners usually notice me and scramble to take pictures with me. Aside from that, I go with whatever is trending.

  • Lillian Amah: I combined acting with my day job

    Lillian Amah: I combined acting with my day job

    Lillian Amah is a Nollywood actress and producer. In this interview with YETUNDE OLADEINDE, she opens up on life as an actress, her very first role and producing a new movie titled, “My Grandfather’s wife.

    Tell us about the new things that you are working on at the moment?

    The COVID-19 pandemic has considerably slowed down work in the entertainment industry but there are a few things that I am working on: The first is that I produced a new movie ‘My Grandfather’s Wife’ staring Prince Jide Kosoko, Uche Nwaefule, Chris Okagbue, Baaj Adebule, Adesuwa Oronsaye, Dan Chris Ebie and Lillian Amah. It was directed by Ben Chiadika and should be released soon.

    Secondly, I am starring in a new star studded TV Series titled ‘Oasis; The Enemy Within’ produced by the talented Producer Ariyike Oladipo and directed by the dynamic duo of Pat Oghre Imoibhio and Kabat Esosa Egbon. Oasis also stars Zack Orji, Tony Umez, Bimbo Akintola, Barbara Aduba, James Jibunma, Dan Chris and a host of others.

    In addition, I also had a small role in a movie with working title ‘Misconceptions’ which is still in postproduction and should hopefully be released later this year. Finally, I am Consulting Producer of the annual Wole Soyinka International Cultural Exchange Project organized by Zmirage Multimedia Ltd.

    The annual event which usually runs from July 12th to 15th is in its 11th year. This year’s event WS86 will be hosted digitally due to the Pandemic. The details for this would be coming soon.

    What was your first role and what was the experience like?

    My very first role was as Alero in RMD’s Out of Bounds. The movie was released in 1997. It was a beautiful but challenging experience seeing as it was my first time acting in front of the camera opposite huge stars like Richard Mofe Damijo, Aunty Racheal Oniga, late Uncle Steve Rhodes and the super talented youngster Bimbo Akintola.

    What were you doing before acting?

    Before acting, I was working in the private sector and continued doing so till 2005 when I left banking to set up my production company.

    Tell us about some of the movies that you have participated in?

    In the 24 years since I featured in Out of Bounds, I have acted in more movies and TV Series than I can readily remember. This includes films like: She Devil, Sweet Revenge, Hit and Run, Jungle Ride, The Triangle, Four Fathers, Deep Ends, After the I Do’s, Wife Hunter and Runs.

    In addition, I have participated in TV Series like Cyberia, The Maze, The Valley Between, The Head of State, Doctors Quarters,

    Rough Edges, Inheritance, Bridges, Husbands and Wives, Hush, Tinsel and Deceptive Measures.

    What inspires you as an actress?

    As an actress, I am inspired by the desire to entertain while passing across serious messages. I am inspired working on messages that can impact positively on people.

    If you could change something in the sector, what would it be?

    If I can change anything about the entertainment sector, it would first be infrastructure. Film makers need purpose-built film studios in order to improve on the quality of their output. The industry also needs accurate records. Records will help make the industry more credible and credit worthy both of which will help attract investors and investment.

    What are some of the memorable moments in your life and career?

    I would say that the memorable moments in my life and career have been many but a couple of the best include winning two awards for my role in Out of Bounds as well as the Reel awards best new actress 1998 and Thema Awards best upcoming actress 1998.

    Another memorable experience for me was landing the roles of The Dean in Doctors Quarters, Kaneng in Tinsel and Nori in Hush.

    What were the initial challenges in the sector. Did you feel like quitting at any point?

    Some of the challenges I encountered include the fact that I had a 9-5 day job. So, I didn’t have a lot of time to spare for acting. There was also the challenge of not having an agent or manager, so I had to seek acting jobs on my own or rely on producers calling me because they had seen me in something else.

    What are the other things that occupy your time?

    I am a writer with two published fiction books titled ‘Echoes of a Heartbeat’ and ‘Dreams of Yesterday’. I am working on my third book tentatively, titled ‘The Things We Do to Each Other’. So writing is the other thing I do. I am also working on a new business which I will soon unveil.

    Tell us about the people you admire?

