Tag: Abubakar Umar

  • ‘We made N200m from kidnapping’

    Kidnap suspect, Abubakar Umar, on Wednesday revealed that he and other members of his gang made more than N200 million from kidnapping in the last six months.

    Umar, who was described by the police as a “big time kidnapper”, gave Niger and Kebbi states as their area of operation.

    Popularly called Dogo, the suspect specializes in kidnapping expatriates, the police said, disclosing that 28 trucks containing 1,972 bags of grains and 208 bags of beans which were meant to be delivered to the den of kidnappers and bandits in the northeast and northwest states were intercepted.

    Speaking in Abuja, Force spokesman, Frank Mba, a Deputy Commissioner of Police (DCP), said: “Based on credible intelligence, a team of police operatives from IGP STS Minna sector, attached to Operation Puff Adder, under the command and supervision of DCP Kolo Yusuf, arrested a notorious armed bandit/kidnapping syndicate.

    “The suspects are Abubakar Umar AKA Dogo Buba, Umar Mohammed, Usman Abubakar, and Shehu Mohammed at Kainji, Mariga Bangi and Tsaragi in Niger and Kwara states.

    “The suspects confessed to series of kidnapping in Niger, Kebbi, Kwara and Osun states and collection of millions of naira from their victims as ransom before they release the suspect.”

    Speaking specifically on Dogo,  Mba said: “He is a big time kidnapper who operatives of STS arrested.  The suspects within the span of the last six months has been involved in high level kidnappings missions and in his own words, his gang has raked in well over N200 miillion from various kidnap operations.”

    Mba also disclosed that the police have devised a strategy to cut down weapon and food supplies of the suspected kidnappers and bandits.

    He said: “We are trying to cut the energy supply to the criminals. Apart from intensifying efforts in mopping up weapons, we have also carried out strategy at intercepting food delivery to the criminals in their den.

    “Within the period under review, we were able to intercept 28 trucks that were clearly loaded with grains and destined to be delivered to the den of kidnappers and bandits in various parts of the country particularly in northwest and northeast.

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    “A total of 1,972 bags of grains and 208 bags of beans warehoused in a location in Zamfara.  This is a new strategy and we beleive by the time we cut off food and weapon supply, we will be able to smoke them out of their holes like mere rodents. This is our approach and we will be pursing it vigorously.”

    Dogo, who confessed to specialising in kidnapping foreign expatriates and collection of millions of naira before releasing his victims, said: “My job is kidnapping and I operate mainly in Niger and Kebbi states. I used to go on the operation with my masters who operate in Sokoto. During one of the operations, we collected N100 million as ransom. We did another operation in Oyo and we realised N50 million.

    “I participated in six kidnap operations. We kidnapped a Chinese expatriate and they paid N9 million as ransom without problem before he was released.

    “For the one in Niger, I kidnapped and collected N4 million. After that, I was contacted by an informant who gave me another job and I realised N4 million. I got another job in Kebbi where we collected N1 million as ransom. Another victim we kidnapped didn’t have much and he was able to pay N500, 000 before he was released.”

    The Police said efforts are ongoing to apprehend other members of the gang.

  • Buhari mourns Emir of Awe

    President Muhammadu Buhari has commiserated with the Awe traditional council, the government and people of Nasarawa State on the passing of Alhaji Abubakar Umar II, the Emir of Awe.

    Buhari, in a statement by the Senior Special Assistant on Media and publicity, Garba Shehu, also extended his sincere condolences to the late Emir’s family and the people of Awe whom he led for many years with dedication and unrelenting commitment to peace and development.

    He believed that with the outpouring of grief in the state and beyond in the aftermath of the Emir’s demise, it is clear that the first class traditional ruler was well loved by his people, sacrificed a lot for their advancement and has left a legacy of hard work, peace building, selflessness and patriotism for his subject and admirers to build upon.

    The President prayed that Almighty Allah will receive Alhaji Umar’s soul and grant his people a worthy successor who will build on the commendable legacies of his life of service to community and country.

  • Senator donates relief materials to displaced persons in Nasarawa

    Senator donates relief materials to displaced persons in Nasarawa

    Following the attacks on some communities along the  Nasarawa/Benue border by suspected herdsmen, Sen. Suleiman Adokwe has donated relief materials to displaced persons in the area.

