Category: Sunday Interview

  • Adebukola Obafunso: My success wasn’t by luck

    While most young and good-looking ladies opt for modelling and other white collar jobs, Adebukola Obafunso decided to go for the unusual by following her heart. In her early thirties founder of Freesia Foodies, who finished school over a decade ago, decided to go into full time events planning, having had passion for cooking. In this interview with Dupe Ayinla-Olasunkanmi, she speaks on her passion, success, among other challenges.

    What was the path you took to get to where you are today?

    I loved events. The people – clients, vendors, spaces to decorate etc., especially weddings. I loved it completely but alas on my youngest sister’s 25th birthday, she had pleaded with me to manage her event and also cook for her. Cooking also was and remains my passion and I did it for free in university and all. I told her I couldn’t as I would be too busy handling her events. She wouldn’t take no for an answer, so we settled on me cooking the Thai meals and she let me outsource the Nigerian meals. We both agreed and Viola! everyone at the party kept asking— who made these Thai delicacies?  She would drag me to each table saying, ‘guys, this is the woman you’ve all been asking about. She’s also the planner by the way.’ They all wanted my card but the card stated (event planner) and a lot of them were like (do you have a catering card?). I tried explaining cooking was just a passion and I didn’t do it professionally. They took the card anyway and I got so many calls afterwards. I had to sit down with one of my cousins who advised that perhaps I should start with training people on how to cook. That so many ladies would definitely want to learn particularly because I explained I couldn’t juggle catering for parties with events planning.

    I tried that, surprisingly there was a good turnout. One class led to two and, eventually, events planning took the back seat while food took the driver’s seat. My passion for food consumed me totally. I was still involved with people- training from events management came in a lot handy. I started training in my kitchen at home but in a little over a year, the space became too small for my students and I began to look for a space. It was surreal. My friends, family and everyone who knew me would say, ‘oh my God, Buki, you were born to do this or how come it took you so long to do this!’

    Eventually, I got a space; a three-bedroom apartment in Opebi Ikeja, Lagos, and procured the services of an interior designer to transform the apartment into a kitchen studio. In less than four months, I had the studio opening. Loads of clients from events management days were present, friends, family and even alumni of my cooking class from my kitchen at home.

    Why did you want to be a CEO of a company?

    The actual journey of CEO started from there. I had to employ more staff, manage more people, bills for bigger and so did the intake of jobs. Soon we started making lunch packs and then gradually into party catering (I dropped a proposal at my former work place) and my boss was so impressed about my growth. I was given the contract to cater for all their office functions, end of year parties etc.

    What do you feel is the biggest strength of your company right now?

    Our biggest strength is training individuals on how to improve Nigerian home cooking for home use and also individuals who want to learn how to turn their passion for cooking into a business (catering outfit).

    The goal is to change the perspective of many about to cooking. To make cooking more fun with individuals and even amongst their families, home and abroad. We also don’t train only Nigerians but foreigners who are married to Nigerians and want to learn how to cook Nigerian meals for their spouses, partners and family. The goal is to place Nigerian food on a global forefront.

    We ventured into exports on Nigerian foods (we call it “fine foods”). These are basically fried food stuff, vegetables, fruits, oils, among others, across the UK, USA, EU, Canada and some other parts of the world.  This feat has been very challenging over the year especially with customs, having to deal with clients across the world with different time zones, currency constraints. But as days grew into months and into years, we have successfully mastered that angle of the business and it’s been a relatively smooth sail since.

    As an entrepreneur and a young one, how do you deal with difficult clients?

    Some of the major difficulty situations I’ve encountered would be with clients and my staff. I believe it somewhat boils down to people’s management. One of the business tools shared in our culinary school when venturing into the business. It is paramount to polish and acquire this skill as it comes in handy in myriad aspects.

    Displeasure of service rendered to clients can perhaps make them send you some derogatory and snide remarks. Trust me, you can’t escape difficult clients. In fact, they make you stronger and help you gain more wisdom in management.

    What have been the biggest challenges you’ve had to overcome?

    Some of the greatest challenges I faced when starting Freesia Foodies was staffing. Oh boy, it was almost impossible getting good staff. Then when you get some, you train them and they leave. You start asking yourself (why invest so much in a staff when eventually they might leave). It took me a while to figure out that to curtail and prevent a recurrence; more than one staff should be responsible for a certain task and also have more who understudy too. Constant socioeconomic constraints, market prices affect the business enormously, especially when there’s a surge but quite impossible to tweak already given quotes.