    I admire people for different reasons. This include Edith Jayne Azuh now Mrs Edith Emma Ayalogu for her deep talent as an actress, Former Governor of Lagos State Mr. Akinwunmi Ambode for his kindness and humane disposition, Late Thomas Sankara of Burkina Faso for his integrity, former US President Barack Obama for his oratory and gentlemanliness and Queen Elizabeth of The United Kingdom for always being a lady. There are some others but let me stop here.

    Who or what do you consider as the greatest influence in your life?

    My parents, late Chief Pius Stanley Amah and late Mrs. Elizabeth Ezidi Amah. They are my greatest influence and my biggest role models.

    What is your definition of style?

    Style for me is looking good in comfort.

    What are the things that you won’t do in the name of fashion?

    I won’t look indecent, won’t wear anything that makes me uncomfortable and won’t expose private parts of my body.

    What type of books do you read?

    I read any and everything. The list includes biographies, romantic fiction, historical novels, motivational books, legal fiction, horror, poetry and drama.

    How would you describe Nigerian women in the entertainment sector today?

    Nigerian women in the entertainment sector today are like Nigerian women in any other sector, a kaleidoscope of colors. They are talented, hardworking, innovative, creative, intelligent and more often than not, willing to walk their talk.

    What is the secret of looking good? Please tell us about your beauty regimen?

    I believe beauty comes from within, so I try as much as possible to be happy and at peace with everyone. In addition, I start my day with a slice or two of lemon in a mug of hot water. These days, I take a 6-8km brisk walk very early every morning between 6am and 7.30am. I also eat sparingly with intermittent fasting occasionally. I only wear make-up when absolutely necessary and I dress age appropriately as much as possible.

    What plans do you have for the next few years?

    Man proposes but life happens so I try to live for the moment these days and not make plans that may not come to pass. I want to be the best I can be in my chosen career and as a human being. To live a long, healthy and happy life in the company of my loved ones and good friends.

    Do you have people you are mentoring. How has mentoring helped you personally?

    I have loads of people I am mentoring….male and female. Mentoring is a two way street. I learn as much as I teach. I love my mentees and it’s great to get into the minds of young people and try to, in some small way, help them navigate the whirlpool of life. So mentoring helps me grow as a person and teaches me patience more than anything else.

    Tell us about your favorite travel destination and what you like about the place?

    I have been to quite a few countries in Africa, Europe and North America. I love different things about different places, so I really don’t have a favorite travel destination yet. There are still a few places I’d like to visit but I find water very soothing. So, anywhere I travel to or intend to travel to and discover that they have good beaches, would definitely be a good destination for me.

    How would you assess Nigerian designers today?

    Nigerian designers are very talented; they are immensely creative and can stand tall anywhere in the world. I have seen amazing pieces designed by Nigerians, so I rate them top when it comes to creativity.

    If you have to advise young people who want to go into the sector, what will you tell them?

    Young people intending to go into the fashion industry should make sure they have what it takes to survive and make an impact. This includes talent, creativity, grit and staying power. The fashion Industry just like entertainment is tough. Talent abounds in that space so you must be prepared to bring on your ‘A’ game, be ready to take criticism and accept rejection without breaking down. It’s a tough field, so you must be tough to survive and be patient to excel.

    Rape is very common in the society today, what advise do you have for Nigerian men?

    Rape is a heinous crime which should be abhorrent to every decent human being. My advice for Nigerian men is to treat every female the way you would want to see your daughter, sister, mother or wife treated. Most Nigerian men are decent human beings and it’s sad that a few sub-humans are giving a bad name to them all. But, we need to quickly fish out the rotten eggs, so decent men can live normal lives. Final advice is for men to be sensitive and to pay attention.  It’s not okay to laugh or joke about rape. It’s nothing to joke about. It’s also not okay to cover up a buddy who you know is a rapist. He needs to be ousted. That girl or woman who gets raped is someone’s daughter, sister, wife or mother. She could be yours, so don’t joke about it, don’t do it and don’t condone it!

  • ‘We have Sanwo-Olu’s backing to reform LAWMA’

    ‘We have Sanwo-Olu’s backing to reform LAWMA’

    The Lagos State Waste Management Agency (LAWMA) has been under spotlights lately following protests by highway sweepers accusing it of inhuman treatment. In an interaction with journalists during the week in Lagos, the acting MD/CEO, Mr. Ibrahim Odumboni, offers official clarifications on the issues at stake. The Nation was there. Excerpts: 

    Not many knew you until the recent reports of protest against LAWMA by some highway sweepers claiming to be owed arrears of salaries.