    Adokwe, who represents Nasarawa South Senatorial District, made the donation on Wednesday at the Internally Displaced Persons ( IDPs )  camp at  Awe,  Awe Local Government Area of the state.

    The senator  described the attacks as unfortunate and urged the IDPs to be patient and law abiding in the interest of development.

    The lawmaker, who was represented Mr  James Agbo,  donated over 1,000 tubers of yam, 20 bags of rice, 20 jerrycans of palm oil, 20 bags of salt and  20 cartons of  soap among others.

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    “ We are here to sympathise and to donate relief materials to the IDPs  who are taking refuge as a result of the recent killing in Nasarawa/Benue border communities.

    “The killing is  unfortunate  in an area where  people that have been living and  farming together wake up and find  themselves in this kind of situation.

    “It is very sad that this  farmers/herdsmen crisis is no longer  localised, but a national issue.

    “I wish that the Federal Government takes  a measure quickly in order to find a way of stopping this  crisis in the interest of peace and development.

    “I will use my position as their representative at the upper chamber of the National Assembly to liaise with the government to provide adequate security for the protection of lives and properties of my constituents, the state and Nigeria at large,” he said.

    Adokwe, who is  also  the Chairman of the  Senate Committee on Information and Culture,  assured the people of his constituency of   robust and quality representation.

    Mr  Charles Gusa, who spoke on behalf of the IDPs,  lauded the humanitarian gesture of  Adokwe and called on other politicians and individuals to emulate him.

    Gusa also urged the government to provide adequate security in  the affected communities to enable IDPs  return home.

    The senator’s delegation had earlier paid  homage to the Emir of Awe, Alhaji Abubakar Umar, who had commended the humanitarian gesture.

    Reports say that there are more than 15,000 IDPs camped in different  locations in the state.

    NAN

  • Petrol scarcity bites harder in Jigawa

    Petrol scarcity bites harder in Jigawa

    As petrol scarcity bites harder in Dutse, residents have urged the Federal Government to take decisive measures to restore normalcy in the supply of the product to the Jigawa capital.

    A correspondent who visited all the filling stations in Jigawa state capital, reported that only the NNPC Mega Station was dispensing petroleum products to long queues of vehicles.

    A cross section of the motorists on Friday noted that the scarcity was artificial, pointing accusing fingers at activities of economic saboteurs.

    A resident, Malam Abubakar Umar, said: “People, especially the poor, are exposed to difficulties in sourcing for the product due to its acute scarcity.

    “The Federal Government must adopt practical measures to check petrol scarcity; such measures are imperative to address this lingering problem once and for all.”

    Another resident, Malam Sani Muhammad, said that the exorbitant prices of petrol had exposed many people to unnecessary hardships and forced some to park their vehicles and alternated with commercial ones.

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    Muhammad, who attributed the problem to diversion of the product and hike in its prices by some petroleum marketers, added “even the price of ordinary kola-nuts has now increased”.

    A civil servant, Malam Ahmad Balarabe, bemoaned the devastating effect of the scarcity on many residents in the state capital.

    “Look at the situation most of us find ourselves now; to fuel vehicles, to travel, to buy food stuff, in fact, to do everything now has become a problem.

    “Almost everything is affected by the present fuel scarcity across the country.

    “So the Federal government and other parties concerned should do everything possible within their powers to bring an end to this unnecessary hardship we are experiencing.

    “However, we know that the Federal Government is doing its best for Nigerians,” Balarabe said.

    As at Jan. 4, only the Dutse NNPC Mega Station was selling the commodity to consumers at the official pump price of N145 per litre.

    However, the product is sold for between N250 and N300 per litre at the black market.

    NAN

  • American who allegedly scammed three Nigerians of $565,000 gets bail

    American who allegedly scammed three Nigerians of $565,000 gets bail

    An American, Marco Ramirez,  who allegedly defrauded three Nigerians of 565,000 dollars in an American Green Card scam was granted bail on Monday.

    Ramirez was granted bail in the sum of $250,000 by an Ikeja High Court.

    The News Agency of Nigeria (NAN) reports that Ramirez was earlier remanded at the Kirikiri Prisons, after his arraignment on June 22 over the alleged scam.

