Category: Sunday Interview

  • Al-Hassan Yakmut: Why Nigeria won’t dowell at Tokyo Olympics

    Al-Hassan Yakmut: Why Nigeria won’t dowell at Tokyo Olympics

    By Andrew Abah

    Former director general of the National Sports Commission (NSC), Mallam Al-Hassan Yakmut, has ascribed his lowly journey from a volleyball player from Plateau State to the apex of Nigerian sports to hard work, determination and service to humanity.

    “As a 16-year-old and then in Form 3 in secondary school in 1977, I featured in the Plateau State Sport Festival and my performance attracted a rave review by the Plateau State-owned newspaper, Standard of Jos,” offered Yakmut about his humble beginning.

    “That brought a lot of attention to my secondary school and it was a most exciting period I haven’t forgotten. It made me to work harder and that actually was the genesis of my interest in sports.

    “Thereafter at the Bendel 1981 National Sports Festival, I set the junior national record in shot put and also won gold in discus and volleyball which made me a triple gold medallist at the event.

    “The then governor of the old Bendel State, Ambrose Ali, congratulated me and a complete page in a newspaper was dedicated to me. The social path of it was that a lady gave me a peck which made me not come out from my hostel the next day.

    “As a village boy coming from a missionary school, I thought I was defiled not knowing that it was an innocent peck.”

    Success fuelled young Yakmut’s determination and by 1983, he became vice captain of Super Star Volleyball team Kano. The team emerged Nigeria’s best and third best in Africa by 1990.

    On the flipside, Al-Hassan, meaning ‘the good one’ in Arabic language, and Yakmut, meaning ‘courageous’ in his native Mangu language, is living his name. He’s heavily into social and charity work with tens of widows, orphans and under-privileged under his wing.

    “I am very serious about charity. I have been sponsoring 15 Christian widows in Bokkos for five years, five Christian widows in Jos for two years, another 12 Christian widows in Abuja for three years and 15 Muslim widows in Kanam local government in Plateau State. My concern in the society after sports is caring for the less-privileged, widows and orphans.”

    The tall sporting administrator, who served in different capacity at the National Sports Commission from 1990 to 2016 when the NSC was scrapped by President Muhammadu Buhari, travelled down memory lane: he joined the NSC in 1990 and became the DG in 2015. He spoke extensively about his work at NSC, sharing his thoughts on Nigerian sports, sports ministers, his staying power, charity work and Tokyo Olympics. He spoke with our Abuja Correspondent, ANDREW ABAH. Excerpts:

    SPORTS UNFORGETTABLE MOMENTS

    In 2015, something exciting happened and that was when I was the DG of the NSC. We went to Trinidad and Tobago for the Commonwealth Advisory Board. It was my first appearance. Before then the people were excited about my CV and wanted to know if it was true that I had all that was in my CV. Before the meeting, there was a conference on anti doping for the Caribbean and we were asked to attend. I made an observation, that observation made the headlines in the newspaper of Trinidad and Tobago. After the presentation of a professor titled Integrity of Sports on Drug Abuse: Drug Misuse or Use of Enhancement Substances for Performance, I observed that and said that integrity is intangible but visible. It was just a mare statement that came from revelation of my thought but the meeting took that message strongly and that became the theme for the meeting. The journalists there escalated my thought. After the meeting, the Secretary approached me and said ‘Mr.Yakmut, we are impressed because you are actually what you said you are.’

    That same year, I was invited to Bahrain as a guest of the Athletics Federation. Bahrain wanted me to raise a team for Qatar 2022 World Cup starting from 2016 so that they can qualify. After just 30 minutes with them, they were convinced that I can advise them with players around them and with arrangement on how they can be citizens. That was an exciting moment in sports for me.  I have them in different forms; some are active, some administrative and some international. So far, so good my life in sports was life well spent.

    SUPER SPORTS MINISTERS

    This is a very difficult question and highly complex. If you are familiar with psycho sciences you know that there is no particular actor that has the same character with the other, not even identical twins. I would rather say all the principal actors I have worked with have unique and distinctive natural abilities which mostly had positive impact to some extent.

    In the opening remark of my CV, it is stated that I am one person who is endowed with insatiable appetite for education that is beneficial to humanity. Which means service to humanity is the best work of life.

    In term of food and drink, my favourite food depends on where I find myself. I drink water (laugh) but my favourite drink is ‘fura de nunu’ (Yoghurt) and fruit drink. No palm wine, no soft drink.

    RELAXATION

    I find it difficult to relax, but medically I have been asked to reduce the number of hours I work and be in the company of friendly people. For me to relax is to be involved in charity.

    LIFE AFTER CIVIL SERVICE

    I have prepared myself to be a visiting lecturer in any university in the north central and a full time farmer.

    FAMILY LIFE

    I came from a large family, royal one for that matter. My father is a village head of Chanso of Mangu local govt, the tribe is Pyem –Chiefdom. My elder was at a time the village head but right now it is my cousin that is the village head.

    My dad had three wives and 33 children. I was number six for my mother and number 16 in the family but right now I am the first male child in the Yakmut dynasty. I am personally married with two wives.The first wife is a lawyer; she has five children:three boys and two girls. The first two children have Masters Degree in Economics and International Relations and the third is a student of Architecture in Baze University, Abuja.

    My second wife who just graduated from Kano State University in Science and Technology has two children; all boys.

    I love to be with my family. My son was the best sports student at Family Royal Academy Wuye, Abuja, just like I was in my 1979. He refused to go professional, though I had exposed him to Reading Academy in England during the summer break.

  • Dickson Iroegbu: Nollywood had no star when it began

    Dickson Iroegbu: Nollywood had no star when it began

    For many years, Dickson Iroegbu was a regular name on the director’s credit roll. He constantly churned out blockbuster flicks and became one of the famous directors of his time.

    However, in 2013, he succumbed to the pressure of active politics and moved to Abuja. seven years after, Iroegbu returns to filmmaking with a new production, ‘The Good Husband.’ he spoke to SAM ANOKAM about this and his foray in politics.

    What has been happening to you and your career since you left Lagos for Abuja for years and now you are back?

    I’m still a Lagosian. I breeze in and breeze out but this is where the name, Dickson Iroegbu started out from. This is where my brand was built. This is my workshop. And I’m fixing a film which I just did which is titled, The Good Husband. For a few years, I may have left for the political environment but the truth of the matter is that all of us including yourself should get involved in nation building, that is what I was doing in Abuja. I didn’t go to play politics. This nation seems to be the way it is today because we seemed to have abandoned our country. We are playing the ostrich while our nation is nosediving. And I can’t defend it before my children if tomorrow they ask me, Daddy what did you do? And that is why I went to Abuja and I think by the grace of God my journey to Abuja has been a bit impactful.

    In 2013, I worked with President Goodluck Jonathan as an Executive Assistant on Creative Entertainment and Tourism. And then, we campaigned vigorously for his return in 2015 and went the way it went and we now have a new government who has served the first term and we have seen the second term and we know how bad and how terrible the state of our nation is now. My journey to Abuja was to avert the possibility of setting Nigeria backwards unfortunately I couldn’t do much and we are here. However, my first love is filmmaking. I have learnt a lot within the political environment such that I can capture it in movies and narrate the stories of our country one of which is my first move now because if you want to discuss a better society, the family unit is key and the head of the family is the husband. I just did a film titled, the Good Husband so that we can commence, this restructuring from the home front. It is a beautiful and classic film. By April the film should be out in the market.

    What is the film all about?

    The movie is simply all about marriage told from the point of view of the man. This time around because most times when you discuss marriage it is mostly from the woman’s perspective. Most people don’t even realize that men are also molested at home. That is because the molestation they receive from their wives, they have to keep it underground because they are men but truth of the matter is that most men that you see whether rich poor, old or old, they have had one issue or the other at the home front and that is what this movie tackles.

    Imagine a marriage counsellor who is ensuring that other people’s marriages worked, his own was crashing; imagine a pastor who is ensuring that other peoples home is fixed but his own was crashing. That is the irony which says as a physician can you also treat yourself? I featured actors such as Sam Dede, Monalisa Chinda, Francis Duru, Thelma Okoduwa, Paul Sambo, Bassey Ekpo Bassey and a few others. It was shot in Abuja and I think it is a beautiful film.

    Before this movie, when was the last time you shot a movie?

    The last movie I shot was in 2013 titled, ‘Stolen Tomorrow’. It was produced by Ini Edo. I have been putting my scripts together and I have determined that in 2020, I will come back and make films again. I’m back to making films not just everyday kind of movies, but those exceptional story lines you can relate with, you can see it in the partnership that existed between Hollywood and the White House. That is the kind of marriage I would expect Nollywood to have with our country Nigeria. Where we are now, if that synergy is not activated, Nigeria is going down by the minute.

    You have advocated for film as a tool to help society, how exactly can Nigerian filmmakers achieve this?

    This insecurity can be tackled from a creative perspective. This issue of the economy of our country can be tackled from a creative perspective, this lack of unity that exists in our country can be tackled through motion pictures. Film is like a mind bender unfortunately the leadership of our country especially this current leadership as we have has not placed value on Nollywood, indeed the entire entertainment industry and he talks about job creation. If you are talking about job creation and you are ignoring the entertainment sector, you are wasting your time in the present day Nigeria because this business is the highest employer of labour after the federal government. There is a need for deliberate synergy and that is the bridge I want to build going forward in the kind of films that I would be churning out. It doesn’t mean that we would go out and be singing government praise no but we will address issues.

    The Biafran stories have not been told. Those coups that happened in Nigeria, those stories we have not explored them. 21 years of existence of democracy we have not explored the journey so far. We have not considered with all of the issues we have faced as Nigerians how did we survive staying as a nation for 60 years? This year it would be 60 years of our independence, how did we do it? These are stories we must tell so that if there are mistakes or loopholes we can be able to block them as a nation. Outside that, I want to make money now because the business is more viable than when we started it. I’m also back, because the motion picture business is obviously one of the most viable products that we showcase from this part of the world. Ayo Makun is doing excellently well. Mo Abudu is doing excellently well but they were not there in the industry when we started it but we are happy that they have come in to be part of it and we are excited that the kind of films they are bringing out.

