Tag: lazy

  • ‘My man is lazy in bed’

    A Mapo Customary Court in Ibadan, Oyo State capital, has dissolved the 10-year-old marriage between Iyabo Adedayo  and  her husband, Babatunde,  over lack of sexual satisfaction and irresponsibility.

    The court President, Mr. Ademola Odunade, said the marriage was dissolved due to irreconcilable differences.

    “It is possible to take a horse to the river, but impossible to force it to drink water.

    “The court tried to settle the matter between Iyabo and Babatunde, but there was no solution.

    “Therefore, in the interest of peaceful coexistence, the union between Iyabo and Babatunde has been terminated.

    “Iyabo shall take custody of the four children produced by the marraige.

    “Babatunde shall pay a monthly feeding allowance of N10, 000 for the upkeep of the children in addition to being responsible for their education and other welfare needs,” he said.

    Iyabo, the petitioner, had told the court the respondent had been unable to satisfy her sexually.

    “My lord, I no longer have any feeling for Babatunde again; he is lazy in bed and he can no longer satisfy me sexually.

    “For so long, I had been coping with his inability to withstand my sexual urge, but I can’t cope with this any longer.

    “My husband is also unable to take care of the material needs of our children and I.

    “To worsen the situation, he derives pleasure in beating me at the slightest provocation,” Iyabo said.

    The respondent, however, pleaded with the court to save his marriage.

    Babatunde, who begged Iyabo to give him another chance, said:  “My lord,  please save my marriage, I still love my wife, I will turn a new leaf.

    “I cannot afford parting ways with my wife now. I am already an old man; I can’t start looking for a new wife at my age.”

  • The lazy generation!

    SIR: The 21st century is often regarded as the computer age, the smart generation. It is a logical expectation that youths of the 21st century having the opportunity of advanced science and technology at their disposal to be the best generation yet. But quite the contrary the case is. It’s quite unfortunate and hurts to say, but our generation is nothing but a lazy generation. We yearn to accomplish much but strive to achieve nothing. Evidently, we are all about the flair, chasing brand rather than quality. We have been brainwashed to think everything in life comes easy. We rush to achieve our dreams rather than build towards our goals. We live a fantasy life so to speak that we are barely aware of what is happening in the real world. In a sense, we are the “introverted extroverts”.

    I don’t believe that our generation lacks vision! No! The problem is we lack the courage, determination, perseverance and the consistency to walk the path to success. We always route for the easy way out! We wish to ride a Benz but we lack the right sense. We seek for fame without an actual game. Think of what the likes of Albert Einstein could have done with access to such scientific and technological advancements of the 21st century!

    Our attitude towards everything is what needs to change! Evidently we have the “Einstein(s)”’ of this generation, just that they haven’t really realized their potential. The 21st generation need to wake up and grab the bull by the horn. If we endure the pain, we will surely reap the gain!

     

    • Mahmud Bello Zailani,

    NYSC, Kaduna.

  • NBA to report corrupt, lazy judges to NJC, says Alegeh

    NBA to report corrupt, lazy judges to NJC, says Alegeh

    •NDIC to review Act

    The Nigeria Bar Association (NBA) has set up a committee to monitor the judges and report corrupt and lazy ones to the National Judicial Council (NJC).

    The committee will liaise with local NBA branches through which lawyers can submit their complaints where they have evidence that a judge has been compromised, has delivered a judgment that has no basis in law, or exhibit laziness by sitting late, among others.

    NBA President Augustine Alegeh (SAN) yesterday said the association would send a formal petition to the NJC after reviewing the complaint or questionable judgment.

    He spoke yesterday at a sensitisation seminar organised by the Nigeria Deposit Insurance Corporation (NDIC) for its external solicitors, with the theme: “Challenges to Deposit Insurance Law and Practice in Nigeria.”

    Alegeh said besides corruption, the greatest challenge facing justice delivery is ignorance of the law by some judges, some of whom he said belonged to the old school and give judgments according to their beliefs rather than according to law.

    “For the first time, the Bar will be sending petitions to the NJC directly against judges. If any lawyer has a judgment, delivered for or against him and they feel it is not according to law, let them send it to us. Such judges should not be in our judiciary,” Alegeh said

    NDIC’s Managing Director, Alhaji Umaru Ibrahim, said the NDIC Act, which was last amended in 2006 would be reviewed to further protect depositors.