    Justice Josephine Oyefeso while granting the bail said: “the defendant is hereby granted $250,000 bail or its naira equivalent with two sureties in like sum.

    “The current exchange rate should be put into consideration.

    “One of the sureties should be resident in Lagos, be a director of a reputable company and have landed property in Lagos State.

    “The sureties must show evidence of source of livelihood and swear to an affidavit to show same.

    “A copy of the ruling should be sent to all immigration agencies both land and air.

    “The defendant must report to the Lagos or Abuja offices of the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC) once a week.”

    NAN recalls that the EFCC had slammed a 16-count charge, bordering on obtaining 565,000 dollars under false presences from three Nigerians to get them American green card.

    Ramirez, the Managing Director of three companies – USA Now Plc., Eagleford Instalodge Group and USA Now Capital Group – committed the offences between February 2013 and August 2013, according to the EFCC.

    The American was alleged to have fraudulently received 545,000 dollars from one Amb. Godson Echejue to invest in Ramirez’s company.

    The plan was to procure an American green card (permanent residence card) for the Nigerian.

    Ramirez also allegedly received 10,000 dollars from one Abubakar Umar through a non-existent investment programme in the U.S. which would make Umar eligible to obtain an American passport

    The EFCC also accused Ramirez of illegally receiving 10,000 dollars from one Olukayode Sodimu on the pretext that the funds were facilitation fees with the American Immigration Services for an American Green Card.

    Oyefeso adjourned the case until Nov. 15 and Nov. 16 for continuation of trial.

  • Four men docked for causing public disturbance

    Four men docked for causing public disturbance

    Four unemployed men on Wednesday appeared before a Gudu Upper Area Court in Abuja for allegedly inciting disturbances.‎

    The men are Samuel Ezeala, 25, Ibrahim Umar, 22, Ibrahim Shilu 23 and Zadine Yahaya, 24.

    They were arraigned on charges of joint-act and inciting disturbances at a public peace.‎

    ‎The Prosecutor, Fedelix Ogubwe, told court that one Abubakar Umar of the Chief’s Palace in Garki, Abuja reported the matter at the Garki Police Station on May 29.

    Ogubwe said the defendants and 16 other men now at large were found at Apo Roundabout, Abuja using sticks, cutlasses and iron in beating one another.

    He said that the action caused a breach of public peace, adding that the offence contravened Sections 97 and 114 of the Penal Code.

    The accused men, however, pleaded guilty but Umar pleaded not guilty to the charges.

    The Judge, Alhaji Umar Kagarko, granted the defendants bail in the sum of N20, 000 each with one surety each in like sum.

    He adjourned hearing on the matter and reserved sentencing and conviction of Ezeala, Shilu and Yahaya until June 2.

     

  • Rivers Port, NIMASA synergise to avoid ship delay

    Rivers Port, NIMASA synergise to avoid ship delay

    Mr. Abubakar Umar, the Port Manager at Rivers Port Complex, says there have not been ship delays in the port due to cordial relationship between NIMASA and NPA.

    A statement by NIMASA in Lagos on Friday, said that Umar made the observation during a courtesy visit to the Port Service Comptroller in NIMASA, Mr. Umar Dachia.

    The port manager said that he had not received any complaint about ship delays from shipping agents.

    He said that some challenges at the port included pirates’ attack, which he said, was the immediate responsibility of NIMASA in terms of ensuring safety and security on the waterways.

    Umar, however, said security patrol on the waterways gave ship owners the confidence of doing business in the port without fear of being attacked.

    “Attack on ship is a serious issue that affects the patronage of the port.

    “We will not play with safety and any other thing that has to do with risks. We are always around for cordial relationship,’’ he said.

    Dachia said he appreciated the visit by the port manager and his team, saying that the visit was a sign of respect for NIMASA.

    He said that NIMASA had been trying in terms of security, adding that a platform was established sometime ago with Global West Vessel Specialist Ltd.

    According to him, a Memorandum of Understanding was also entered into with the Navy and both were responding whenever they were called upon.

    Dachia, however, said that the contract with Global West Vessel Specialist had been terminated

    He promised to put his men on the right track to ensure that: “whenever there is a change in documentation concerning ship clearance and operations, the port manager should be given first-hand information’’.