    In terms of quality, can you give us your thoughts on old and new Nollywood?

    Some of us who are the old hands that founded Nollywood are also saying that mistakes are still made now. The mistakes we made when the industry was still at the VHS level, they are making it also now. When you tell a filmmaker what actor to use on asset, that is not right. When you tell a filmmaker what kind of storyline to shoot, that is not right. In those days, when the marketers told us that comedy was what was reigning, I flouted those rules. I told them clearly that a good film will always make a good impact in the market. I am also going to by this medium advise the entrepreneurs that are coming into the business now not to go back to the mistakes we made at the formation stage of the business. We must focus on quality film and empower deliberately behind the camera people to make good films because the empowerment is mostly focusing on those facing the camera. I have no grouse against those in front of the camera but the truth of the matter is that it is wrong to discuss Nollywood and you are discussing it alone with those in front of the camera. You cannot get quality film from those in front of the camera. When Nollywood started, there was no one single star.

    So, we cannot therefore discuss Nollywood and give the glory behind the camera people made. We wrote scripts. I was once a production assistant in this business. We worked very hard, served in the business and today lots of stars have emerged from our works. However, there are lots of stars yet untapped across the nation. When you go to the South, East, West and North, you will see superstars. All that would expect going forward is to ensure that we partner with the right people so that we can keep this business going and indeed the quality of films that has seemingly improved can even get better.

    What new expectations do you have for Nollywood?

    We want to see partnership with Hollywood like the musicians are having with their counterparts in America and all of that. And that is by the grace of God the area that I want to do a lot more now. I want to have international collaborations where you would see Hollywood stars side by side Nollywood stars and bringing out best of films from this part of the world where the likes of Warner Bros, Diamond Pictures and the rest of them can come down to Nigeria and establish their studio. That is the kind of atmosphere we expect the government to create for us. Create the leeway, let the environment be available for us. Sincerely my journey within the political atmosphere has exposed me further to understand that Nollywood has not been tapped up to five percent of the potential in Nollywood. This is about when we would start. I’m ready with my new film, the Good Husband and by the grace of God immediately after that I should be embarking on other film projects. It is a cinema movie.

  • ‘Migration is driven by search for talent maximization’

    ‘Migration is driven by search for talent maximization’

    Prof Toyin Falola, a globally renowned scholar, is a Professor of History, a Distinguished University Professor, and the Sanger and Frances Sanger Mossiker Chair in the Humanities, at the University of Texas at Austin. A leading expert on the African Diaspora and Global migrations, in this interview with OLAYINKA OYEGBILE, Deputy Editor, he speaks on a wide range of issues regarding African migrations and their consequences.

    Migration has become something of a major concern to the world. With Africans at the receiving end, what can be done to stem the tide of migration, especially illegal migration?

    Migration has been with us as far back as the origin of humankind. Africans, as the originators of humankind, migrated to expand the world. The Bantu migration from the area of modern-day Cameroon populated Southern Africa. My city, Ibadan, was established in the 1830s, by refugees. Thus, the movement of people is not a new phenomenon.

    Contemporary migration is driven by economic needs. However, when the people migrate in search of greener pastures (which can be provided by their government but is hindered because of leadership failure), it becomes an issue of grave concern for the home country. When people migrate, they go to another country with their human resources. Ironically, most of these people are already developed, only to move to other places with their education and skill. The new country benefits immensely from their already developed talents and brain power. It is not surprising, therefore, that we hear about Nigerians (Africans generally) making important strides in the Diaspora. It is not that these people cannot use the human resources they have to the benefit of their home country; however, the failure to provide the basic amenities needed to foster talent maximization in Nigeria, and other African cultures, has been the major drive for migration into a new world. People naturally always want to travel to places where their talents are appreciated.

    To address the increasing migration of the African people, the government has important things to do, to forestall many other migration challenges. The government must provide facilities such as good road infrastructure, good medical health centers, and strong policy statements that would help to protect the people and their activities, among other things. Youths must be given the opportunities to use their talents and have jobs. Without the assurance offered to this demographic, it would be difficult to convince them to use their human resources to the fullest potential in favor of the country.

    Should they not be afraid of xenophobia?

    Xenophobia is disturbingly at a record high in recent years, and we have seen the evils of xenophobia through political decision-making across the world. Many countries have responded to the migration crisis by placing more restrictions on immigration and have striven to build more borders and security. However, this is only worsening the problem. Adding more restrictions and borders will not stop illegal immigration or halt the influx of legal migration and death brought by the desperate attempt to migrate.

    Instead of implementing zero-tolerance policies, countries around the world should make it easier to legally migrate and should offer more opportunities to legally migrate. In this way, the migration process will be better regulated and organized. It is important to note that to a reasonable extent, migrants help national economies, so it is reasonable and advantageous to help the migrants in any way possible. For example, countries should offer more work visas. Additionally, there should be more processing centers on the shores of countries where migrants are accepted. Generally, the key is to fix the broken system rather than to attack the migrants.

    Is migration now a survival option or could its intensity be decreased?

    Migration is a natural phenomenon. All living things, including even some plants, do migrate. Nothing can prevent human beings from migrating. Human beings are always on the move. Migration is as old as mankind. In essence, migration is not alien to us, and it is not out of place to say that it is a natural phenomenon that cannot be jettisoned from human experience. However, apart from the forceful migration of blacks from their homelands, the past century has seen a higher number of people moving from one place to the other. Many have migrated from their homelands for a better country. The reasons for this are not far-fetched. Many migrate to seek better opportunities for themselves and their families. Some migrate due to civil wars, terrorist attacks and general insecurity. For some, it is a luxury that must be fulfilled. That is, some migrate as a form of achievement. All these factors have contributed to the rise in migration. The rise in migration comes with the rise of illegal migration. However, we live in a utopian state, so migration cannot be stopped.

    What can be curbed is illegal migration, which is a bane to most western countries. One of such is the crossing of the Mediterranean Sea by Africans. The whole situation of crossing the Mediterranean has caused great distress to illegal immigrants, western countries, and the world at large. It has become a humanitarian crisis. A humanitarian crisis that cannot be overlooked. People trying to illegally migrate are sometimes forced into slavery while some die on the high sea.

    There is no magic wand to end illegal migration or even a holistic solution to prevent it. However, there are several ways in which we can try to stem the tide of migration and illegal ones. Contrary to popular opinion, no country is an Eldorado, a place of riches and splendour, an imaginary country or city abounding in gold, or a place of great abundance. Notwithstanding, African governments can start the process of curbing migration, especially the illegal ones, by creating suitable conditions to live. The governments must solve the problem of security that is rendering most of the citizenry homeless, fatherless, motherless, and childless. They must solve the humanitarian crisis of inadequate living amenities that will better the lives of their citizens.

    What is the root cause of migration of Africans to the West after decolonization? 

    First, it may be of use to point out that there is no “after decolonization” because we are still decolonizing. When we talk of coloniality and colonialism, we talk about foreign political and economic structures. We talk about structures that are presented as the only valid structures. What people often forget is that there is a mental dimension to colonialism – the attitude that the ways of life of colonial masters and their epistemic structure are the only valid way of living and epistemic judgment. So, this affects African minds to think that the western paradigms are the universal paradigms for judging what is morally, politically, economically and epistemologically right. Therefore, this has affected Africans to think that they must taste the western way of life before essence can be fulfilled. The colonialists made sure of this by sending the brilliant ones abroad to study, to be able to incorporate them into the western world and install some western thinking. Over time, this has passed as a culture. That colonialists are not occupying our spaces anymore does not entirely define decolonization. There is still an attitude of the mind that has made sure that Africans seek for help from the West on socioeconomic and political issues. Succinctly, Africans and their leaders are all blame worthy of the attitude of seeing the West as the ideal. It is seeing the West as the ideal abode that is the number one cause of migration of Africans to the West even years after independence.

    The immediate migration of Africans to the West after colonization was particularly prompted by the desire for higher education. Those who received education from the West returned home and became leaders in their countries manning the civil service, the military, the police and even commerce. Insecure environment, poor quality of infrastructure, minimum opportunities, lack of access to good health facilities, little or no safety net for job opportunities, and stringent laws for thriving economies, among others, are the reasons why the people keep traveling in their numbers after independence. These things are provided in places where they migrate to, so they try to encourage others to make similar decisions concerning their lives. Also, people migrate from Africa to the other world because of quality education that is lacking in the African environment. Many people go abroad to have access to modern equipment, contemporary machines, and new technologies, among many others, in their quest to enrich themselves intellectually. When all these are provided in the African countries, it will reduce the rate at which people travel overseas.

    Why do Nigerian youths want to leave the country?

    People have always moved from one location to the other over the ages, and the reasons for this have always been linked to the push and pull factors. People tend to relocate when their present location no longer serves their purpose. This could be as a result of war, drought, famine, political instability, sociopolitical ambience or any other condition that deprives them of their socioeconomic well-being, growth and satisfaction. The choice of relocation then depends on the capacity of the intended location to serve this deprived purpose through an auspicious ambience. This paradigm of migratory interpretation is what has been described as the push and pull factors, or rather necessities for migration. Migration, as I’ve noted, is, in most cases, a matter of necessity for the migrants. This summarizes what we are experiencing today among the Nigerian youths and the gory picture of their relentless efforts to achieve this, even at the cost of their lives. To be sure, these youths only symbolize the general feel of the society as they are not the only ones with the desire to emigrate. Therefore, it is safe to say that Nigerian youths struggle to leave the country in order to end or at least escape the perpetual abuse of their being by the Nigerian state.

    If migrations promote drug trafficking and prostitution, what should the government do?