    What is your background?

    To answer your question directly, my training was in financial services management. I attended institutions both in Nigeria and the United Kingdom. Before I was appointed as acting Managing Director last month by Mr. Governor, I was serving as the Executive Director of the Lagos State Waste Management Authority (LAWMA). Before then, I had worked with some of the top financial institutions in the U.K including Lloyds Banking Group, HSBC and till date, I continue to cherish those exposures because they provided me a platform to broaden and deepen my hands-on experience at the managerial level. For instance, between 2014 and 2015, the team I led at Halifax Bank was able to grow its baseline revenue performance and over-double that of the preceding year and sustained it. And between 2016 and 2017 came another opportunity to help reform wealth management team synergies with retail banking outlets across the entire West of England & Wales in Lloyds Community Bank & Halifax Community Bank. For me, those experiences were unique because I believe they prepared one for greater responsibility in life.

    There were reports in the media, particularly the social media, of protests by some sweepers that they were being owed six-month arrear of salaries. What really is the situation?

    That is not entirely true. Let us just dismiss that as fake news or exaggerated story. LAWMA was not owing the highway sweepers and supervisors per se. Our operation is such that we delineate the twenty councils and thirty-seven development areas in Lagos into routes. These routes are in turn contracted out to mangers or contractors if you like. They are the ones who hire the sweepers and the supervisors directly. Our own role is to pay them and carry out oversight to ensure services we pay for are rendered. In this particular instance, what happened was that reports reaching us indicated that the contractors were not meeting their obligations to those they hired.

    Aside that, at our end, we discovered that the bills being submitted by the contractors were shooting up as the months rolled by. I think Mr. Governor was not happy with the situation. I was asked to take over in May. By the time I took over, only two months were being owed the contractors contrary to the stories being peddled around that the government was owing six months or so. As soon as I assumed office, Mr. Governor came to our aid and approved money to clear one of the months pending. We need to appreciate that government operates a budget. So, if specific amount was earmarked to pay salaries for a period of time and it turned out that the figures were unduly overshot, it distorts the budgeting process and creates cash flow problems.

    As someone who is committed to judicious use of taxpayers money, Mr. Governor wanted to get to the root of the problem. He wanted to know why the wage bills shot up, to the point that LAWMA was having difficulties offsetting the bills submitted by the highway managers.

    But some of the contractors are alleging that since you assumed office, you have mounted a witch-hunt against them.

    That is pure blackmail. Of course, upon my assumption of duties, I knew there was no way we could sustain the situation on ground. As a popular saying goes, it is unreasonable to keep doing things the old way and expect different outcome. You have to understand that Mr. Governor is by training and experience a financial guru. He approved that we carried out a forensic audit, to establish the integrity of the figures being claimed by the contractors. That is the only way we can arrive at something that is sustainable on a monthly basis. Of course, the audit carried out revealed a lot of things. We found out that a good number of the contractors were involved in sharp practices by padding up their bills with ghost sweepers and supervisors. Worse still, they were underpaying them. Some contractors were paying the hardworking sweepers N5000, N12000, N15000, N18500 monthly whilst the state approves N25000 for each sweeper and N40000 for supervisor. That has vindicated Mr. Governor. So, our task is to ensure that an end is put to such misconduct and ensure more judicious utilization of scarce resources.

    So, as you can see, it is those who were benefitting from the malpractices that went about sponsoring stories against us in the media to say they were being witch-hunted. They even went to the ridiculous extent of renting crowd to go and lay siege to the Government House in Marina with a view to blackmailing Mr. Governor to stop the audit.

    I must commend the auditors for doing a thorough job.

    As a matter of fact, when the auditors got to Ikorodu, they found in many areas that sweepers actually working were less than two-third of the those a particular contractor was making claims for monthly. In one particular location, the contractor had to go and hire people and quickly dress up them in LAWMA aprons to make them look like sweepers. But the secret was revealed when the phone numbers put under their names were found to be either non-existent or duplicated. In one case, when the phones assigned to four different persons were dialed for verification, they were found to be ringing in the pocket of one individual. That is the sort of malpractices auditors discovered.