  • Legal Aid Council receives 62 cases in Kano for April – Official

    The Coordinator of the Legal Aid Council of Nigeria in Kano State, Alhaji Abubakar Umar, said the council received 62 cases in April .

    Umar told the News Agency of Nigeria (NAN) on Thursday in Kano that 54 of them were criminal cases, while eight were civil.

    He also  said that the council  resolved two civil cases and two criminal cases, while others were still pending in the courts.

    Umar said that some of the complainants, however,  preferred to resolve their cases out of court.

    The coordinator said that the council offers  free services and advice to those who could not afford to pay for legal services.

    He explained that most of the civil cases were on inheritance, marriage, debt recovery and land disputes.

     

  • ‘My miraculous survival of Boko Haram attack’

    ‘My miraculous survival of Boko Haram attack’

    It sounds like a movie story but it isn’t. Abubakar Umar, who has just graduated in Petroleum Chemistry from the American University of Nigeria (AUN) in Yola, the Adamawa State capital, was shot thrice by Boko Haram insurgents. He survived despite not receiving medical help for almost 24 hours. He is planning to write a book on his “miraculous survival”. He shares the synopsis of the book with KOFOWOROLA BELO-OSAGIE at his graduation last Saturday.

    •The story of a Boko Haram survivor

    Many in the graduating Class of the 2015 American University of Nigeria (AUN), Yola, won  thousands of naira in prizes for excellence in academics and leadership at an awards dinner last Friday, but the prize for courage, which went to Abubakar Umar, surpassed them all.

    It was only Umar that parents, teachers and dignitaries from far and wide, including the university’s founder, Alhaji Atiku Abubakar, gave a standing ovation as he made his way from the back of the expansive hall to the podium to receive his prize. Umar fell a victim of Boko Haram insurgency last year because of his dedication to community service. It remains a miracle that he lived to complete his BSc programme.  He had no medical help for almost 24 hours after he was shot last December 4.

    The university’s President, Dr Margee Ensign, described Umar’s courage as profound and deserving of recognition, especially as he was busy raising funds for the less privileged before he was attacked.

     

    The genesis

     

    It was not for want of adventure that Umar, who hails from Jigawa State, stayed behind after the university closed last December to do extra community service.  It was because the university requires all students to undertake community service projects of their choice – programmes they must initiate, raise funds for and implement to positively impact on their host community; and also because of his passion to help the less privileged.

    He said: “Here at AUN we do a lot of community service. For example, there’s this secondary school that has some extension of classrooms and they don’t have paint. So we organised some of our students to buy paint to paint those schools. We also tutor some of them. Also women from the community are taught English and Mathematics. Some are also taught tailoring and others.

    “I happen to be someone that loves travelling and anytime I am travelling, I see a lot of people, challenging people, lots of struggles everywhere.  I notice some people trekking some kilometres just trying to get drinking water so I know that not all people are from the same place, and some get many things easier than others. Hence, I believe that by reaching out to those people, one day, the gap won’t be that wide and everyone will be okay.”

    During his community service project, Umar said he helped to paint a secondary school in Yola and also teach mathematics and English, among other activities.

     

    The journey

     

    Done with his extra community service, Umar left Yola at 6am with the hope of stopping over at Jigawa to visit his grandparents before getting to Kano, where he lives with his parents.  He was aware of the increasing insecurity in the northeast, which forced the university to close earlier than normal for the year.  He took precautions by stopping in the transit town of Gombe to get some items for his grandparents and share information with fellow travellers on how best to proceed on the journey.  That interaction made him to change his route.

    “The travellers usually converse and exchange ideas about what is happening on the road. That was where the drivers were saying the road from Gombe to Bauchi was not safe. Usually, the road used to have more than 12 checkpoints, but on that day, those people coming from Kano said they saw no single checkpoint. And the military personnel stationed there are not usually brought to that place; they have their containers there so they live at that place.

    “For some strange reason on that day, no check point was seen. So the people were very cautious and they shared the information with us, telling us that we should not pass that road because anything could happen. A road that there is no check point, you know, you are on your own. So we decided that there is a much safer road, which is through the Nafana-Bajuga road, which will take you to Potiskum; then from Potiskum, you pass to Jigawa and then from there, you get to Kano. Although that was a longer route, on that day, it seemed to be the safest of all roads.”