    Aside for the measure of reiteration, I am not in any doubt that the government is at a loss as to what to do to stem the tide of migration, especially migration that promotes criminal activities like drug trafficking, prostitution, slavery and the like. This is more so in the recent time when we consider loads of reports on these activities and the unrestrained access to experts in this area by the government. That said, I think we need to constantly acknowledge the role of the vulnerability of victims of these activities, which is largely created by the state itself. The abusive relationship between the state and the society has left this people hopeless, that risking it all has become the only option for them to survive. However, most victims of this underground system go about this ignorantly, as they often find out themselves and confess, accordingly. The thing is, most of these guys have so much lost hope in the system that they will prefer to invest over a million naira on an illegal emigration process that later ends them in trouble, than to invest this money to start a venture in Nigeria. Put differently, the level of distrust between the leadership and the followership has reached the clime at which the followership no longer thinks there is a need to continue to press for avenues to survive in the state. Added to this is the promise of a better future where they are promised to be taken to. They have no qualms trusting these sources because of their sophisticated network and the news they often hear about kinsmen living abroad, even though many of them are fake.

    News of Nigerians abroad tends to be negative; how can the country rebrand itself?

    Nigeria is a very complicated entity; as such, its people are equally complicated. You can describe states like China, the United States, Russia and Britain in a vivid term not too contradictory – but not Nigeria. This lack of identity plays on the psyche of its people. Citizens’ diplomacy is meant to be promoted by the nationals of a state abroad through their various engagements with their hosts. But when you export goods to another country from a company that neither refines nor processes its goods, you are bound to have the same image Nigerians are known for abroad. You will find Nigerians promoting the vitality of the country abroad, and in the same piece, you find those promoting its rot. The quantity and quality of both strands is debatable, as it is hard to ascertain. I’ve said it elsewhere that Nigeria is not yet a nation, as the process of nation-building has not yet begun. To build a nation is to have a national philosophy and consciousness, which we do not have. Even when a Nigerian commits an offence abroad, with a grounded Nigerian identity in the international community, which would always go before the Nigerian, this would be considered an isolated case and cannot be used to characterize every Nigerian. This is more so in that with a national philosophy imbibed in every Nigerian, cohesion would be ascertained, the tide of migration for “greener pasture” would be stemmed, and the Nigeria that everyone would be proud of would be assured. On a general note, the effect of this is that the level of mistrust between the leaders and the led would have been reduced to the barest minimum that aids patriotism. Putting all of this in a simple word, if Nigeria could put its house in order through a successful process of cultural revitalization, then we wouldn’t have to be talking about redeeming its image abroad because as they say, charity begins at home; you don’t give what you don’t have.

    Is the Nigerian diaspora useful to Nigeria?

    Definitely! Every citizen of a country in the diaspora is an asset to his/her home country. Therefore, the UNDP some decades back launched a program it tagged Transfer of Knowledge Through Expatriate Nationals (TOKTEN). The reason for this, as it could be readily deduced from the name of the program, was to ensure that professionals of a country abroad share with their home country – either the government through its ministries, agencies, parastatals and all, or private entities, their experience and expertise knowledge on key noted programmes these entities are working on or choose to work on. The same model of synergy is currently being promoted by the African Union. It is a common axiomatic remark in international relations that no country is an inland to itself. Adding to this is the fact that knowledge, especially in the area of science and technology, which is a major drive in the development of nations, is moving at a pace that is difficult for countries like Nigeria to keep up with. Therefore, it is important that a viable loop is created between these countries and their diaspora asset.

    Is it advisable that Africans entering Nigeria should be granted Visas or not?

    Recently in Egypt, President Muhammad Buhari announced that as of January 2020, Africans will not need visas to enter Nigeria but will only be granted visa on arrival. Many have applauded the decision as worthy of the giant of Africa.

    However, we need strategic reflections on the security implications if people without addresses and zip-codes will create additional security problems, especially those coming from the Sahel. There is no problem with other Africans coming to Nigeria, but problems arise when the security of the nation is not put under consideration. With terrorist groups now taking their acts everywhere, careful instruments of screening must be put in place to check the authenticity of passports.   So, from the security perspective, caution is needed.

    On the other hand, when it comes to free trade and tourism, it is advisable to give visas on arrival. With no visa trouble, Nigeria becomes favorable to tourists and foreign businesses. Overall, it is advisable that Africans entering Nigeria should be encouraged with the understanding that the country develops the infrastructure to take care of its own people. The risk of a free entrance outweighs the risk of granting them visa on arrival. It is not a restriction policy. Rather, it is a policy of caution.

    What is the situation of Nigerian prostitutes in Europe?

    For quite some time, Nigerians have dominated the prostitution markets in Europe. Italy used to be the den of Nigerian prostitutes. These days, they have extended their territories to countries like Germany, Estonia, France and other European countries. The problem with prostitution by Nigerians in Europe is that the situation is twinned. That is, prostitution by Nigerians in Europe is associated or linked with human trafficking, sexual exploitation and criminal activities. Therefore, the situation of Nigerian prostitutes has been tagged “modern day slavery.” Women from Nigeria and Africa are most times shipped through boats to the coast of Italy. There are criminal syndicates and Mafia that are usually waiting for the arrival of these women. They sometimes pretend to want to help but subsequently put these women in holes where they will be molested and then turned into prostitutes. The other way of getting Nigerian women to be prostitutes in Europe is by lying to them that there are jobs for them in these countries. The reality sets in when they get to these countries, and they realize it’s not all roses. They are then housed and introduced to the real nature of their jobs. However, some willingly leave Nigeria knowing they are going to Europe for prostitution. The situation is becoming alarming, and it is another humanitarian crisis. There are reports that the prostitutes are not just only short paid but also made to live in the harshest conditions. They make the money while it is ridiculously shared amongst their traffickers. The case of is a classic case of labour exploitation – not just labour exploitation but a case of dehumanization. No human being should be subjected to the living conditions of these prostitutes.

    How can the government provide education to correct the misleading generalization about Nigerians travelling to other places where they would not succeed?

    I mentioned earlier how Nigerians see the West as the ideal place. There is a need for reorientation. It starts with the Nigerian government through foreign affairs ministry to put out informative jingles about the problems associated with travelling to countries where success is not guaranteed. The Nigerian government through all forms of informative media must re-orientate its people to desist from going to places where they will be enslaved or pushed into the prostitution industries. It is good to note that the education will not bear any fruit if the Nigerian government cannot provide suitable living conditions in Nigeria. It is when this is done that people can see that life here in Nigeria is better than travelling to places where they may not succeed. The inherent problem with migration is not just about failures of one’s country but also the problem of dashed hope – dashed hope in the sense that one hopes one’s fortune will change once one travels out, only to get to the receiving country and meet utter disappointment. These are facts that should be made known to the public. We cannot also leave everything at the table of the government.

    What can keep Nigerian youths at home?

    I think this has been addressed earlier on. But I will add here that there is nothing wrong with migration of people so far as it doesn’t affect the home country, negatively. Countries like Cuba make revenue from the exportation of their medical staff to other countries that are in need of their expertise. Ordinarily, given the population of Nigeria, there should be no problem with people whose choice it is to migrate. However, the trend, especially in the health sector, is becoming worrisome. I don’t know how far this is true, but there are reports that despite the massive flight in this sector, we still have some unemployed doctors. If that should be the case, then the condition of the country has become worse than we can even imagine or admit. Mind you, those on flight in this sector not only do because of the financial reward, but also because of the general poor condition of practicing as facilities remain in the mood of the first industrial revolution. Some brilliant and hardworking nurses would choose to leave the country because they can’t stand the demeaning relationship between themselves and the doctors, which is quite different other climes where professionalism prevails over mediocrity. Generally, the condition we have is a house turned against itself, and unless this house is put into order, things will continue to get worse as they’ve always been since we claimed to have gotten independence. To put the house in order is to strengthen our institutions, make government responsive, and re-engineer the relationship between the society and the state.

  • Kamiludeen Banjo: Coaching Deaf Eagles is challenging and interesting

    Kamiludeen Banjo: Coaching Deaf Eagles is challenging and interesting

    By Taiwo Alimi

    Nothing prepared head coach of Nigeria deaf team, otherwise known as ‘Deaf Eagles,’ Kamiludeen Banjoh, for the challenges and fascination of the job until he stepped into the saddle in 2004. Sixteen years down the line, the ex-international and former Shooting Stars striker says he’s enjoying the ride in spite of the challenges. “Actually, coaching deaf people, for me, is a gift of nature. When I was in NIS in 2002, they (Nigeria Deaf Football Association) came to me and asked me to coach them. At first I felt they were troubling me until the late coach Yemi Tella advised me to see it as divine intervention. He said why would they pick me out of 200 coaches; ‘it means God wants to do something in your life with them.’ That is how we started.

    “My first experience was 2004, when I moved them to Ghana. On our way to Ghana, a coach came from Abuja because the Nigeria Football Federation (NFF) kitted us and we were representing Nigeria. We went to Ghana and lost and four years later, the players, having watched the attitudes of the other coach and myself, decided they wanted me to coach them and that is how I was appointed as the head coach of the Deaf Football Nigeria. In 2008, I qualified Nigeria for the first time for the Deaf Olympic Games. We beat Ghana 3-1 on their soil to qualify and it was amplified by the Nigerian media.”

    The proprietor of Banjoh Football Academy notes that with dint of hard work and support from some notable Nigerians such as Gbenga Elegbeleye, former DG National Sport Commission (NSC) and Emmanuel Ibru, Deaf Eagles have been able to conquer many grounds. “I have led Deaf Eagles to many victories. Nigeria now occupies number one position in West Africa games, and in Africa, Nigeria is number two. In the world ratings, Nigeria is number 11 and we were able to get here because of the effort I put into developing deaf football in Nigeria.”

    Banjo, whose academy emerged second runners at the just concluded Ajide U20 Football Championship in Lagos, speaks further on his journey from player to coach and his bigger plans for deaf football. He sat down with TAIWO ALIMI

    BEGINNING

    I started playing football at secondary school games and when I moved down to Lagos, and in the course of doing my A levels, I was invited to play for Federal Palace Hotel and I played for them for a while before I joined Allied Bank, where I was offered employment while also playing football for them. From Allied Bank, I moved to Shooting Stars FC of Ibadan where I played in the league and CAF championship. I also made effort to play abroad and attended trials in Cote d’Ivoire and one other country. At a point, I was invited to the national U17 team, then under Sebastian Broderick but was dropped along the way due to an injury I had at Kaduna.