    Ibrahim, represented by NDIC’s Executive Director, Operations Prince Aghatise Erediauwa, said: “Presently we are proposing new amendments to the Act. One area we are looking at is strengthening the protection of depositors. We want to shorten the time-span within which depositors get paid if a bank should fail. We also want banks to be more responsible generally.

    “NDIC has a very critical role to play, but to achieve this, there are a set of prescriptions which have been laid down by the International Association of Deposit Insurers. We want to amend the Act to bring it in line with international best practices.”

    According to him, depositors of many of the failed banks have been paid in full, while some shareholders and creditors have also received their monies.

    “There are several instances where payments are advertised and individuals fail to show up to collect their payments. We have those isolated cases.

    “We can distinguish the case of Savannah Bank from failed banks because it is not within the control of NDIC. Their licenses were revoked by the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN), but on court orders, the licenses were reinstated.

    “The next step would have been for the owners of those banks to reorganise themselves and come back into operations so that depositors can access their accounts. Savannah Bank has been unable to do that,” Erediauwa said.

  • The lazy rich

    • The published names of debtors reflects a country that rewards the laggard and punishes the worker

    The nation waited, and when the news broke we did not cheer. The Central Bank of Nigeria gave an August 1 deadline for all banks to publish the names of bank debtors and the amount of their indebtedness. Many of them have complied and at the time of writing, the total amount of indebtedness was over N143 billion.

    Some of the names were prominent.  Such names as Isyaku Rabiu, Helene Esuene, Lanre Tejuoso, Hope Uzodinma, Samaila Sambawa, Sayyu Dantata, Emeka Offor were a fraction of the long lists of debtors. Directors of companies were also included. One of the names mentioned was Abike Dabiri-Erewa. The other was Dayo Adeyeye.  But their assertions that they did not know that company and owed no one have not been countered by their banks.

    We hope all due diligence was carried out in releasing the names, and nobody has been unduly exposed. Other than the two denials, we have not had any denials at the time of writing.

    The following financial institutions have published debtor names at the time of writing this article. They include Sterling Bank, Guaranty Trust bank, Zenith Bank, Fidelity Bank, Union Bank, Skye Bank, Stanbic IBTC Bank, Heritage Bank,  First City Monument Bank, Eco Bank, First Bank, Enterprise Bank, Access Bank, Diamond Bank and Unity Bank.

    Before the deadline, reports were rife of debtors who rushed to the banks to update their accounts so as to avoid the disgrace of seeing their names published. All debtors had till July 31 as grace period to reconcile their accounts with their respective banks. The banks were also required to publish the debtor lists in at least three newspapers.

    This is not the first time we have had this sort of exposure. It happened under the tenure of the former CBN governor, Lamido Sanusi, who is now the Emir of Kano. When he rolled out the names of the debtors, Nigerians gasped for air.

    The situation is no different today. The money owed by these individuals does not belong to them, but the majority of the toiling millions of Nigerians. They deposited their money in the banks on the basis of trust. But a certain sense of entitlement has prodded the debtors to see the money in proprietary terms. They loaned billions of Naira, used it for their own purposes and failed to service the loans. Some owed as much as N6 billion. This is not only irresponsible, but also callous.

    If the CBN and the federal government did not view this indebtedness with extreme prejudice, these persons would cart away our patrimony, furnish their lifestyles of decadence, and turn these loans into bad debts in the event of their deaths.

    This sort indulgence only thrives when the political society does not respect the values of honesty and accountability and allows a few to fatten on the miseries of the majority. They have always worked with the bank executives in making the banks cesspits of corruption.

    The point often made is that corruption in the political class is not possible without complicity of bank chief executives. But rarely have the names of the CEOs of banks been penciled down for collaboration with the business and political elites in the fleecing of the nation.

    The other tragedy is that these debtors parade themselves as role models not only in character but also in business. They are failed entrepreneurs perceived to run enterprises well.

    All debtors should be compelled to pay back their loans or face the severe penalties of the law.

  • My wife is lazy, says divorce-seeking man

    A divorce-seeking retiree, Joe Ubigho, told an Igando Customary Court in Lagos yesterday that his wife of 19 years was too lazy and had left everything in the house to maids.

    “My wife is very lazy; she has left everything in the house for our maids to do, including cooking,” Ubigho, 57, alleged.

    He told the court that his wife, Rita, 45, could not do anything, and usually flare up and disappear from the house whenever she was queried.