    Sadly, it was not.  It was on that route – about three hours into the journey – that the insurgents struck twice.

    “So myself together with some public drivers, we passed that road and unfortunately, that was where it happened. We passed Bajuga, we passed Nafana, I think I was almost 40 km away from Potiskum. That was where the road was really bad, so I slowed down. When I slowed down, these insurgents came out from the bush and they started shooting drastically at us. At first I wanted to stop because I noticed they were putting on the military uniform.  The trousers were military and the timberland boots. But they were putting on head bands and screaming ‘Allahu Akbar’ so it made me realise that these were not military, they were the insurgents. So I downshifted the vehicle and sped off. And that was when they shot me on my left arm.

    “I kept on driving. I was very scared; so scared that I did not even notice that I had been shot. I was bleeding and kept on driving. I think I drove for five minutes when I noticed that the road was very rough again.  Within that interval of five minutes, there wasn’t any check point or any town in between. I wanted to stop anywhere I could reach quickly, like the nearest town, to report the incident, but there was none.  After the five minutes, I noticed another check point and the pot holes and the road was very bad so I slowed down. And when I slowed down, the same people came out again and they shot me the second time. That was when I was shot twice at my right arm.  But I had to continue driving, because if I had stopped, it would have been the end. I don’t know where the energy came from.”

     

    Help

     

    After some distance, Umar abandoned his car to seek help.  He was bleeding profusely and getting weak.  But help did not come early.  Despite meeting about four groups of people in the village (called Daudu) where he stopped and speaking Hausa to them, they did not help him; they even ignored him.    The last group of older men only volunteered information, advising him to avoid the major roads within the village because the insurgents were around and preaching.

    Their counsel ultimately proved useful as the back routes led him to his helpers – though he was initially turned away by them too.

    He said: “I just took a left turn and I was going. I never knew where I was going but I was just walking and I found myself in the compound of someone. I met a lady there and she wanted to give me shelter to stay but two older women in the house said I cannot stay because if the insurgents came, they would kill me and kill them too. So in order to protect themselves, I have to stay out.

    “I pleaded, because I knew if I should leave that place, I was going to die. But they said if I should continue pleading, that they were going to scream and call them and they were going to kill me. I said there was no need for that and I thanked the old woman and was on the verge of going.

    “But as I was about to go, the old woman told them that the insurgents told them that they were going to attack Gombe and those people happened to have relatives at Gombe. So the old woman told them that ‘if you cannot help this young man, how would you now expect God to protect your own relatives that the Boko Haram are going to attack next?’

    “That was what convinced them that I can stay at their house but should the insurgents come, they don’t know anything about me. So I said ok, I would take my chance. They took me to a toilet where I hid.”

    From about 10am after getting to Dauda Village to the next morning, Umar stayed without medical attention because none was available in the village.  It was perhaps the longest wait of his life as his military contacts could not rescue him until the next day.

    With his car and all its contents stolen, he had to depend on his hosts for first aid and contact with the world.

    “When the man of the house came…I directed him to make the salt and water solution to be very thick and asked him to pour it on the wounds. I could see my bones from the injuries, because they were very deep. He poured it and funny enough, I don’t know what happened, maybe because of the trauma, but I did not feel any pain at that point. He used rags to tie my hand that I had a fracture.  Fortunately, the bleeding reduced to drops.  That sustained till I think around 6pm.

    “He gave me his phone and that was when I made contact.  I have friends in the military.  I called them.  The person I know in the military was not in town.  So he called his friend and the friend then called me; he asked for my location, I told him.  That was around 7 ‘o’ clock in the evening.  He told me that no one can come and take me at that particular moment because Gombe State had imposed a 24-hour curfew then; no one was allowed to move.  He said from Potiskum where they were coming to rescue me, they were afraid that the insurgents may still be around.  So there might be a chance that I might eventually die unless I stayed there till the next morning.  I said no problem.  He told me not to take a lot of water; that if I take water I might die, so I didn’t take anything.  He told me to get some antibiotics if it was possible.  Everyone had left that place so there wasn’t any pharmaceutical help of any kind.  I have to stay there till the next place and that was when they came to get me.”

    The next day, in order to get help, Umar said he disguised like a mad man to beat Boko Haram informants.