    SHOOTING STARS

    Actually, I did not know anybody in Shooting Stars. One of my friends, Taofeek Malik, who was playing for Shooting Stars in 1992, advised me to come for trial. On getting to Ibadan, I met coach Niyi Akande who, after watching me for only 15 minutes, asked me to step aside. He said ‘I’ve seen something I need in you.’ So, I was signed for the league and CAF Cup. It was not all rosy because I did not play for any big team before playing for Shooting Stars. So, I had to sit out for some time but I waited for my time. Some of my teammates were Dotun Alatise, Bright Omokaro, and others who were established players then.

    PLAYING ABROAD

    From Shooting Stars, I made effort to play abroad but it did not work out the way I really wanted. I was in African Sport of Abidjan for about one month, and met two Nigerians. I did well scoring three goals in training and played in friendly game and did well too. I played for them for a while and came back to Nigeria and by then the injury was becoming worrisome so I had to go the way of coaching.

    INJURY

    The injury happened when I was in Golden Eaglets.

    I made the team under Broderick and Christian Chukwu. Then, we travelled by air to Jos. On landing in Jos, they now asked me if I could play because they noticed some discomfort and I said I was ready. During the game, I made a pullout to Jonathan Akpoborie, who nodded in the ball to make it 1-0 in our favour. After the goal, I noticed that the leg was disturbing me and I beckoned to the coach to make changes. Since then, before they even travelled to China, I could not play well. After that, I was invited to the Atlanta ’96 Olympic team, but the injury just kept coming back.

    COACHING COURSE

    I have an advance coaching certificate in NIS, D-license from USSF; that is the American certificate and I have attended over 25 seminars. At the moment, I’m seeking for sponsor to go for USSF C-license or B-license.

    BANJOH FOOTBALL ACADEMY

    I started the academy about 10 years ago. When I noticed that there was a serious problem in Nigerian football I decided that I would raise a team to impact in then my ideals. I decided too that I would like to go into grassroots coaching as I want to catch them when they are small and amenable. So, I started the football academy, which is to raise potential football stars from the age 0f 5 to 13. We train only on Saturdays because of their education. Once you are out of secondary school, I move you to another class and they are the ones in my U20 team. Most of them are in the university because I believe that football should go along with education. Some of them are in Yabatech, Moshood Abiola Polytechnic and University of Lagos. I did the same for my son, who is a graduate now. I see a future where if they cannot move further in football, they will have something they are doing. We keep them busy and responsible. I am in contact with their parents and I tell them that education and football should go together. What the world is looking for now in players are very brilliant players and very brilliant educated ones. Luckily, I met somebody like Tajudeen Disu and Ganiyu Akanni and we are helping Nigerian players move to colleges in the United States. Once they are able to do well there, they can move to Major League Soccer. I have a player in the U.S, and one in England, doing his Masters degree after accomplishing his BSC in Economics.

    There are a lot of challenges in training these young players and keeping them together as a team. I have a lawyer who draws out an agreement between my club and a player so as to keep them on the right path and for futuristic purpose.

    DEAF EAGLES 

    In 2009, we were to go to Taipei-China, but the Sports Ministry said there was no money for us to go. In 2012, we had another qualifier in Abuja, and the then Director General (DG) of National Sports Commission (NSC), Mr. Gbenga Elegbeleye, sent somebody to come and watch our games. He was impressed and asked me to come and see him. On getting to him, he said he would support us all the way. So, in 2013, he supported us to go to Bulgaria. But, we camped for only two weeks and on getting to the tournament we played for group matches, won one, lost two and drew one. With a good preparation, we would have done better. After that, we have been making effort efforts to attend competitions.

    This year, we want to attend Deaf World Cup in Korea in September. The challenges we are having now is that Confederation of African Deaf Sport (CAS) now gave Nigeria the hosting right for African qualifier in April of this year. We are speaking with Lagos State to host the tournament for the very first time. Eight countries will take part, with four qualifying for the World Cup. That is how far we have gone. When the challenges of communicating with my players was so much, I bought a book on sign language and taught myself the signs and today I’m at 80 percent level perfection.

    I’ve been making news everywhere about deaf football. The players are wonderful and good. If they get quality support, I do not see the Nigeria U23 or Super Eagles challenging their standard.  We have written to Femi Otedola and Minster Raji Fashola to help us. Emmanuel Ibru has done fantastically well for us. He singlehandedly paid for our flight tickets to Mali and we came back with the trophy. The Ministry of Sport wrote a congratulatory letter to thank him. He’s one of our patrons and that is why we kept the trophy in his office because he has been good to us. We need more supporters like that. We have a great team and they play good football. I also need help because I’m not on salary. I only get allowances when we have assignment. The NFF can help us, though deaf sport is a special sport and under the Sport Ministry. But in other countries, the football federation provides for deaf football team and assists them. NFF should assist them. I want to take deaf football to a higher level and with support from all, we can get there.

    IF NOT FOOTBALL

    Honestly speaking, if not football I would have been a businessman because I love buying and selling. Even as a coach, I’m still doing it on the side. I buy sporting equipment and supply them. I also design jersey and if I have good capital I want to have a sporting line of my own. At the moment, I run Banjoh Sporting Equipment and Banjoh Football Academy.

  • Ada Ehi: I cried when I saw the crowd at my Future tour

    Ada Ehi: I cried when I saw the crowd at my Future tour

    Ada Ehi is a gospel singer who is making waves with her songs. In this interview with YETUNDE OLADEINDE, she opens up on her messages, personal style, memorable moments and the things that motivate her

    Tell us about your experience as a gospel singer

    It’s been awesome. My experience as a Christian artist has been very special; unique in different ways and I usually do a self-review of what I am doing from time to time. That way, I would say that the experience has been revealing, yet most fulfilling.

    For me, gospel music is about the message, sharing, caring and personalising this goodness has therefore been a wonderful journey for me.

    Looking back now, what lessons have you learnt?

    There has been so much to learn on a daily basis. I have therefore learnt to measure success with nothing else but impact! Impact! Impact! That way you can see the transformation that is going on. Also, that way my biggest achievement is daily becoming bigger than my yesterday.

    When was the turning point for you?

    For me, the turning point in my life and career would be the day I started to believe in myself and almighty God who chose me.

    What would you consider as the best job you ever did?

    There have been so many events and I would say that every job is unique in its own way. Making music and performing it to the people we made it for has therefore been very interesting and exciting for me. In addition, I would say that travelling everywhere just to do this brings great memories. One other thing that keeps me going is sharing my faith through music. It is always inspiring when I perform songs I wrote somewhere private with so many people I have never met! Hearing them shout those lyrics back at me is something else.

    How has being in music affected your lifestyle?

    It’s almost like I hear rhythm or music in almost everything I do.  Otherwise, I’m just me. Simple! Until you put me behind a camera and turn on the big lights, then you get the best of me.

    Let’s talk about some memorable moments in your life and career

    Looking back now, I would say that the first time I heard myself on the radio was quite memorable for me. Another memorable experience for me was the first time I heard my music blaring from music vendors at Ikeja bus stop. Recently, I got on Twitter and saw that I just got listed for YouTube Nigeria’s top 20 songs of the decade.

    I remember walking into the auditorium at the very first leg of my Future Now Tour and was overwhelmed by the turn out; I cried. It took a lot to hold myself together. I will never forget that experience.

    What are some of the challenges you might say you encountered?

    I am grateful for the rise of streaming sites; it has taken a lot off the table of music pirates.

    What makes your music and messages different?

    First, I must say that my message is good news! That’s what gospel means. I have interacted with the message of the gospel and so it’s become truly a personal message for me.

    Who or what do you consider as the greatest influence in your life and career?

    First, it is Jesus Christ himself. I also draw a lot of inspiration from a lot of great Bible heroes of faith. That has been a very remarkable influence for me. Then, I admire and respect Rev Chris Oyakhilome a lot; he and his message are one.

    Let’s compare when you started and now, what has changed?

    Like night and day, I have grown! As a writer, singer, composer and a performer, so many things have changed in my life and I am very grateful for everything. Plus I have learnt to say no just as simple as NO to some of the things that I tolerated at the beginning.

    What are you looking forward to in the next few years?

    I look forward to MORE!!!This includes being fully one with my message. And I really look forward to a greater Nigeria where her youths can thrive and flourish with their skills and acquired knowledge.

    What are some of the changes that you would like to see in the sector?

    This sector (Nigerian music) is exploding globally and there are so many opportunities if you know what you are doing. I would also say that we are emerging. For me, I just love to see it going through this wonderful transformation. I also can see that the desired structure is coming with it is coming with growth. So, again I would say that I am excited and love to see it expanding this way.

    What is your definition of style?

    Style means so many things to different people. For me, it is how you wear your smile with confidence on any outfit.

    What are the things that you wouldn’t do in the name of fashion?

    I would not follow a trend that doesn’t suit me, just for the sake of it. Also I wouldn’t go out in anything I’m not feeling myself in. Comfort is very important.

    How would you assess Nigerian gospel artistes today?

    They are doing very well. The sector is rich and emerging, could be quicker and broader. Here, I mean in terms of sound and style, but it certainly and surely is gaining and changing in a unique way.

    What are some of the things that you treasure most in life?

    I treasure my family, friendship, free weekend and some quiet time.

    How do you relax?

    I just stop and remove myself from anything I am doing or taking all my time at that moment. Start or resume something new or different that gives the freshness I need. Let’s talk about the people you admire and role models.

    I have a number of people I admire, especially some amazing young ladies who are ruling their world and making an impact. One of such people include Funto Ibioye: who has been influencing young ladies in career and lifestyle. When I heard she just turned 30yrs, I felt like flushing my phone. Young people have to push, put in their best and make the necessary impact for their generation.

    Who are your mentors?