    He said that it was owing to such laziness that he was forced to take their children to a boarding school for proper care.

    The petitioner accused his wife of financial recklessness, saying that she could not manage a business outfit he set up for her.

    “My wife mismanaged the business I established for her. Her shop is now empty and she keeps demanding for money every time,” he said.

    Ubigho said his wife packed out of the house four weeks ago, saying that he was no more ready to take her in.

    He begged the court to dissolve the union.

    Rebutting the allegations, Rita, a businesswoman, said that it was her husband that chased her away from the house threatening to bathe her with acid if she did not leave.

    “My husband threatened to bath me with acid if I refused to leave his house; so, I packed my belongings to stay with a woman whom he knows very well.

    “I pleaded with him to allow me stay in his house to care of my children,” she said.

    She accused her husband of vandalism, saying that he destroyed the car he bought for her.

    She said: “My husband damaged the car he bought for me, he stopped me on the road and demanded for the car key and declared that he was no longer interested in giving me the car.

    “I demanded for an explanation and he threatened to burn me with the car if I refused to comply, before I knew what was happening, he started destroying the windscreen”.

    The mother of three said that she did not mismanage the business her husband set up for her.

    According to her, it was her husband that ordered her to use the business money for new shops he was building, promising to pay her back.

    “Most time, he will come to my shop with strange people, remove some goods for them and promise to pay me— which he never did. Anytime I ask for the money, he will fight me,” she said.

    She promised to take good care of her husband and the children and urged the court not to dissolve the marriage as she was still in love.

    The president of the court, Mr Hakeem Oyekan, adjourned the case to August 17.

     

  • ‘Some judges are lazy’

    ‘Some judges are lazy’

    AELEX Law Firm, one of Nigeria’s largest and successful commercial law firms, has marked its 10th Anniversary. In this interview with Legal Editor John Austin Unachukwu, one of the firm’s founding partners Mr. Soji Awogbade, speaks on the challenges of sustaining a large practice, legal  education, arbitration and sundry issues.

    What are some of the challenges in forming and sustaining a large law firm, such as yours, in Nigeria?

    Sustaining a practice of this size and at this level, particularly with your touted strengths, means that you have to keep adding to your skill sets, because you have to meet the needs of your clients.

    What we say to the clients as the basis of our initial decision to merge, was that we thought that the legal market required more skills sets than was resident in any of the existing firms. And if we were not going to fall into the trap of just growing by numbers and not skills set, then we had to do some integration along those lines, specifically.

    Coming along now, I think that we have made a difference to how the business of law is done. We probably are the only firm that still practises specialisms. Partners stick with what they are known for, and that seems to be the way to go.

     

    Does that really count for an industry that has become so diverse with practitioners expanding their skills and specialisations to embrace emerging markets and trends?

    Well, it is going to count more and more, because the size of the market that we service is expanding, the kind of investors coming into our market now are not doing so in briefcases or suitcases. They are coming with global establishments, wanting to take advantage of what the economy offers. To that extent, they are going to require not just legal services, but all sorts of services  to back them up. Because whether it is legal or physical constraints, they have to do some shopping here, which is in consonance with that development.

    What is difficult, is actually finding the skills.

    What do you mean?

    Our system has not completely escaped the concept of “My empire,” “Your empire”. The prevailing circumstances around here shows that by the time skill sets begin to mature in law firms with a need to up the antics, associates pack up and leave to set up shop else where.

    What is the place of one man practice in this scheme of things?

    Without disrespect to their readiness to take on tasks out there and face the world, I’d say most of them are unprepared for the level you and I are describing now. The level where a client says I need 20 people on a transaction. If you are a ‘one man’ firm, short of taking a holiday from other clients, how would you meet this demand? How are you going to get 20 people? This is the kind of Push and Pull that exist here.

    There is always going to be a market for boutique-sized type firms, who are smart enough to confine themselves to their areas of specialisation and strengths and sell out  other parts in which they do not have the required skills or expertise to other suppliers of labour or services. The fact remains however, that for you to be a full service law firm, you must possess the complementary qualities that make you one.

    How effective are our laws as   tools for economic developmet?

    Let’s face it,  this is the subject of a dissertation because first and foremost, you must ask yourself, is Nigeria constituted as an environment? Are the standards the same across board? What you may not get away with in Ogun State, you may likely get away with it in Imo State and this goes all the way across the country.

