Abiola Akiyode-Afolabi is an activist, Lawyer and former chairperson of the Transition Monitoring Group. In this interview with Yetunde Oladeinde she does a review of the performance of Nigerian women at the last elections, the five gender bills that were thrown away by the National Assembly last year, the challenges, negotiation with political parties, gender-based violence, the role of Civil Society, new opportunities, and the task for the new administration.
What are your expectations from the new government?
There are lots of expectations. The first is in terms of the representation of women. If you see what is happening across the world, women’s representation is rising. Even in the recent election in Sierra Leone last week, they had about 30 percent women and it is unfortunate that in Nigeria we are just 4 percent and this is becoming retrogression for women.
So, we feel that in terms of appointment, the government should do something in this regard. Secondly, the government should also ensure that the constitution is reformed in a way that would benefit women. The five gender bills and the constitution are priority issues. Government should do more in terms of empowerment of women. And we have realized that poverty is affecting women, it’s a double jeopardy for women and there is a need to specifically have a government structure that is women centered in such a way that the needs of the people would be met. Nigerians are going through a lot and women are bearing most of the burden. So, there is not going to be any successful government if you don’t look at those who are suffering. People with disability, women with disability, women struggling to make ends meet and have become heads of most households. There is a need for the government to ensure that life gets better. And if you look at conflict, which is also another area that I think the government should focus on. They should step up; they need to protect the people. The protection of the people has since gone down and women also suffer in that regard and one would expect that there should be a lot done around the issue of security. I think the government should also improve its external relations; the reputation of the country is not getting better. Government should do more to make Nigeria of better value and be seen in a better light.
This also deals with import, export, and the migration of people. Agriculture is another area where you have a lot of women doing a lot of wonderful work but very little is being seen in terms of investment for women in Agriculture. So, one would think that government would focus on that and tap into the potential of women in this regard.
What do you think is wrong with women’s representation in politics?
There are a lot of things. If you look at what happened in Sierra Leone, they picked from the political parties. I think it is important for the government to look at it from that angle or constitutional. I would insist that it is constitutional because what Sierra Leone did was pass an Act. In Nigeria, if an Act is passed and we can still challenge it and say it is not constitutional, which was the argument that we had previously, then the constitutional review will be important to achieve that.
In the last administration, the Senate President and the speaker had confessed that they felt that they had failed women by not making sure that those gender bills were passed. I think it should be one of the priority things for this government to take over.
What does the Women’s protest against the NASS on the gender bills signify?
It signifies that the government is not attending to the needs of women. The constitution is the grand law, the highest law. There is not a single thing that the women demanded in the constitution that they passed. So, coming out was to show that the government was not sensitive. I think this current government should learn from that and learn to be sensitive to the women and the people of Nigeria. Women bear a lot of burden and having women who enjoy development, systems, and structures that are effective would actually better the Nation. Being deliberate and intentional about developing the huge population of women in this country is important. As we speak, 60 percent of women cannot read and write in most of the Northern part of Nigeria. So, it is not smart economics, to have had to lose that number. And that is what we are saying about representation. In this country, we are celebrating the first female commissioner for health in Rivers State. Can you imagine that? We are celebrating the first female deputy speaker after how many years of independence, and many years of the existence of this country. We should have passed those levels which shows that we need to do more to be able to achieve more.
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Over the years, your organization has focused on research. What are some of the things you have done in the past that make you happy?
There have been a lot of things we have done. For example, we have done a lot of research on Violence Against Women and we have come up with strategies. In the last year, we have been able to work with the UN women spotlight Initiative to set in most companies, what we call Standard Operating procedure in responding to the issue of Gender-based violence. Through our research work, we have been able to draft several research manuals, supporting the learning and training of groups, and women’s movements in Nigeria. We have also had a lot of research around political participation which helped people to understand that some of our research is being read and cited by people in academia and outside the country. We have also done a lot of research on gender budgeting, saying that we should have a gender-responsive budget, a people-centered budget. Our work has also influenced the passage of the Violence Against Persons Bill. It has influenced the designation of courts to address sexual harassment, sexual violence in some states like Yobe State and some other states where this is now effective. We have also contributed a lot of training for government Agencies particularly the Ministry of Women’s Affairs. We have stood for them to say that there is a need for increase and visibility for the Ministry. That sector being effective can also affect the kind of laws women can get from government and government institutions.
By and large, we have realized that it is a collective effort. So, we work with government, we work with institutions that are effective. We work with civil society organizations and believe that there is a need to strengthen the movement. We need to build the movement of women. If you recall that period of Funmilayo Ransome Kuti, a lot of things worked for them because women worked together. So, we have realized that if we don’t work together as women it might be a difficult thing for us to achieve.
The women in Civil Society have really come of age because I can see a lot of collaborations. I can see a lot of strengthening around the issue of women’s movement. I can see them working together, working with the government and with the private sector. It’s been a lot learning curve for them because they have lost and won and more or less a time of reflection for them. They come together for agenda, we see CSOs with 500 organizations signing a statement on a particular issue. You see all of them moving together to make sure that they stir us. Look at the way the Violence Against Persons prohibition law was passed in over 32 states. It is unprecedented; it’s a combination of efforts. From having an effective Minister for Women’s Affairs to having the Nigerian governor’s wives that became very effective, an unprecedented way to having a civil Society. Also, having a Civil Society that has come of age and can now work with Senators in a way that they can lobby and give some of those things. I think that there has been a lot of improvement.
We have seven deputy governors that are female. Does this mean anything for women?
It means a lot because there was a time in this country when we had just one. I think in 1999, we had just one. If in 2023, we have 7 then I think it is gradually showing that discussing gender equality is not a discussion that people are not familiar with, for example, Adamawa state. This was a state that had a female deputy Governor because a woman came up to run for the governorship. In such a state, you know that they now know and understand the need for a deputy governor. You would be surprised that we would end up having a female governor from the North soon.