    I grew up listening to Maranata, Intergity Music, Don Moean, Bob kit, La blanc, Ron Kenoly and a whole lot of people like Mary Mackey and Genesis. And a lot of Handel Messiahs, Mozart; which could be boring for some. My father had a healthy compilation of Kings College Choir, a lot of choirs especially Mary Mackey and Winans Brothers.

    So, those would be the people who have influenced me greatly. For role models, it would be Pastor Chris Oyakilome. Everybody knows that he is my pastor; his message and himself are one. What he preaches is what he is. And because I sing, I have had the opportunity to travel with him around the world and minister on his platforms. He is one big inspiration. He is a very humble person and it is very inspiring to watch him as he applies the principles of God’s word in his life and ministry.

    What was it like growing up?

    While I was growing up, I had dreams to sing. I was a member of Tosin Jegede’s team. She was a child star back in the 90s and I always wanted to sing and perform. I am not sure I thought of a star. But I didn’t quite know what it was but I just wanted to be in front of the camera and sing. I just wanted to entertain, to perform. So, that has always been my dream growing up; to sing, perform and travel around the world. I had an opportunity to sing for Tosin. Then we had to go to the stage to sing and you sing over and over again. It was a lot of work and I was a child. Then having to wake up early, move around and you arrive tired and then you have to come up the stage. It opened my mind early to the hard work in the entertainment industry as it were.

    Did your parents play any role?

    My parents did a fantastic job raising me because they were professionals. My father is an engineer and my mum is a nutritionist and guidance counsellor. So, you know what parents are like. That you have to go to school and focus on your education, but my parents were different. They played things a little differently. They got me a music teacher at home and so my brother and I had a home tutor for school work and we also had a music tutor for just music. So after school, we would take extra lessons for school work and special lessons in music. Then my parents encouraged us so much to be involved in anything art and church. So, in the local church they got us involved and they had quite a number of friends who were very involved and they got kids around. We learnt a lot of scriptural songs. Every holiday, we were up to something. My creative mind was encouraged. I remember watching a lot of the classical Hollywood like the King and I, Sound of Music, Seven Brides for Seven Brothers, My Fair Lady and a whole lot of musicals. I watched them several times up until I was in the university and we had them well preserved in those days on VHS and so on. My father had all those things well preserved especially when he knew that they were my go- to and I could lock myself up with them. He just preserved them and had people to service those things. I watched them for hours, days upon days. Then he had a lot of videos on preachers, sermons and he was very balanced. That encouraged and harnessed my potential very early in life.

    Any advice for young people?

    I will tell them to think about the future. Don’t make any decision for now; don’t make permanent decisions on where you are now. Think about you in the future; don’t make temporary decisions to soothe or cater for temporary needs or present purchase. Also, have at the back of your mind that the future is now. If you are not preparing for the future, then everything that you are doing would not add on. Don’t be in a hurry, take your time and do things right.

  • ‘Why CBN must support deposit money banks with lowered interest rates’

    ‘Why CBN must support deposit money banks with lowered interest rates’

    Chuku Wachuku is the President, Association of Agricultural and Industrial Entrepreneurs of Nigeria, (AIEN), also Former Director-General of Operations, National Directorate of Employment (NDE) and Former National President, Nigerian Association of Small Scale Industrialists (NASSI). In this interview with AMBROSE NNAJI, Wachuku who is in the business of raw materials-based cluster advised the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN) to support the deposit money banks that bring initiatives that will generate employment and give them interest buy back so that they can advance this money to the entrepreneurs who will create employment. Excerpts:

     

    WHAT is Agricultural and Industrial Entrepreneurs of Nigeria all about?

    The Association of Agricultural and Industrial Entrepreneurs of Nigeria, (AIEN) is an association born by members of who want to encourage entrepreneurship development through agricultural and industrial value chain. You do know that the basis of employment generation is the Medium, Small and Micro Enterprise (MSME). So, this is conglomeration of all the indices that will create employment and wealth for Nigerians.

    When you aggregate agricultural produce, the endgame is to actually initially create domestic consumption which will impact on prices or create raw materials for the willing/ailing industries in Nigeria which again will create production for the country and also create employment. Employment by any standard will trigger the way we create wages, and employment will trigger demand in the economy and by the time it triggers demand, it triggers a significant supply, so these are areas that interest people to operate in this sphere of the economy and that way create employment and wages, and food and raw material for the industries.

    The association which came into being about three years ago its local government driven, we have membership in all the local governments in Nigeria. Because of the importance of raw materials in moving the economy forward, and because of the vision of the Raw Materials Research and Development Council (RMRDC), we came together to reach an understanding which climaxed to signing an Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) to partner with RMRDC, so that’s a strong partnership, and it’s all the RMRDC and AIEN initiative.

    What strategies/plans have you put in place to achieve these objectives?

    We are concluding negotiations with Deposit Money Banks and Development Financial Institutions. We are promoting the concept of entrepreneurship development; an entrepreneur is the business owner. At the NDE appraised the concept of self-employment as against the deployment. If my goal works and I develop a business for you, you will not only employ yourself but employ other people and that’s how we create employment.

    The NDE under me also introduced the concept of entrepreneurship training in all the National Youths Service Corps (NYSC) camps nationwide which is still ongoing. How do I run such a huge project, a critical element of risk assessment is who’s running it, the experience of who is running it. I have that experience, we introduced it into this country, I know what I am doing, and the experts know what they are doing.

    How will this initiative impact on the nation’s economy?

    First of all we are going to reduce prices, because any time supply is over demand, the price must go down, and any time the demand curve goes over supply the price must also go down. There’s so much demand on the economy such that now there’s importation syndrome in the economy. The Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN) banned certain goods because importation culture is defeating production in the country.

    Now what’s militating against the SME, principally is access to finance, so we are creating an eco-system the guarantees the deposit money banks and the development finance institutions a track that they can recover their money. The deposit money banks are paying lip service to SME funding, the CBN had had to intervene in some areas and they came up with different programmes, the Anchor-Borrowers programme, and the commercial agricultural loan scheme among others.

    So much money has been released by the CBN, but CBN is lacking in the proper platform to execute these programmes. They have also come up with a system where they penalise banks, so deposit money banks are now clamouring to look for good platform which we are offering to them to be able to advance their lending because the risk factor in the SME sector is so high.

    They are afraid to lend but we are coming up with a strategy that will first of all create funds to our members who will own businesses. When they own these businesses, it’s their responsibility to accept the facility, it’s also their responsibility to repay the loan, and it’s the responsibility of the organisation to ensure that these funds are returned. When you inject this capital into the system particularly directed at agriculture, and agriculture value chain we are going to produce food for local consumption, produce food for industrial raw materials, create produce for exports and earn foreign exchange. When the nation is importing less and less we hope it will impact on the foreign exchange rate regime because there’s less pressure on the dollar, you don’t have too many people chasing the dollar anymore, they will be earning foreign exchange.

    I’m glad that some deposit money banks that are progressive and proactive are eager to support this raw material based clusters initiative in the agriculture value chain. We are also looking at the creative industry, there’s so much money and so much potential in that area.

    Most farm produce are wasted even before they arrive their destination, how is this initiative going to ensure preservation of those products

    We don’t even have enough produce, talk less of waste. On our platform, it aggregates production, which is supply and demand of it. So we are going to adopt the strategy of supply chain management such that as you are producing somebody is off taking from you within that same platform. Let’s say this group that we have formed a tomatoes processing industry we are going to be working with them where they will off take all the tomatoes we produce, it’s not even enough, it’s just because there is no organised system to guarantee that.

    We are going to eliminate storage requirement because it is going directly from the cluster to the production facility because tomatoes is their raw material, they should avoid storage. What they should be talking about is what means of transporting these fresh tomatoes to their factory. Let’s say you have cooling vans that can transport these tomatoes which is again another business. Our members will be encouraged to own those cooling vans because they have already guaranteed enough cargo, the cargo being the raw materials to the place

    So we calculate the returns on that investment, when you take money from a development finance institution, you invest in your business you are expected to make profit. So for each industry we calculate the return on investment to each member to keep him there, we are into research of what the economy looks like, if you go and fund fashion industry designers and they produce more shirts than the economy demands, they will lose profit, they will fall into unemployment again, so there must be that critical gap between supply and demand.

    Projects like this oftentimes end up in the pockets of the originator, how are you going to ensure that this initiative benefited many Nigerians?

    I am an economist. I pioneered creation of jobs and because I know having been in that field for a long time that’s why I can tell you that government cannot create employment, government does not even have the money to create employment. By the time we would have come to maturity because we are going to put about 500 people but we are starting with 250 people per cluster in each local government by time you put in 500people per cluster in each local government it goes into hundreds of millions of the naira.

    You should be asking questions when government creates a budget and the National Assembly appropriates this budget, have you taken track of input and out this funds going into these agencies, what are the deliverables, what have they delivered. If you give this kind of money to government agency, it funds first of all salaries and overhead which gulps over 60/70 percent of the budget, how much is left.

    Talking about skills acquisitions, we did skills acquisition many years ago, at my time we were training about 100 000 people in different skills. These agencies you talk about entrepreneurship training, agencies can do that what are the deliverables but the funds we are getting were going directly into production, no overheads because it’s a small businessman. The critical point is that he’s an entrepreneur; he’s a business man, if you go and give it to big officials of government they go to seminars abroad, they acquire huge houses for their operatives/officers, they buy cars, they take fuel subsidies, and it goes down the line. So the bulk of money of the national budget is going into wages and overhead, so when they see what we are doing they will see the wisdom to invest directly into production.

    Is there a situation where you can have more than one cluster in a particular local government?

    I told you about supply and demand, if you have too much supply over demand the price will fall, if you are producing 10, 000 tons of cassava and the demand is 8000 the price must fall, you must have that gap, there must be a differential between supply and demand. So we will monitor the economy and see what the aggregate demand is because entrepreneur must make money but because now there’s so much supply in the system the price will fall but not so much that the entrepreneur will not make money.