    “The man of the house told me that there were Boko Haram informants in that particular village.  So if I am going out I need to dress like a mad man and disguise myself so nobody would recognise me; and I had to go through the back door so that no one will see me and I won’t put him into any sort of trouble.

    “And that was exactly what happened.  I covered myself in chicken dung and some sand, mud and something like that.  I removed my shoes; put them inside my pocket, and walked barefooted like a mad man.  I walked to the road side and they came and took me to Potiskum, where I received first aid treatment before my parents came and took me to Kano where I had surgery.  And I think I didn’t recover until after 14 weeks,” he said.

     

    Recovery

     

    Eight weeks in hospital stabilised Umar enough to return to school towards the end of January.  But it took another six weeks before he could remove his cast and learn to write again.  He missed examinations; could not take notes in class and had trouble with post traumatic stress disorder.  But, he got help from the university.

    He said: “Even when I was recovering I hardly slept for over two hours in the night or may be one hour. I had nightmares.  But later on, I kept on getting help from the AUN Psychologist, Regina Musa.  She did well.  I also received therapy from AUN clinic.

    “I resumed school sometime late January (21st/22nd) – that was about eight weeks.  I had to be with my POP cast for like I think extra four or five weeks.  And then I just attend classes but I can’t write.  I used my phone to snap the blackboard, stuff like that.  There were exams then but I couldn’t write them.  The school knew about my situation so they said that they were going to give me make-up exams when I was alright.

    “After the cast was removed, it took me like two extra weeks to learn to start holding my pen because I had a fracture in my right hand and I could not write.  You can see that it is still not fully alright.  They gave me my make up exams and here I am.  I passed and I have graduated.”

     

    Future plans

     

    Despite the challenges, Umar graduated with a Cumulative Grade Point Average (CGPA) of 3.00 (on a 4.00 scale), which is an equivalent of a second class upper degree.

    His immediate plan, with his school’s support, is to write a book on his experience; then go for further studies.

    Above all, Umar is grateful to be alive and now he is a Petroleum Chemist.

    “The day of the incident, I felt like I could have died because I passed out. I lost so much blood; there wasn’t any transfusion; I stayed for 24 hours without any medical help.  So I believed I could have died that day but somehow Allah kept me alive for some reasons I guess.  Who knows maybe completing this degree is one of the reasons.”

  • ‘Foiled suicide attack would have been devastating’

    ‘Foiled suicide attack would have been devastating’

    The police in Yobe State have said the impact of Sunday’s botched attack on A Division Police Station in Damaturu would have been “most devastating and disastrous”.

    Abubakar Umar drove a blue Chevrolet van laden with explosives to the station.

    Inspector Mohammed Danladi of the Bomb Disposal Unit, who deactivated  six explosive laden cylinders, said the cylinders, if exploded, would have wrecked havoc on buildings within the radius of 500 metres.

    Danladi said the explosives were 20 minutes from exploding, when the anti-bomb squad diffused the bombs.

    His words: “If they had gone off, there would have been serious damage to the environment for about 500 metres radius.

    “This means the police station, behind the station, parts of this roundabout, north, east, west south would have been reduced to rubbles.

    “This is the first  huge bomb that we have discovered since the insurgency started.

    “One of these has an impact of about 10 times what we recovered before. We have never seen this type before.

    “There was an alternative for the boy to detonate the bomb. He was timed an hour before he took off from his base but there was a command wire that he was supposed to have connected himself.

    “If that failed, he could have abandoned the vehicle and when the timer expired, the bomb would have gone off.

    “The content of these cylinders was dynamites that the insurgents must have stolen from construction companies.”

    Police Commissioner Sanusi Rufai said the suspect was blind-folded from Talala in Damboa Local Government Area of Borno State to Goniri in Gujba Local Government, where he received the “command” to come to Damaturu.

    Rufai said the suspect reportedly confessed that he was chosen for the job because he was not married.

    The commissioner said the suspect confirmed that there was another car laden with explosives, which is at large.

    He said: “The suspect said he was chosen because he was not married and that when he kills people he will go to paradise.

    “After interrogation, he confessed that they are about 200 in their camp in the bush and he does not know the name of the place but they receive instruction from their leader at Sambisa forest.

    “We are going to hand him over to the Joint Task Force (JTF) with our findings so that they can continue where we stopped.”