    Secondly, what is the process of law making in Nigeria? How reflective of our thinking are the laws? How dynamic are they to cater to realities around us? I agree that we are still young as a nation, but the same basic elements that other countries have used as touchstones for development are the same settings that we have right now.

    It is bound to be a collective decision to do things differently and to change things around here; at least to the best of our abilities, better than not trying at all. Many of us have given up trying while others don’t even bother trying.

    Have you ever heard one public official give you a coherent reason why the Petroleum Industry Bill (PIB) has not been passed into law? Not one! Instead of telling us what the problem is, they continue making one promise after another. In  other countries, a decent office holder would simply say “you know what, I can’t do this anymore, please appoint someone else to do it.” This is because, where he/she fails to do this, someone will ask for his head and before this machete-man comes, they’ll simply say, “I’m sorry I cannot deliver, here’s the job.”

    When you get to a society where no one asks you to account, no one audits what you do? you simply carry on with business as usual. This is the society we live in today and even the law isn’t sufficient to grapple with the challenges we face today.

    There have been concerns that despite some admissions into the partnership of the firm from within, no woman has been considered for such an elevation. Are the women falling short of the firm’s high standards?

    I assure you, that this would happen very soon. As a matter of fact, I can tell you for nothing that it nearly happened not too long ago, but the candidate left just about that time.

    That is the nature of the industry. Chances are, if I think I am good enough to stand on both legs, I’d simply ‘WALK’. We are used to these patterns in the professional services sector. We don’t expect anyone to plant themselves like a tree. However, at AELEX if you are very good, you may not be let off and that’s how you become a partner. This is the ordinary method by which this happens.

    When you are very good, you are spotted early and given responsibilities. If you are passionate and in love with the work you do and the achievements you’re making, you don’t just leave and walk away. You aspire higher and make better progress until you get to the top. So it is simply a coincidence of right time, right choice!

    What reforms would you suggest for legal education in the country to enable law firms compete favourably in the global legal market?

    The curriculum needs to be more streamlined. We must ensure that people are not studying law for the sheer heck of it. In the UK,  even as we speak, you don’t need a law degree to be a lawyer. There are other channels. And though these other channels mean harder and longer work, it is a choice that one has to make. By the time all of this hard work is done, the finished product would have been tried and tested either way.

    Here in Nigeria, students possess an examination mentality. We memorise, reproduce, and get a first class. You should come in here when I conduct interviews for first-class graduates for employment and you’d have a field day. Some of these graduates were forced to study law and as far as they are concerned, this obligation has been fulfilled. They have no passion for the law. During quantitative aptitude tests, first-class graduates fall flat on their faces. How would such a person solve problems? I have liabilities if I give wrong advice and I cannot take that risk.

    We must streamline our curriculum and teaching methods, to steer us away from rote learning. We need a country and a leadership that  knows what it really wants to achieve.

    Despite the introduction of fast- track procedures in our courts, the judiciary is overburdened and cases are still being delayed. The impact of this on foreign investments cannot be overemphasised. Is there any solution to this setback to justice delivery?

    The answer is supply and demand. I don’t go to court any more for these reasons. I haven’t been in a law court for the past 28 years. In any society where there are no consequences for anything, there will be trouble. The reasons that cases are adjourned are scandalous. The number of times they are adjourned is unearthly, usually at the drop of the heart. But guess why? We have so many lazy lawyers. Corruption is not the only issue plaguing our judicial system today. More often than not, it is the combination of one lazy lawyer and one lazy judge. A judge should be able to say, “No adjournment, I’m going on,” so that cases are resolved expeditiously, rather than give in to the whims and caprices of lazy and mischievous lawyers.

     

    Are you saying judges don’t do this?

    Only a few actually put their foot down against this indolent and ill-intended act. This is because there are quite a handful of lazy ones in the bunch. Every professional in Nigeria has five other engagements or businesses other than what they are paid to do; and judges are not exempted from this act. They are always in a hurry to leave the courts to go take care of other businesses – workshops, lectures, luncheons, meetings, and several other activities.

    Some of those appointed to the bench lose sight of the fact that when you accept to become a judge, you have made the decision to take yourself away from social scenes. You become dead to social activities. Most of them don’t realise what they set themselves up for and so they carry on with business as usual and this has its effect on our justice delivery system.