    Businessman operates on return of investment, if you are doing business and you are not making profit you are not going to continue that business. So we cannot within the economy of that state create a situation where the entrepreneurs/producers don’t make money, we will always be watching the prices and features. We are not just producing now; we are not looking at short terms we are going to be looking at four to five years terms, a concept that money will be domiciled on the shoulders of entrepreneurs who are the obligors. They are responsible for their borrowing and repayment, but we know our members, we know the cultures of our members, we know who they are and where they are and they will be able to help with extension

    Raw Materials and Research which is large member of the Ministry of Science and Technology are research organisation affiliated to the research institute and they fund them, so they give us the improved seedlings that give high yield. They will also provide extension services to each cluster in each local government, they will provide some entrepreneurship trainers that are approved that will also come they are consultants in business development who will train the people on business development, and they have to look at these things as businesses.

    How are you going to source land spaces for this initiative, will the state government be involved?

    Actually we don’t want government involvement in this, after all how many government projects are working?

    The central point is that we are not talking about any state giving us land because they won’t give you. If you depend on the state to give you land, the process of acquisition will take about 3-4years, so we are going to lease land as part of the components of the loan.

    We are not going to wait for the state to acquire land, but these lands must be in contiguity in that cluster, we are going to encourage our members go to an area in a local government to lease lands, whether 50 here or 100 hectares but they must be close enough. We are also coming up with a concept that an entrepreneur from any part of the state in the country can own part of a cluster where land is available.

    What’s he doing owning part of a cluster in any part of the country because he is an investor, you have a loan of N250, 000 and you want to invest it, when you invest it in a cluster, each cluster of 250 people investing N250, 000 per entrepreneur so that cluster in that local government will attract N62.5m per cluster in the first instance, so we calculated depending on the produce that you are embarking upon.

    You should be asking questions

    The Anchor Borrower’s programme is not bad in itself, but implementation of the anchor borrower’s programme is faulty, because you do not have the platform that would ensure that funds are recovered. You don’t need to be going through the court requirement which they will never do and I also told them that a lot of the money given to the state was on political grounds.

    For a state to borrow the sum of about N2b or N3b on one of the perogramme of the CBN, CBN will ask them to give them the Irrevocable Standing Payment Order (ISPO). So long the state gives you this ISPO you are at liberty to do what you want with their money, which is now the concept of the development finance they are supposed to use it to develop the economy.

    So if you do not inject the money into the targeted production base you are not going to get any employment created, so they diverted this money because its political money. But we are saying that this money will go directly to the heart and where it’s designed to go to. Now we are working with some deposit money banks and we are going to encourage the CBN to share the risk with them so that the interest will go down.

    The development financial institutions cannot manage the programmes they bring out, they can’t, implementing agencies at the banks are the ones who to manage them. I want to call on the CBN to work with the banks and not just talk about it, but to work with them who have signed MoU with reputable and knowledgeable Business Membership Organisations (BMO), who know their members and share the risks. The banks are afraid because the risk is all on them and the risk cannot be all on them.

    What’s the difference between this and the federal government N-Power?

    N-Power is creating short term employment by adding staff, creating employment paying them aggregate of N30, 000, it’s a short term benefit which does not generate itself, and they are no creating jobs, if I employ you, you create one job, but if I empower you will not only employ yourself but you will employ five or ten other people

    The micro mix involved in this when you employ five people you have created six jobs, these people are earning wages they cannot earn salary. When you create jobs you are creating wages for these people, these wages have the effect of triggering a demand in the economy.  When you trigger a demand in the economy you must trigger a consequential supply, that’s that economic micro mix that will create employment in the process, it will increase the gross domestic product (GDP), that’s what the government cannot do, and government does not have the capacity to do that.

    Take the 2020 budget of the Federal Government for instance, 70-75percent of the budget is in wages and overhead cost only about 20percent is capital, how is that going to create employment that cannot happen. It must be private sector driven, the CBN has great interventions in their programme but implementation is faulty because they cannot implement it.

    Is this initiative going to take place in all the states at the same time or do you have a focus?

    We are testing a pilot, together with the partners; we plan for two states per zone that’s 12 states in the pilot. We assume 20 locals governments in each state, it’s the states that show interest in what we are doing that we are going to use as pilot. The states that are conducive, for example if they say  a state doesn’t have the land space we are not going to waste our time, when they see the pilot that’s working in other state they are going to create it

    There are 774 local governments across the federation, we want to take off in 240 local governments, it’s on competing demand, and we are going to throw it open though we have selected some states based on geographical spread of the 6 zones. We have gone further to negotiate with the off takers, we are meeting with the flower mills association of Nigeria, and their raw materials are maize, cassava and sorghum,

    The companies in Nigeria are so stretched and stretched out, some had invested billions of the naira in funding farmers who have note returned that investments in terms of produce because they are taking it wrong. But we are discussing with them to show them the right way to go, we don’t even need their money what we need is their off taker agreement to guarantee supply.

    We are discussing with companies in China, we are discussing with companies in Turkey, so these people who need the raw material are talking to us and our platform is one that will tell you the aggregate supply that we have to meet at any time to meet t your demand across the board.

     

  • At 60 Olatunji says, God has been good to me

    Prof Rotimi Williams Olatunji, the Dean School of communication at the lagos state University, Ojo was 60 recently, in this interview with OLAYINKA OYEGBILE, deputy editor, he talks about what it life means, education and other matters.

    What and how does it feel to be 60?

    To God be the Glory. Looking back to the past 59 years of my life, I can only but marvel at God’s goodness, blessings and faithfulness. My life remains but a bountiful yet beautiful gift from God all the way.

    With the benefits of hindsight do you think there are things you’ve left undone before now?

    The path that I now thread was cut out for me by God. It is in a man to plan his ways, it is for God to direct his paths. Every single moment of my life has been fruitfully invested and divinely blessed. I started my Primary School education at age six, in January 1966, just some few days away to January 15, the first military Coup, and the infamous Nigerian civil war.

    My transition to the Secondary School took place when Nigeria transited from January to December school calendar year to September to June school year in 1973. I completed my Secondary education in 1978, and was privileged to have been one of the first set of Nigerians that sat for the Joint Admission and Matriculation Board (JAMB) Examination the same year. When my admission letter did not come early, I sat as a private candidate, for the General School Certificate (Advance Level) in 1979, with passes in Economics and Government. From there, I proceeded to the Oyo State (now Osun) College of Education, Ila Orangun, also as one of the pioneer students. And although I had desired to read Law at the University of Ife, I ended up with a Bachelor’s degree (Archaeology) with a First Class Honours degree. The rest is now history. To the glory of God, I have no regrets at all, for the current Professorial status that God has elevated me. I recall a feature article I wrote on graduation from the Secondary School. I had said, if I had to choose a career, it is either law or journalism. Happily, my career has now peaked with the latter, albeit as a Professor of public relations and advertising.

    When you look back at your life do you think the youth of nowadays are better placed than during your time?

    Every generation has to discover its mission, fulfil it or abdicate. Growing up, our own generation clearly identified the need to enthrone democracy and institutionalize a just and humane society through political activism,  provision of trade union education to conscientize the labour movement in Nigeria, hold leadership accountable for their misdeeds through street protests, media campaigns and formation of political discussion groups even during the wasted years of military rule.

    I was privileged to be an underground radical political activist since 1979, with leaders such as Femi Falana (now a SAN) coming to speak to us on our campuses; Comrade Femi Aborisade Esq who introduced me to the late Comrade Ola Oni and the leftist movement; worked underground when Lanre Arogundade was NANS President, the likes of Segun Sango, Oluminde Fusika (now a SAN), Kehinde Bamigbetan, and the rest of that radical bent. Our movement may not have succeeded in entirely changing the status quo, but we served as a beacon of hope for progressively minded Nigerians. We still remain disciplined, focused and humanistic in our dispositions and aspirations. Many of us in that group are still individuals of high integrity. I am proud of that group of Nigerians. Today’s youths need to discover and fulfil their own mission. The future is here and the youths must take up the challenge of progressively changing the society. Ours remains a generation that seeks the ideals for the society. This is the way to go for today’s youths. Seek the good of the larger number; sacrifice for the good of all.

    As a moulder of young minds are we preparing them enough for challenges of tomorrow?

    During our youthful days, we had mentors, the like of Comrade Ola Oni, Professor Claude Ake, Professor Nzimiro, Dr Bala Usman, Prof Fasina, and the rest of that group of intelligential. But we went beyond the lessons we learnt from them. We had political study groups and we were constantly reading and discussing radical cum progressive literature materials, just so we were able to equip ourselves with deep knowledge about politics, the economy, international affairs, philosophy, and the Nigerian society as a whole. How much nearer to these pursuits are today’s youths?  There is need for every generation to equip itself for the challenges of its era. Education, self-education, learning, re-learning and unlearning are all that a generation needs if it must exert any positive impact on the course of history. Empowerment? Yes. But self-empowerment is the most enduring route for any generation, young or old.

    The National Universities Commission (NUC) recently unbundled Mass Communication education and degree into several disciplines, is this not coming a bit late?

    The unbundling of the Mass Communication curriculum into seven distinct disciplines has come when the entire stakeholders seem to be ready for it. For us at the Lagos State University (LASU) School of Communication, we started out in July 2000 with seven distinct Communication disciplines. But it appeared then that we were light years ahead of the regulators, who compelled LASU to revert at the time to a Bachelor’s degree in Mass Communication. However, the rejected stone has now become the chief cornerstone. Happily, the industry is ready for this unbundled communication disciplines. Institutions of learning are ready for it; our regulators are equally ready. Therefore, there is no better time to unbundle Mass Communication than now.

    Are our university degrees targeted at producing job seekers or creators? How do we change the narratives?

    For us at LASU School of Communication, our philosophy is anchored on turning out graduates who are intellectuals, innovators and entrepreneurs who are contributing to the growth of the society and the economy and in all areas of life through diversified knowledge and skills. Some graduates may end up as employees; others are most prominent in the creative industries. Check us out the media industry is populated with graduates from the LASU School of Communication, just as there are a good number working in organized private sector and in the public sector of the economy. Our graduates are making positive impact in all spheres of our national life, even globally, within two decades of our existence. I am proud to be a part of the process.