    What the auditors also found are cases of hijack of routes with the use of thugs by some elements from those duly assigned by LAWMA. They carried their impunity to such a ridiculous level. It was like a jungle warfare where survival was for the most powerful or the highest number of thugs. We are resolved to put an end to such unwholesome practices.

    Overall, I think every right-thinking person knows that Mr. Governor means well by introducing a number of measures. In principle, the highway jobs are meant to be an inclusive programme for poor widows and other unskilled folks so that they too can earn an income. What what going into the private pockets of the unscrupulous contractors would have covered more widows and youths if honestly applied. So, those who have been pocketing money meant to engage the widows and empower those without skills should be seen as public enemy.

    As an agency committed to meeting the vision of Mr. Governor for a more hygienic condition in Lagos, we will not be distracted by such campaign of lies and blackmail. Rather, we will focus on doing our job. Some of us are guided by our conscience and will never do anything that conflicts with our high moral values.

    One of your most vocal critics has been a contractor named Mrs. Wuraola Williams (alias Iron Lady) who incidentally is known to be the biggest LAWMA contractor with her control of about ten percent of the over 600 routes in Lagos. She pointedly accused you of witch-hunting her for political reasons. In a press conference last week, she claimed innocence of the charges of padding wage-bill. Your reaction?

    Well, it is beneath me to start exchanging words with Madam Wuraola Williams in the public.   With due respect to her, she is only one of the several highway managers engaged by LAWMA. There is nothing personal about the audit LAWMA carried out. It was to establish the integrity of bills LAWMA was paying. We are comforted that the audit has been able to establish some basic facts which formed the basis for some actions we have since taken to ensure that we get value for taxpayers’ money.

    By the way, it might interest you to hear that one of the young men hired to publish false and wicked stories against what we are doing has since come forward to apologize. I am talking of the guy who was said to be an asthmatic patient. He was not only induced to post videos on the social media maligning me, he went as far as granting interview to a newspaper to cast us in bad lights.

    God Knows I don’t know him from Adams. I was then a little surprised few days ago when my secretary announced that this same young man was in our office and wanted to see me. I did not hesitate before telling the secretary to allow him access. Apparently, his conscience had pricked him for all he was made to do against me. He was one of those who had said LAWMA was owing backlog of salaries. He came to confess that he was engaged by one of the contractors to lie against me, in order to intimidate and blackmail me into doing their bidding.

    He said he realized that it was not even fair to blame me for the two months they were truly being owed since I only just assumed duties in May.

    As a Muslim, I told him right there that I bore no grudge against him and had forgiven him for every thing. At the end of our conversation, I only invited him to join us to make LAWMA work better in order to justify the confidence reposed in us by Mr. Governor and, by extension, serve Lagos taxpayers who fulfill their civic obligations to the government.

    In a recent statement, your agency said you were going to change the uniform worn by sweepers and their supervisors. Don’t you think that is wasteful?

    Not at all. As a matter of fact, that is only one of the series of reforms we are planning to implement to reposition LAWMA for better service delivery. When LAWMA started, the uniform was green overall. In my own view, I consider the LAWMA orange colour overall donated to us over the years by Sterling Bank Plc the most appropriate for the sweepers in all weather conditions. We believe the short sleeve uniform now abolished is less appropriate most especially for health reasons as it doesn’t keep them warm.

    Also, we want to end a situation whereby the LAWMA apron is abused by miscreants or unauthorized persons who wear them to carry out illegalities.

    Part of the reforms we are introducing is to ensure that henceforth, the wearer will have their names embroidered on the uniform for easy identification. This will help ensure more discipline. Members of the public are encouraged to report anyone found to be engaging in misconduct to our hotlines for investigation and possible sanction.

    That is part of the new culture we are seeking to bring on board towards achieving the target given to us by Mr. Governor.

    To address some of the anomalies discovered through the forensic audit, we have decided to introduce biometrics to ensure the incidence of ghost workers is effectively a thing of the past.

    Your new agenda?

    With the support of Mr. Governor, we will ensure that the impact of LAWMA is also felt in other equally critical sectors like the management of marine waste, ensuring better sanitation in our markets, public transportation, clearing of silt and disuse tyres from our roads.