    With regards to corruption in the system, some judges go to the bench with set plans. They work to be posted to the right courts and would do anything to be posted to the right courts, and then they work to be assigned the right cases. A lot goes on; on this altar of justice as we call it. However, if you must resolve your disputes by litigation, then by all means go to court.

    Looking back to 2004, when the firm AELEX launched out, how does it feel to be marking the 10th anniversary?

    It sure feels good. The expression is that one couldn’t foresee what the nature of the journey would be, or forecast some of the obstacles we met along the way.

    Whether the vision was bold or brave, brash or rash, we couldn’t really say at the time. I have led a practice that was big, but it was never an integrated partnership, it just happened to be big in numbers. The difference with the Aelex partnership was the fact that we combined our strengths. Ten years later, we are still trying to acquire more skill set and that I think, is the nature of the development itself.

    Employees are known to work harder and give more in organisations where they consider themselves stakeholders of the business. What sort of structure does Aelex have to instil such confidence in its employees?

    When we started AELEX, it was very clear in our minds what we wanted to do, who we wanted to be and where we wanted to go. Starting with the name of the firm, Aelex, it is not the true name of any of the partners, though we all came from backgrounds where we had our names in the firm’s logo, etc.

    We were clear in our minds that it was not going to be, “my firm” or “your firm”. Rather, it would be a firm where you would come, prove yourself and grow up. This is the way we have kept it. We have made partners as we moved along. It is one place, where no one partner can sack an employee. By the time you are ripe for sacking everyone would have seen it.

    If you look at the way we appraise our people, it is almost a 360-degree thing. You cannot be that good and I would think that you are not good at all. I may not think that you are as good as my partner thinks you are, but that you are not good at all should not be the case. All of these kinds of elements we have eliminated at Aelex and so, it is not a firm where you can leverage on relationships with partners or anyone for that matter to rise to the top. It is also not a place where you can leverage on your gender. You have to roll up your sleeves and dig in the trenches with everyone else. This is one thing I think we have succeeded in establishing.

     How do you develop skills to cope the ever-changing legal environment?

    Truly, this is one thing we have been successful at, speaking of formal training and development. We are probably the leaders in what you may call, development spending. We invest massive alot of money on training and developing our team. Unfortunately, having regard to what I said before, there is no guarantee that these skills would remain with you, as they make their way out into the market and away from you, after these trainings. I think in this country, if you talk about a community called the ‘Aelex Alumni’, it is a substantial pool of very sharp minds; who have given themselves a brand in the market. That kind of value addition to the industry and market, is one of the significant achievements we can point to in the last 10 years.

    Do you think this will pave the way for a successful Arbitration practice in Nigeria?

    Arbitration is getting more and more grounded in Nigeria. First, the selection process is prolonged. It is much slower than the selection process of the courts, and it can set you back some huge sums. We are in a large arbitration at the moment; a process we kicked started one year ago, and we still haven’t moved. Beyond that, someone can still go to court to halt the entire process and there is little you can do about that at the moment, because access to justice must always be guaranteed. But if you do this in a few other jurisdictions, you will pay dearly for it.

    What I’m saying is that it is not always going to be the most appropriate solution, because if you are talking about judicial enforcement as a pronouncement, this is infinitely more powerful than an arbitral decision. Also, the simplification of an arbitral process, sometimes turns out to be an oversimplified process. Arbitration used to entirely time- efficient but today, the time is not that superior over litigation. Still, as with litigation, people make their choices with regards to these processes.

     

  • ‘Some of our judges are lazy’

    ‘Some of our judges are lazy’

    Chief Idowu Sofola (SAN) turned 80 on September 29. Born in Ikenne, Ogun State, he was called to the English Bar at Middle Temple Inn of Court, London on July 17, 1962. He enrolled at the Supreme Court of Nigeria on July 30, 1962, after studying Law at Westminster College of Commerce, London and Holborn College of Law. He was elected General Secretary of the Nigerian Bar Association (NBA) in 1979 and Secretary-General of the International Bar Association (IBA) in 1986 – the first African and the first non-white to hold the office. Sofola was elevated to Senior Advocate of Nigeria in 1989 after 29 years at the Bar. In this interview with JOSEPH JIBUEZE, he speaks on improving the legal profession and tackling the prevailing security challenges.

    How do you feel at 80?