    Global economy requires more and more of knowledge and skills acquisition, most especially media and information literacy. There is a dire need for innovation and entrepreneurship. The unbundled mass Communication curricula address these areas. This is the way to go.  Emphasis should shift to the deployment of media knowledge and skills to develop the society, create new job opportunities, improve societal wellbeing, reduce poverty and truly build a self-reliant people and self-reliant nation. The creative industries and information communication technologies

  • A fire-fighter must surrender himself for other people’s happiness

    Former Director, Lagos State Fire Service, Razak Fadipe, shares some of his memorable moments, challenges and journey to the top with YETUNDE OLADEINDE.

    What inspired you to join the Fire Service?

    I was interested in touching lives. I wanted to serve humanity. Initially, I tried to get a job with the Nigerian Police Force but it didn’t work out. So, when the opportunity came, I joined the Fire Service. Aside that, an outbreak of fire at Balogun market back when I was in primary school also inspired me.

    The firemen that came to battle the inferno that day could not gain access and they had to turn to another area within a twinkle of an eye. The driver manoeuvred in such a way that the people applauded him. That inspired me greatly.

    Tell us about the very first operation you participated in?

    I may not be able to remember vividly. There was an outbreak of fire that involved an insurance firm. I remember people shouting ‘water, water.’ I ran quickly to the pump but one of the senior officers pulled me back, asking if the man with the hose was ready. I checked and saw that he was not. If the hose was not connected to the pump, the force would have affected him. Gradually, I started gaining experience, working with committed and hardworking officers. They reshaped me and directed my path. Each time we went to the fire scene, they were prepared. They never waited to go through the door. If the window was the first option, they went through determined to save lives.

    There was also a terrible incident. Then, I was Director of Fire Service. That day, I was sick and I went to the clinic, where they gave me some drugs.

    I went home, took the drugs and went to bed. I had given my phones to my wife and was about sleeping, when my wife came in telling me that they had been trying to reach me on phone because there was a fire outbreak. It was a high-rise building. I told her that I wasn’t going, that the job was becoming problematic. The time was around 10.30pm; but she encouraged me to go and prayed for me.

    It’s a job is full of criticism but when you do your work with dedication, success is sure. Even the number one citizens in Lagos State, Gov. Babatunde Fashola and Akinwunmi Ambode commended my service. For Fashola, the slogan was that the reward for hard work is more work. In the process, lots of plaques and commendation also came.

    Tell us about your journey to the top?

    I joined immediately after secondary school as a recruit of Level 04 and rise to number one position. I spent 35 years. I must tell you that I am the first person to rise to the peak of Level 17. And while I was there, I kept the state safe.

    I went to further my education five years after. I saw an advert that a particular school in Imo was offering a course in fires service. I travelled all the way to Aba. No other institution in Nigeria offered the course. Then I went to the university to further my education. I was on Level 8. People kept wondering what I was looking for. It was right after I finished that the government came up with the policy change that if you do not have a degree, you cannot rise. That was how I started having edges over others. From number thirty-something on the nominal roll, I was picked to be Assistant Director.

    What are some of the hazards on the job?

    There are lots of criticisms because people only remember the things you do wrong. Where there is an emergency, people would start packing their personal belongings before calling us and the fire would have gained impetus. The spirit behind the fire is that if it is burning a freezer, it is radiating the other things. And even when we get there, they would be stoning or fighting us. On several occasion, they have wounded our men. People also forget that no matter the amount of water you bring, it would get exhausted and you would have to go and get another. On several occasions, we got to the hospital with our injured men, and they refused to support us. Then I got a circular that any accident that happens, our men should be attended to immediately. You need to be dedicated on the job; and I used to tell my men to quickly dispatch, get to the scene and save lives. When you have dedicated officers, you can do your work well.

    Is there a synergy between the state and federal fire service?

    I would tell you the truth. There is no synergy. We have the same way of operations but many times when there is a call and they get to the scene before us; by the time they exhaust their water, rather than replenish, they just stand back and say, ‘It is your state and leave.’ Sometimes, we quarrel at the scene of emergency. But with the new helmsman, things are better. However, I think there should be collaborative efforts. Our priority should be to save lives and properties.

     What’s your advice to young people who want to join the Fire Service?

    The interest to serve humanity must be there. It shouldn’t be because you didn’t get another job. It was during my time that I recruited graduates. I told them they must go out and not just sit in the office. Secondly, it is not a place that you want to come and make money. That should not be the motive. Peradventure, if God says doors would open; no problem. You must surrender yourself to make others happy. It is not a place for eye-service or lazy people. If you are lazy on emergency ground, anything can happen. But if you are dedicated, as you are saving lives, God will save you. Experience has shown that those who dodge responsibility get into danger. Besides, your superiors are watching you.

  • A day in the life of the fire-fighter

    Fire-fighters are not called into action everyday. But when their attention is required, it’s always a time full of drama. Assistant Editor YETUNDE OLADEINDE gets some servicing and retired fire-fighters to recount some of their unforgettable experiences.

    Fire accidents occur all the time. It is usually unforeseen and could be very fierce, consuming and lethal. But there are some professionals, whose responsibility it is to respond, however unexpected. This group of people think and dream fire twenty-four hours; and it does not matter whether they just got into bed, are about having a meal or personal calamity just befell them. Sometimes, they even become casualties; but like they say – a job is a job. Welcome to the unpredictable world of fire-fighters.

    The good, the bad and the ugly

    That old movie title aptly captures the experience of Oriola Soyede, who has put in about 26 years in the job. A jolly good fellow by nature, Soyede has moved around the fire service sector quite well, working in so many stations and departments in Lagos, Abuja and other parts of the country.

    “I started from Operations, moved to the Workshop, where we serviced the vehicles; next I went to the training school as Instructor, Security and Transport Department.”

    Now back in Operations, Soyede says, “One memorable experience for me would be while I was serving at Awolowo Road, Ikoyi Fire Station. We got a call; it was the case of a popular female pilot, who lived alone because her family lived in London. She had come on holiday and the male chef and driver connived to kill her. They strangled her while she was cooking in the kitchen, broke a part of the soak-away pit, threw her in there and sealed it up with cement. The investigation officer was very young and didn’t quite know what to do. Then he called someone with experience and he advised them to check the soak-away.

    “It was broken and they saw the woman’s lifeless body there. That was when they called us. We got there and it was a very emotional scene, as everyone was crying. It was the fire service men that removed the woman’s body from the septic tank.”

    That must have been a tough assignment. How did they rise up to the challenge? “We have been trained to save human life and properties. We just had to do it. When we retrieved the body, the hospital people took over.” He replied, almost dismissively.

    Another memorable experience on the job for Oriola was a fire incident that happened on a seven-storey building on Burma Road, Apapa.

    “Whilst we were fighting the fire, all of a sudden I predicted that the building was going to come down. I told my people to come down and we went in another direction to fight the fire. Area boys however stormed the place; all along, they had not given us enough space to work. Along the line, the area boys hijacked a branch from one of our men and I told him to leave it for them.

    “People were running in different directions, looting the office complex. They had different types of generators and the area boys were carting away goods, pretending to be helping. Within a twinkle of an eye, an air-conditioner fell, exploded and landed on top of one of the area boys. He died instantly, while the man who was holding the hose had a slight cut on his arm.”

    That was a real close shave for Oriola and his men. Like a cat with nine lives, they have survived several such odds, unlike some of their colleagues who were not so lucky. “Sometimes, you go to volatile areas like Mushin, Idi-Araba or Itire and you see miscreants all over the place. The truth of the matter is that it takes time to receive a call from our control room and more to turn up. But usually they don’t want to understand this. Sometimes, they would be throwing stones at us and we may have to try to save our own lives. So, everyone would just run away.”

    Akpokhiya Kabiru’s journey into fire service is an offshoot of his parents’ opposition to his original love – the police force.

    “I wanted to join the police initially but my parents refused because they didn’t quite like the idea. I had an uncle who was a director in the Fire Service and he gave me an option of joining the service in Lagos. I have been working for 34 years at the Surulere Fire Station.”

    Recalling how it all started after his four months basic course at the training school, Akpokhiya said, “I started with zeal and determination to do the job. My salary then was N140 a month and it was good money. We used to buy a tin of garri for N5 and I used to spend about N100 taking care of my parents and younger siblings, while I saved about N40. It was easy to save then.”

    Going down memory lane, Akpokhiya said, “The day I finished from the training school and was posted to the station, we had a rescue operation at Ijora Crossing. A fully-loaded 911 Molue went into a moving train and it was crushed. It was a fatal accident – a gory sight to behold. Almost all the passengers on board were victims.”

    He continued: “I was in a bus when my boss asked me to carry somebody whose body had been cut into two. It was my very first experience and I was soaked in blood. But the courage as well as obedience to our superior officers motivated me to carry out the task. Since that day, I have been emboldened; my courage and determination went to a higher dimension.

    “There was another rescue operation at Bode Thomas. That day, we were able to save a lot of hard currency from the scene of call. For the active role I played, a report came in my name to our headquarters in Abuja and I was called to be presented as the best Fire Fighter of the year in 2000.”

    Twenty years after, you want to know what the award meant to him and he replied this way: “I went to Abuja and had a honourable handshake with the minister, then Alhaji Lateef Jakande. I was also given a cash gift and a colour television. At that time, coloured TV was new and my children were excited.”

    What about the hazards? You ask.  “There used to be a lot of building collapse during fire incidents and we go to our operations with the mind of salvaging lives and properties without any hidden agenda. So, God is always saving our lives.”

    He recalled a close shave and how he survived. “I remember the day a framed glass fell on my head and I had this deep cut at the back of my head. I was rushed to the hospital and was on admission for about two weeks. Apart from that, I haven’t encountered any serious hazard on the job.”

    Asked if the Fire Service has the necessary tools to work with, Akpokhiya said: “Yes. We used to have problems of facilities to work with but this present administration has done a lot and we don’t have problems with that.”

    The discussions moved to the recent fire incident at Amu market, Mushin and the complaints that they came with half tank of water, and he responds: “That is a very wrong impression because we normally check the level of our tanks and hand over full tanks. As you go out, the more you discharge, the more the water would go down. The problem we have is that there are no places to refill the tanks on time. Usually, we have to go all the way to Breweries, Ijora or come down to our station here to refill the tank.”