    What will you say is responsible for your success?

    I would say my success wasn’t luck. It was time seizing opportunity by the horns and taking it for a wild and eventful ride. With the cocky of the 3Ds guiding my every step:

    DRIVE – I was thirsty to succeed and would stop at nothing. I ensured I sought knowledge to make my passion a business. Polished my skill and now enabling other individuals the same.

    DETERMINATION- I pushed even when the hole seemed like a needle’s eye for a grain of rice. I didn’t stop when the challenges seemed overwhelming. I found new ways to do things better. I was determined to make Freesia Foodies a success and a brand to reckon with home and abroad. I pulled all my resources into it and dedicated a lot of my time and energy.

    DISCIPLINE— it’s very easy to get carried away when you become successful. The complacency habit creeps up without one realising it. I never stopped toiling, won’t have my head in the clouds… still thinking about new and emerging ideas to push my brand out more.

    The discipline to be focus on the goal and not deflect with the drunkenness of success. It’s an arduous task but one must stay alert…. these plausible Ds have been my companion since the birth of Freesia Foodies and still is. I would say any new entrepreneur or existing ones can adopt the method.  See if it works for you but I bet you – it would!

    Would you say the food business is a lucrative one to take a risk at?

    The food business is a very lucrative one. It can be underestimated though. Many run away with the misconception that since it’s just food, it can’t be that difficult. It’s even more difficult because you have to understand the human stomach.

    What A likes is definitely different from B. What might tickle B today would irk B tomorrow. How do you navigate constant change in consumer wants? How the food trend glides and how customers flow with it. The digital evolution has made things more vibrant and interesting yet also created a compulsion in businesses to shift their modules to follow suit…. so many factors to be considered before going into the food business now and that’s where our culinary school kicks in. We equip individuals and help them comprehend the technicalities of the trade. It’s not just about passion. It’s about honing that passion with the right team and turning it into a striving business/career.

    Tell us about growing up and your journey into becoming an entrepreneur

    I finished school over a decade ago and started work immediately after serving with NYSC Jos and Ibadan. I got a job as sales representative with an oil servicing company which was pretty good but I’ve always had the underlying need and head for business. I was into the apparel business in university. I sold designer clothes, shoes, bags, belts etc. Then, people called my best friend and I the school clothiers.

    So when I heard the company was downsizing, I went to an events management school to learn how to be an events manager just in case I was among the ones to be relieved. Albeit, I dropped my resume with few other companies too at the time but business was basically where my heart was.  I knew I was good with people, loved organising and beautifying spaces etc. I was still working when I finished training at the academy and had started taking few jobs on the side.

    One or two jobs turned to three to four and then to a lot so much so that I couldn’t handle work and my business simultaneously. I got to the point where one had to go. It wasn’t such a hard decision because while in that dilemma, I got the letter from the company and my story into entrepreneurship changed henceforth.

  • Bayelsans need to apologise to Sylva over injustice – Okah

    Jonah Okah the pioneer director in the Directorate of Legal Services at the Bayelsa State Georgraphical Information System, was a close aide to Timipre Sylva when he was governor of Bayelsa State.  In this interview with Ben Obinwa Nnaji, he spoke on how he suffered persecution because of his relationship with Sylva, the current Minister of State for Petroleum Resources. Excerpts

    Let me first take you on the government of which you up served as speechwriter to then Governor Timipre Sylva, now Minister of State, Petroleum Resources. What is your objective view on the person and capacity of Timipre Sylva in terms of public service delivery?

    Without any bias and sentiment, having worked closely with him as his speechwriter, Sylva is a selfless leader. He loves his friends more than his friends love him.

    Sylva can give out his last meal to his friends. He can inconvenience himself for the comfort of his friends. He can give his friends what he can’t do for his biological relatives.

    Yet, he has been betrayed and backstabbed by persons he thought were his trusted friends and close allies and the more they do, the more he forgives them. That spirit of forgiveness has become more of his strength spiritually and in corporal terms.

    That is his guiding spirit in growing from strength to strength. He has very deep fear of God.

    As a human, Sylva may have his foibles, but he is a kind-hearted man.

    On the other hand, Sylva is an intellectual. I had this special encounter with him as governor. Having prepared his speech for a programme, he took a look at it with the eye of an eagle. He attempted and insisted on making some changes. I simply smiled at him with all sense of civility without confronting him that what he was trying to effect a change in the speech was wrong, I rather looked straight into his eyes and said; ”Your Excellency, in my candid opinion, we will be over flowing if we effect the change you are suggesting”.