    I feel great. Sometimes, I ask myself: ‘Am I 80 really?’ A few years ago when people called me ‘Baba’, I would say: ‘Why are you calling me Baba? I’m a young man like you.’ But now I think the truth is I’m ‘Baba’. I thank and I give glory to God.

    How do you see the profession now compared to when you began your career?

    Things have changed. Those days we were very highly respected. A lawyer was respected and trusted, but now we’ve lost a lot of that. Our boys are not as serious as we were those days. There was a lot of hard work and preparations before going to court. Otherwise, we’re coping; we’re managing.

    Who were your mentors?

    There were many of them, such as my late brother Kehinde Sofola and Chief Rotimi Williams (SAN). Chief Fani Kayode (SAN) was a fantastic man; H. O Davies – many of them.

    Why did you go into the profession?

    First, I think it must have been the work of God. But then when my late brother arrived from England as a lawyer, I was always with him, and I was like his office clerk. Especially during the holidays, I would go out serving court processes and letters and doing the job of a clerk–even during school days. I was going to court with him and I was carried away with how he handled cases. He made a lot of impression on me. The way he dressed those days, one could not but get carried away. In order to become a lawyer I had to go to England. In our own days we had only the University of Ibadan and they were not offering law. They were limited in the courses they offered in those days.

    What would you have studied if not Law?

    I probably would have been a doctor, and maybe I would have made it, but I have no regret with this one (law).

    What was the experience in your early days of practice?

    When I made up my mind to go and read law, I resigned from the Federal Ministry of Labour and joined the judiciary as a court clerk. That gave me some experience. When I finished in England and after being called to Bar, I enrolled for nine-month post-call classes. By the time I came back, I was not just a certificate holder. I had gone beyond that. My brother would give me file and ask me to go to so and so court and handle this ex-parte motion. I went and I did it. The following day he would say go to that court. I was a bit jittery alright, but not as bad, and quickly I got over it.

    Did you specialise in any area of Law?

    It’s good to specialise, but when we started, if you say you specialised, and somebody comes to you with a problem outside your area of specialisation and you say ‘no, I don’t deal with that’, he would think this man didn’t complete his law studies. So you have to be prepared to take any case. It costs you more time because you have to go and read up the law on the issue, but somehow you get used to it. But now that we’re getting many and we’re now having chambers with partners and associates, we can now specialise. It is unlike our days of one-man practice and you must be able to handle any case which came to you. To specialise is better. You become better.

    How can the falling standards you referred to be addressed?

    You have to go back to the schools, to the university, because the products – when they speak English you will think they’re good, but let them write something down for you. You will be surprised. We have to sit them up from there, and even at the Law Schools. When some come into practice, they’re thinking of money, money, money. Money will come when it will come. You should take the first years of your practice as an extension of your law school studies. Money will come when it will. Work hard.

    Can a young lawyer learn on the job on their own?

    I’ll ask them to think twice, because they cannot make it. What you learned in the Law School is how to find your law when you need it. You learn the law itself in practice. When we come to practice we come to learn it. And how do you learn it? By practicing it. And how do you practice it? You must have the case. If you graduate as a lawyer with first class, your father has money and gives you a whole house and you set up a chambers, spend millions to buy books, if clients don’t come to you to handle cases, you won’t have cases to learn from or practice with. So you have to work with a senior, who will give you cases, then you practice, make mistakes and learn. Even your father, as rich as he is, cannot bring his friends to come and experiment with his son. It’s not possible.

    Were there adjudication delays in your early years of practice?

    In my days, if you had a case in the High Court – we used to refer to Mondays as ‘call-over days’, you take a date for hearing. Sometimes they give you one day; sometimes two, sometimes three and the cases will go on those days. Nobody has reason to come and say I’m not ready, not even the judge. Now you go to court on any day and you see about 20 to 30 cases on the judge’s list! He could spend half a day giving dates and before taking a case that day. That really kills time. The old system of just taking a date is important. We have more judges, yet problems still come up.

    What other problems have you noticed?

    Another problem is with our judges: some of them are lazy. I think we should be more careful the way we take in judges. Let us appoint serious ones and when they get there get them to work hard. In those days, at 9.am, the judge knocks on the down and he is sitting. But now you find some judges sitting 10.30am or 11.30am. Some that sit at 9.30am, in an hour’s time, they would say: ‘The court will rise and come back’. All these cause delays.

    How can lawyers help to save time?