    LAWMA was not set up by the government only to oversee highway sweepers as being projected lately. Our core mandate also extends to the sectors I just mentioned. We are reviewing the current operations architecture to ensure that these critical areas receive equal attention to achieve Mr. Governor’s vision of a more robust and sustainable environment for Lagos.

  • APC crisis about struggle for party structure – Bulama

    APC crisis about struggle for party structure – Bulama

    Despite losing his plum seat on Thursday, the immediate past National Secretary of the All Progressives Congress (APC), Waziri Bulama, is optimistic that the party will not break up. He spoke with YUSUF ALLI, Managing Editor, Northern Operation and selected journalists recently.

    Can you see any hope as your party is currently enmeshed in crises?

    The crisis within APC causes no existential threat to the party. The APC at the moment is united and working together as a family. APC in terms of size has 16 million registered members. We have 14 organs of the party from the polling unit committee to the National Convention. All the 16 million members of the party, those elected and those not elected, stakeholders, all of these, I can tell you authoritatively answer the name APC. Their identity is APC.

    Secondly, all these 16 million people, from the ordinary card-carrying members to the highest elected – including senators, House of Representative members, House of Assembly members, chairmen and all elected and non-elected members of the party are all 100 per cent united under the leadership of President Muhammadu Buhari. This is the foundation I want to lay for you to understand whether there is an existential threat, division, crack or breakup. None of such threat exists in our party.

    Going forward, I want to also make you understand the context within which we were managing the party. A political party is an association of people, groups and communities who have all come together in line with the constitution of Nigeria to pursue a common political goal. The objectives of a political party are many but key among them is the pathway towards getting ticket to contest for elections. But there are other functions of a political party like educating Nigerians on good programmes and policies to choose and elect people to implement the programmes in government. There are issues like ideological ones which members have to fashion out, like how they should behave in the party. This context is necessary for you to understand the crisis. I can go ahead to explain how the party operates and why there was so much negative noise and bickering. But there is no threat of crack or breakup within the APC; we are all united.

    How would you then explain all the bickering in the party?

    Yes, that can also be understood if I explain the context within which these things happened and why we were all united and why we were all loyal to the leadership of the party.

    This is as a result of many years of dormancy in the administration of the party. The party’s bureaucracy has not been working effectively to respond to the day-to-day challenges and demands of members…and then the problem of communication among members, coordination among members. Not all these things were happening because largely at the core of the party, the office of the National Secretary had largely been dormant; it was not working.

    The office of the National Secretary had been vacant for almost a year and a half. The National Secretary is supposed to run the day-to-day administration of the party, trigger activities in all 14 organs of the party, coordinate and ensure that the machinery and engine room of the party is working. That office had been dormant hence there were pent-up expectations that even rose up to the point of frustration. That was why, for instance, some agitated and called for the National Executive Council (NEC) meeting of the party. The NEC is the policy authority organ of the party. However, everyday policy implementation is in the NWC.

    However, the party has 14 organs from the polling unit committee to the national convention. But, you see, in the last two years all these organs were not activated. People talk about NEC, what about the Zonal Executive Committee (ZEC), the State Executive Committee (SEC), Local Government Executive committee (LEC)  the Ward Executive Committee (WEC). All of them have not been meeting, they have not been discussing party issues, they have not been discussing community and national issues, they have not been sending reports to the leadership for evaluation, to influence policies or to assure members and so on.

    Isn’t something fundamentally wrong?

    What I am trying to say is that it is just like other parties, culture and institution of party have not been nurtured sufficiently. Therefore, it is only now, with the instruction of President Muhammadu Buhari that we should go ahead and institutionalize the party. It was with my arrival as the administrative head of the party that we activated and brought back to life the processes that will trigger actions in all organs of the party, to fill these communication gaps among members and reduce mistrust, suspicion and other concerns of party members. This is the context within which we operated; this is what led to the situation.

    It is often said the rope tying the party’s symbol of a broom is President Muhammadu Buhari and once his administration ends and he leaves, the broom will scatter. Secondly, you talked about the organs of the party, how come that since its inception almost two years ago, you do not have a BoT in place? These organs could have handled some of the issues. Is there any move to bring life to these organs?