    One other major challenge that hinders their work, according to Akpokhiya is traffic. “In Nigeria, people disobey sirens. It is not like that in the western world. We also have the challenge of not properly presenting the address of the scene. Someone would call and just tell you there is fire in Mushin, without giving you the address, and then you end up going round and round before locating the scene.”

    You wonder what goes on in the minds of their wives and children each time they go out and he recalls some of their anxieties and more. “The interesting thing is that many of our wives are also joining the fire service. So, you have a number of families where the husband, wife and children are in the profession.”

    Just before he goes, Kabiru tells you about some of the enlightenment done to inform members of the public on how they can be reached. “Our numbers are usually written on the body of our vehicles and there are opportunities for young people who want to come in. To them I would say, ‘prepare your mind for the zeal of fire fighting because there is reward for what you do.’ Apart from the salary, the fact that you are helping your endangered neighbour makes it a patriotic job.”

    Henry Osarewa who hails from Edo state is one of such examples. “I have been working as a fire fighter for about 27 years and I should retire by 2024. My elder brother who introduced me to the fire service also retired from the profession. Interestingly, I didn’t like the job initially. The money was just too small but somehow my people convinced me. When I got in, I discovered that it was good, one of the best jobs. There is no corruption in the Fire Service; I would advise anyone looking for job for their children to put them in the fire service. Things are getting better and the money is coming up.”

    Recalling some of his memorable experience, Henry said, “My very first operation was in 2004. That was the fire at the 17-floor UBA headquarters in Marina. It was burning underground. When we got there, the man that I was following was my brother’s friend. He asked me to follow him because I had no experience. We went underground and saw four generators in flames. We were putting them off, one after the other.”

    “Unfortunately, the flames had claimed a lady’s life when we got there. We had to first bring her out. Then the Airport department had great equipment and they brought their helicopters but they couldn’t land.”

    The smoke, he recalled was just too much and the flames covered the whole building. “My boss asked me to give him the slack and as we were laying it, he was moving ahead of me. If you are in an enclosed environment, you don’t stand when you are fighting fire.”

    He said some of the hazards from fire incidents include chemicals and in those days, the gadgets required weren’t available. “But now, our boss, Mr Liman, from Niger State is giving us the best. We have more vehicles. You have to be smart and vigilant on the job. Even while wearing your boots, you can step on a long nail and you will have to remove your boot quickly.”

    For Choice Ojoko, a female fire fighter, it is the best job ever. “I would say that it is a wonderful job and the experience has been great with a focus on humanitarian service to others. You render your service to everyone and restore hope.”

    Ojoko who has been on the job for 26 years, says, “It’s been very interesting and like every other job, you have the good, bad, sweet and bitter sides.”

    Going down memory lane, she said, “I was at the fire incident at NNPC, Falomo some years back. It was a terrible experience. On that fateful day, a glass fell on one of my senior colleagues. I must say though that every job is like that. It’s a combination of the good, the bad and the ugly. Sometimes, the world itself is a risk.”

    Ojoko continued: “I am proud to be a fire fighter, I am proud of my job, no matter the challenge. Going out, going to the market or anywhere is a risk. So, I usually put everything in the hand of God. It is God that gives and takes. But we pray for better things to come our way.”

    New men on the block

    A number of young people have been joining the fire service. One of them is Adeoye Mubashiru, who is about rounding off his training at the training school. “It is a safety job and I see a great future ahead for me and my other colleagues. My brother is also a fire fighter and he motivated me to join. I just joined the service last year, in July and we are still doing our IT. Our commissioning comes up in February 2020.”

    I almost quit at training – former Head of Service

    Rasaki Musibau from Omojoda Odo Ayan in Epe joined the Lagos Fire Service on July 2nd 1984 and served for 35 years.

    Recalling his years of service, he said, “I have so many unforgettable memories. This includes the rigorous 6 months basic fireman training, rigorous fire drills, inter station, drills activities aimed at preparing firemen for various fire and rescue operations.”

    He singled out completing his training as one of his interesting memories. “Another is the day I took over the mantle of Leadership as Head of Service. My first operation was a rescue operation at Ojodu, where a man fell into a deep well of about 120 feet and we rescued him alive. I was particularly happy to be part of the team that responded to that call and I saw my interest of joining the Fire Service being fulfilled.”

    “At that time, rescue operations were performed with crude methods because of lack of modern rescue equipment.”

    Somehow, he recalled that he felt like quitting when the training became too rigorous. But the fact that female trainees were coping made him summon courage to continue and complete the training.

    “I served in most sections of the Fire Service like Operations, Training School as instructor, Fire Prevention, Project Office as Project Officer and Admin, before my glorious exit as Director and Head of Fire Service.”

  • Taaooma: How my skits caused rift between mum and my boyfriend

    21 year-old, Maryam Apaokagi popularly known as Taaooma, was born in Ilorin but spent most of her years growing up in Namibia.

    The comedy skit content provider who came back to Nigeria for her university education also got interested in cinematography and has been producing skits for some time. In this interview with SAMPSON UNAMKA, she speaks on her motivations, challenges, among other isssues related to producing skits. Enjoy

    How long have you been doing skits and how were you able to balance school and skit production?

    About five years now. It has not been easy at all because I had to come home from school every weekend to shoot skits and go back to school to edit. I had to try my best to be stable on both sides. Trust me, it’s not easy but then Allahmdulilah I sailed through.

    You have a degree in Tourism and Travel Services Management, why not theatre arts?

    Yes, I have a degree in Tourism. While choosing a course, I didn’t mind which course I would be given. I just wanted to finish the school with a degree because the course I had always wanted was Law and since I was told it was not available that time I just went for anything.

    How did you come up with your concept?

    I reminisce on things mums do/did sometimes, and sometimes I observe things around me to give me ideas. From there, I initiate my idea same as Taaooma’s role and my husband’s role (Kunle)

    Your style is different, what inspires your skits?

    God is my biggest inspiration, then my mom and my boyfriend, Abula. They inspire me to keep going and keep doing more. If I see these two people around me when I am doing any skit trust me it’s a goal already.

    How do you manage to take three parts at once and how long does it take to produce a skit? Do you have a team or it’s just you that runs the whole production process from shooting to final production?

    The multi character part seems to be the most challenging, especially when I have to show them all in the same shot. When I like a skit so much, I can shoot and get it ready in five hours. But normally, I spend 2-3 days for a proper production.

    Most of the time, I shoot myself but sometimes when my boyfriend is around, he helps me shoot. He’s a popular Nigerian music video director, Abuja.

    All my edits are done by me. I only get help for the shooting once in a while.

    Are your parents in support of what you do?

    Haaa this same Nigerian parents we all have?

    Parents do not support these things at first. At first, my mom didn’t like it. She felt it wasn’t a good thing to do. It even caused a little rift between her and my boyfriend but he was later able to convince her it’s not a big deal.

    My dad is very fine with it. So far I keep my morals and don’t get naked.

    Mistakes you’ve made that you won’t make again if you were to start afresh?

    Not checking the best times to upload my videos, or having the patience to make all things perfect for shoot in terms of location, costume, make up, etc. I have made these mistakes several times and I have learnt from it that tiny details do matter a lot and what is worth doing is worth doing well.

    What do you have to say to people that are trying the same thing but not getting it?

    It is not easy. It gets frustrating; you will feel like giving up but keep pushing and working tirelessly. Dreams come true.

    One major thing: you must believe in yourself and be you.

    Do you plan your skits or it just comes with the flow?

    Most times I don’t plan it, it just comes and I quickly shoot so that the zeal won’t go away. For example, like the day I slapped my husband when I wanted to slap my brother (Tao). I just thought of it that I should slap Tao someday and funny enough Tao dodged the slap and I slapped his dad.

    Obstacles you’ve faced and how did you deal with them?

    Cyber bullies; one thing that’s very common in the industry right now. But then, Alhamudulilah,  I just ignore them or block them.

    Recently on Twitter, some assertions have been made that some of your skits promote child abuse with the way you slap Tao continuously. Is there anything you’ll want to clear up?

    A lot of people do not understand that the slap is just a signature I have added to the skit. It is there to make the skit very humorous.

    Will you say Kemi Adetiba is promoting gun violence for her movie, King of Boys? No. These skits are purely for entertainment.

    Funnily enough, most of these people shouting child abuse were duly spanked by their parents (typical Nigerian).

    Don’t be deceived by the sound effect of the slap. It’s very fake (original fake).

    How do your friends and family see your works? Have you thought of acting full time?

    They all love it and most of them have my videos on their phones. They are always the first to share whenever I drop a new skit. Funnily enough, when I am with some friends and family they ask me to act the IYA TAO’S role. I don’t have any choice than to act that way so they can laugh and let me rest.

    What’s the average time it takes you to make a skit?

    It depends on my mood. Sometimes I can spend 2-3days to make some skits. So it ranges from five hours to 11 hours to make a complete DOPE skits.

    Your comedy reflects the humour of maternal discipline… will you say your childhood influences your work?

    Yes, my childhood has a very big influence on my videos. My mom is a strict no-nonsense woman (disciplinarian for that matter). She respects value and morals a lot. I got a few spankings from her here and there but not the way I portray it in my skits. My skits are highly exaggerated to make it funnier (making everyone happy is the goal).

    How do you picture your journey into Nollywood? A lot of people think you are an actress…What’s next after comedy?

    Haaaaaaaa actress? If they say so. If they are happy I am happy, but then

    there are ongoing plans to make a full feature movie that will make you my wonderful fans laugh so much that……

    Abula and I own a company called The Greenade Company. It’s a full time video production company and part of the plan is to make big movies in coming years.

    Patience Ozokwor or Joke Silva?

    They are both my favourites ooooo.  Mumy Joke kind of action though (smiles). I want to have it, so somebody like Tao can respect me.  Muma G’s kind of principle my mummy (Iya Tao) needs it to deal it with my daddy every time.