    Some lawyers too are always asking for adjournments, sometimes because they have so many cases in a day. Why should you have two cases in a day before different judges? And some lawyers who are not ready find reason to cause an adjournment. Sometimes they know they have bad cases; instead of telling the client from the word go that it is a bad case, they say ‘let’s go on’. And he keeps on finding reason to take adjournment.

    What is the way out?

    Also, asking judges to do cases like election petitions or sit in tribunals – taking them away from their own job means cases before them are not heard. So let us leave some of these things to retired judges. There are retired ones who are still strong, active, agile and able to deliver. For some of them, you wonder: ‘Why is this one going on retirement’? There are good ones who leave the Bench all because they have reached the retirement age. They are good materials for this type of thing. There are many of them.

    Are you worried by corruption in the judiciary?

    When I came back from England in those days and started practice, there was no corruption in the judiciary. When it was starting, it was in the magistrates’ court where they said some magistrates were collecting money to grant bail. I didn’t believe it because nobody took money from me. But later, it went from there to the high court. It remained in the high court for a long time before it went to the Court of Appeal and now the Supreme Court. At that time the Body of Senior Advocates gathered and said look, let us talk to the authorities not to make promotions from magistracy to the high court automatic so they will not go and corrupt the place.

    How can it be tackled?

    We said let us appoint people from the Bar, decent people, Senior Advocates of Nigeria to the Court of Appeal and Supreme Court since the law allows it. We passed that resolution at that time and gave it to the authorities. Corruption would have been killed at that time. But those we knew were actually corrupt as magistrates were elevated. Now it is there and we cannot allow it to continue. The present Chief Justice of Nigeria, Aloma Mukhtar is doing her best. They dismiss and retire judges. I think she should continue that way and let others follow suit.

    Should corrupt judges better not be tried for corruption?

    We’ve started from somewhere. Something has started. But I agree with you. But before now, how many of them were retired, or dismissed or sacked? We’ve started somewhere. We should encourage those who are doing it to keep doing it.

    Terrorism is one of Nigeria’s biggest challenges. Is the fight against it being handled aright?

    Before one can judge, you have to be in possession of facts. The problem we have in this country is that many of us we say things that will suit us, and we attack when we think we’ll gain advantage from there. For example we heard America said Israel should not send drones. I also heard America and England refused to send to us because they believe we’re not using them in the right way. We also heard from the news too that the boys we sent out are running away from battlefront because they don’t have enough ammunition.

    What is the solution?

    I think it’s a national problem. I think all politicians should forget politics and sit down together. There are things they should know that must not be exposed to the public. Nigeria is for all of us. I’m not happy that the insurgents are gaining the hand they are gaining. I thought they would have been crushed within six months. Let us work together. Let us all be patriotic and fight as patriots. In England and America, if anything happens, everyone forgets politics and faces the national problem and fights it together.

    How does Nigeria of the past compare to now?

    A lot has changed. I was born in Ikene where there was no hospital or maternity centre. I was told my mother gave birth to me unaided because there was nobody around to help her. While we were taking our school certificate, an officer would come from the Ministry of Works to interview us for employment. By the time we finished our exams, we already had jobs. Also by the time we were finishing from the university, work was already waiting for us with a car and accommodation. But things have changed now. As a school certificate holder, you can’t even look for job except the job of a houseboy or a messenger.

    Would you say that values have changed?

    Lawyers used to be highly respected. One day I was coming from the court and I passed through Leventis, I saw brand new cars. One of the sales people asked me which one I wanted and I told him that I was just looking at them. He asked me to take one and pay later. Their own car was 850 pounds but they said that I could trade in my own for 250 pounds and they told me that I could pay the remaining 600 pounds in installments within three months. I raised the first installment but my elder brother ended up paying the rest. They allowed me to take the car home without depositing or signing any document. Can they do that to anybody now? No one can be trusted. One day I was in the high court and wanted to use the rest room. I kept my wig and gown at the entrance. When I came out in two or three minutes, my wig and gown had disappeared. They must have been stolen by a lawyer!

    Did you ever consider leaving the Bar for the Bench or politics?

    I was invited to the Bench, initially as a magistrate and later as a judge, but I refused. I have never been interested in politics because I can’t stand the way politics is being practised in Nigeria. There is no patriotism in Nigerian politics. I was interested in the Labour Party when I was in England. I was attending their meetings but when I came back and saw the way things were done, I decided that it was not for me.