    There is no doubt that President Buhari is admired personally and respected by all members of the APC as well as Nigerians who have voted him twice. He enjoys not only the loyalty and support of our members, he is a binding force which I earlier told you is a rallying factor. Majority of our members adore and respect him. Fundamentally, let me say that all the members of this party and all the people who are following Buhari follow him because of what he symbolizes. They follow him because of the values he upholds and what he stands for.  Buhari has been known to be a man of integrity. He is a man who believes in the rule of law, transparency and accountability.

    All his political life, since 2002, has been focused on advocating free and fair elections and the right of Nigerians to choose leaders they want and to ensure that only policies that affect them are implemented in government.  He has been pushing for transparency and accountability, which are his focus. Now all our leaders in the party are committed to this cause.

    If you remember, this merger as a result of which the APC was born, was formed by radical elements of the Nigerian political elite. The entire political life of the South West has always been populist politics; politics focused on the need to address the need of the majority of the people in education, health and so on. This has been the case since the days of Chief Obafemi Awolowo up until now. They have always hated imposition and political dictatorship. These elements came and met Buhari’s background that is focused on ensuring that the masses vote and their votes count. These radical tendencies with similar commitment brought others to form the APC.

    Why I have gone far to explain this is that Buhari as a person is very influential and very strong and clearly, he is the rope that is tying this broom. But the principles, background and the pedigree our leaders brought to this party are what sustain APC and would carry us forward. Even if Buhari goes, and already he has put one of his legs outside by saying, he is not going to run or influence 2023…so already, Buhari’s position is clear.

    There is no fundamental problem in the party but there is so much noise and discontentment because of the non-working of this engine room. Now, the engine room has roared back to life; we are communicating, contacting, consulting on how to bring about cohesion and unity in the party.

    Are you saying the crisis in APC is as a result of ambition or the lack of coordination of the organs?

    This is what is propelling some segments of the party struggling to take control of the party because some elements within the Nigerian political elite see the political party only within the limited scope as a special purpose vehicle for elections; thinking that if they seize control of the party and without Buhari, they can steer the party in one direction or the other. And this, actually and truly is one of the philosophical and political issues and tensions we are facing in the party. There is no doubt about that. But certainly, the party can withstand this.

    Though, I am a senior stakeholder in APC, I can say with all sense of modesty, that I am an insider in this APC project. I was strategically involved in all stages that conceived the idea of merger, managed the crisis of merger, managed the birth of APC, participated in everything and my last assignment, I was appointed by the President as deputy director-general of the presidential campaign. I ran the campaign with Rotimi Amaechi, Olorunnimbe Mamora and the rest. I am not only an insider, I am also a leader in this movement. Now, by choice, I decided to wait for and focus on being the chief civil servant of the party.

    But having made that choice, the bureaucracy of the party is supposed to be neutral, apolitical within the context of the APC and account to the 16 million members of the party as well as groups within the party. To that extent, I was not even supposed to make comments on interest or anything about the dynamics in the party.

    The engine room of the APC is the secretariat that I headed until Thursday. There are various people and groups in the party with different needs and aspirations. There are some who want power, there are people who only want empowerment, there are those who want influence, employment, some want respect and acknowledgement. The interests in a party are very diverse and varied. Before last week or the last couple of days, before I took charge, the heart of the party was not working. It was not servicing the party.

    What are the issues within the party? Issues of meeting, participation, membership, membership data, membership contributions, membership activities and other reports from the various organs of the party to feed the leadership? For instance, the constitution says that the NEC of the party should meet every three months; they have not been meeting. What is responsible for that? The reason is neither Buhari nor Oshiomhole nor anybody. The circumstances in which we found ourselves led to that.

    How about court cases that almost led to the collapse of APC?

    The court cases were triggered by some of these interests which are political, some personal. For instance, there is the challenge of political ambition. Someone thinks that if he takes over the party, he can use it for this purpose or that – to secure election in the local government, state, or the national level and use it to his own advantage. This can trigger agitation within the party. And this can make people to mobilize, it can lead to demonstration, they may even go to court or release information to the media direct. All these interests, some of which are political, economic and even personal, are the things that drive agitation and conflict within the party. But the party’s constitution has already provided for conflict resolution.

    For me, a party should function like any well-established institution. When you say institution, I mean like the police and army which are institutions. The federal civil service with head of service is also an institution. The Nigerian government with the SGF is an institution. An institution is an organization that has systems and processes that are known; there is no place for self-help, impunity, self and reckless behaviour. We have not taken enough steps to make sure that political parties are institutions except for about six months ago when President Muhammadu Buhari in addressing Oshiomhole and APC governors, as if he knew, said please go and institutionalize this party because he wanted this party to become a much institutionalized institution that can stand the test of time. Even if Buhari is not there, if the founding fathers are not there,  even if Asiwaju is not there, even if Baba Akande is not there, even if Owelle Okorocha is not there, 50 and 100 years down the line, APC as an institution can survive. Party loyalists who are technocrats, bureaucrats, have built this party to the point where its existence can be sustained and carried forward so that their unique contribution to Nigerian development, deepening of democracy and also implementing pro-poor, pro-workers, pro-youths, pro-women policies are sustained.

    What became of the APC reconciliation committee?

    Having emerged from the 2019 elections, the party in its wisdom had in its NEC meeting in November 2019 called for a reconciliation committee for the party led by our revered and respected father, Chief Bisi Akande. The committee swung into action and was working when this novel pandemic came and impacted on all programmes including the party and its committees. Therefore, we are expecting that the committee in due course would submit its report and present it to the organs of the party for necessary consideration. It is delayed but not disbanded.

    In the light of your privileged position, was there any basis for setting up a caretaker committee to run the affairs of the APC as some of the party leaders demanded?

    When I was trying to explain the context within which this crisis came about, you know I told you that first, the party is one, united and loyal to the APC and President Muhammadu Buhari. Number two, the administration of the party, under my leadership had triggered the bureaucracy of the party to life; we were working 15 hours a day, functioning and also servicing 16 million members of the party. Then the organs of the party, the NWC made up of rugged, experienced politicians was working and functioning.

    For instance the greatest challenge against the NWC which led to its disbandment was last week’s Appeal Court judgment validating or affirming the suspension of Comrade Adams Oshiomhole from his ward. In fact, a meeting was conveyed the following day which was a Wednesday and I had already fixed a meeting of the NWC for that day.

    On that Wednesday, 16 members of the NWC which made 80 per cent, turned up at the meeting.  The NWC was made up of 21 members and with Adams Oshiomhole out, there remained 20. Out of the 20, 16 turned up for the NWC meeting. The meeting was supposed to be chaired by Oshiomhole. Now Oshiomhole was not there. We nominated one of us among the 16 members that were present. The National Vice Chairman, South-south, Hilliard Eta, presided over that meeting.

    The next thing was that I as National Secretary of the party and then secretary of that meeting brought out the agenda and with the chairman of the meeting looked at the agenda, deliberated on it and held a normal meeting. In the meeting, the issue of Oshiomhole was tabled and we consulted the constitution to know what the provision is when a position became vacant whether it is the national secretary, national auditor or national chairman.

    The constitution says that the next person in rank should be appointed.  In that line, we said who is the next person to Oshiomhole from the South? It was Chief Abiola Ajimobi. We all deliberated on it and moved a motion, it was seconded, it was voted by the 16 NWC members that Ajimobi be appointed in the interim as the acting National Chairman to manage the party as a result of the Appeal Court judgment to which we all said we should comply. That was how we managed the transition last week.

    In fact, in that same meeting, we discussed the ongoing processes for the Edo State primaries which also required us (the NWC) setting up a committee for the conduct of the primaries and primaries appeal. Nominations were made and the committee led by Hope Uzodinma with Senator Ajibola Bashir as secretary was formed. On Thursday, I invited the committee and it was inaugurated by 2pm on the same day. They proceeded and conducted a successful primary which report he would submit today.

    The dissolved NWC was accused of bias. What is your take?

    The NWC was painted in this light by certain segments in the party…where the interests are political, economic, personal and so on. As I say a political party is composed of people with different aspirations. Some may have grievances over economic issues. You have to understand the dynamics within the context of a political party.  A political party is like a marketplace.  Sometimes you can see a political party as a gathering in a village square, sometimes you can see a political party as the life of a community but the point is we have rules and regulations that are guiding us. And because we are under a democracy, we are in the period of the consolidation of democracy, we must necessarily test everything that we do and subject everything we do to the Nigerian constitution, the APC constitution, Electoral Act and manifesto. We were not biased.

    I want you to check who and who were the members of the NWC. They are all senior politicians who were elected in the 2018 convention and sponsored by their states and their zones. None of them is a lightweight. And none of them is anybody’s boy. We all worked as a team. All of them are rugged and independent-minded politicians. There is this belief that Adams Oshiomohole was manipulating or dictating to the NWC. But I have seen openness, unity and seriousness (80 per cent of them) in the deliberations of the NWC. I also saw independent-mindedness in the members of the NWC.  The way they, debated, deliberated, proposed, challenged and resolved party issues. They did that in every meeting.

    Now that the NWC has been dissolved by NEC, why are members of your team threatening to go to court?

    No one is going to court. Following consultations with our leaders and all the stakeholders, we have accepted the decision of the President on the dissolution of NWC and the setting up of a Caretaker Committee headed by Governor Mai Mala Buni.

    We are respecting the President. We are not antagonistic. All the views we expressed were in the light of the constitution of the party.

    Consulting our leaders and stakeholders does not mean going to court. We have no such plans. We are putting aside all constitutional and legal processes in the overall interest of the party. We have respect for authority, we appeal to all the stakeholders not to escalate the crisis in the party. We will cooperate with Buni’s committee which will organize a convention in the next six months.

    Don’t you see the wrangling over the Edo State governorship election happening in some states? How do you see the chances of APC in Edo in the light of what has happened?

    I have not seen problems in APC but I have seen noise. I have seen a lot of noise from Edo and I have also seen a lot of noise from Ondo. But these are two out of the 20 states under the fold of the party. And this problem you see in Edo State or Ondo State; certainly even if the chairman of the party was not Adams Oshiomhole, it will still be there. There was internal crisis between Governor Godwin Obaseki and other stakeholders in Edo which if not resolved will polarize the party going into the election. Now, Obaseki, thank God, has left the party and the party embarked on the processes that led to the emergence of a candidate. I followed every step meticulously to avoid this Bayelsa fiasco or the Zamfara situation or the Rivers’ crises. We learn from our experience. So we were very meticulous in going through the processes that led to the emergence of candidates in Edo State and we had successfully conducted the primaries.

    At the moment, Ondo is another state where our party has pressures and tensions.  We have issues of cohesion and understanding among the stakeholders in the party there.  As you can see the deputy governor has bolted and joined another party. Now, there are many people agitating for one thing or the other in the party.  We had already conveyed to INEC that by July 20, we will do the primaries of Ondo.

    Did you as a party made any effort to retain Governor Godwin Obaseki?

    As a party, we did everything humanly possible to appeal to the feuding sides in Edo State. Obaseki was on one hand and other stakeholders on the other.

    Those stakeholders included the 14 members of the House of Assembly that he decided to lock out because he inaugurated the state House of Assembly with only nine members. For the past one year, he has been running the state House of Assembly with the Speaker nominated by only nine members.

    There was nothing that was not done by all stakeholders of our party from our top leadership to other stakeholders like governors, APC Governors’ Forum and the National Assembly to bring these stakeholders together: the governor and 14 House of Assembly members, the governor and five National Assembly members, the governor and House of Representatives members led by Hon. Julius Ihonvbare, the governor and the senator from Edo North, the governor and other stakeholders of the party.

    Severally, President Muhammadu Buhari talked to Obaseki and he appealed to all the stakeholders. The APC Governors Forum sent a delegation led by Governor Abdullahi Ganduje. The party set up a committee led by the Senate President, which Obaseki said he did not want by claiming that the Senate was biased. They sent another team.

    But thank God, we as a party held on to the process and continued with the process for the emergence of a candidate. It is our hope that having successfully concluded the process that led to the emergence of a candidate and flag bearer of the party, we hope that the leadership of the APC would work together as a team and as a family to carry out the campaign in a cohesive and united manner to see the victory of the party in Edo State.

    Remember the person that won the primaries, Pastor Osagie Ize-Iyamu, in his victory remark after thanking our members, in the first statement he made after, appealed to Governor Obaseki to please come back to the APC. I hope he succeeds and I hope his call to the other members of the party like Pius Odubu and Obazee who also ran with him would yield fruit. At the level of the party, they are all members and we all respect them. This feud is an internal matter and as God would have it, anything destined to happen, will happen.