    The then governor looked at me, simply nodded and allowed the speech to remain the way it was.

    He is a good listener to good opinions and ideas. That is the strength of character of a good leader which he has demonstrated time without number in his public service to this nation.

    Look at the Petroleum Resources Ministry; he has initiated fundamental reforms at the ministry within the short period he took over as the Minister of State. I can assure you that by the time he leaves that ministry, he will leave behind a shoe too big for any other future minister to wear.

    Sylva is a man who sees the future and he doesn’t allow pedestrian issues to distract him.

    While he was governor, the general opinion was that he did not perform well and that was the reason he was denied a second term.

    That is for another day. However, let me seize this opportunity to state the obvious for the record.

    Sylva was a victim of power game right from the day he got the ticket of PDP to run for the office of governor. Some of the people involved in the power game in Bayelsa State believed then and till now that it is either them or nobody else. He is a child of destiny and a man after God’s own heart. I have a strong conviction that the second tenure which he was denied will one day be fulfilled. It is a question of time; it may be delayed but God’s time will present itself in the fullness of time.

    When he took over as governor, he gave out 85 percent of his cabinet appointments to critical stakeholders, yet the political hawks were not satisfied and continued to blackmail his administration.

    Within one year in office, the Sylva administration constructed over 50 internal roads at a sweep, which was unprecedented in the history of this country. The contracts were awarded to local contractors to boost the economy of the state and avoid capital flight; he also built one of the best judicial complexes in the country. He built the Nigerian Law School of Yenagoa Campus, the education subsector received the best and urgent attention in the history of Bayelsa State and so many life transforming projects. Today, even his detractors who blackmailed him are regretting.

    The federation allocation then was between N2.5 to N3 billion. It took a lot of ingenuity to even pay state workers. He entrenched transparency and accountability in governance.

    At the time he took over as governor of Bayelsa State, it was the peak of militancy in the Niger Delta, with Bayelsa as the epic entre. The Amnesty programme, which has brought about relative peace in the Niger Delta, was initiated by Timipre Sylva.

    He prepared a memo to the then President Musa Yar’Adua on why the militants in the Niger Delta should be given amnesty. This was coming at a time the price of crude oil was at its lowest ebb and Yar’Adua administration was about to confront the militants with fire power. Sylva saved the situation by the singular memo he wrote to President Yar’Adua which set the tone for historic laying down of arms ceremony in Yenagoa.

    In spite of these landmark achievements, the same PDP government denied him second term.

    Power is given by God, I believe strongly that one day Sylva will return to complete that second tenure to correct that injustice done against him.

    So the warped opinion that Sylva didn’t perform was more or less part of the power game script written by the powers that be at that time just to give a dog a bad name in order to hang him.

    Today, the general verdict in Bayelsa is that Sylva has been vindicated as the man who took over, that is, Governor Henry Seriake Dickson, who came with the messianic toga, did not achieve one tenth of what Sylva achieved as governor of the State. Bayelsans need to apologise to Sylva over the injustice. It is no understatement to state the obvious that Sylva is the political bride in Niger Delta and represents the light at the end of the tunnel in the politics of development in Bayelsa and Niger Delta as a whole.

    What’s your take on the challenges before the governor-elect, Chief David Lyon?

    Let me first say this, the emergence of David Lyon as governor elect of Bayelsa State is the handiwork of God. It is a divine mandate and a culmination of the fervent prayers of Bayelsans who wanted change. Like the Biblical David who was a shepherd in the forest and the least to be considered, God made a choice and that choice is David Lyon.

    The outgoing governor Seriake Dickson mocked him following his emergence as candidate of the All Progressive Congress, APC, by describing him as a toothless lion. But when God says yes, certainly nobody can say no. Today, in few days’ time, he will be sworn in as governor of the state.

    I enjoin all Bayelsans to support him in driving the development process.

    You had a running battle with the outgoing government of Dickson administration which led to your arrest and incarceration. What actually led to all that?

    I’m working on a book on the issue with details. My arrest and incarceration was directly connected with my relationship with the Minister of State for Petroleum Resources, Chief Timipre Sylva, whom I served as speechwriter and personal aide while he served as governor of Bayelsa State. Before now, way back to 2001, I had a personal relationship with Governor Dickson whom we fondly called H.S, which stands for Henry Seriake. At that time, I was a broadcast journalist and news editor with Bayelsa State Broadcasting Corporation.

    He was introduced to me by a mutual friend while he was the State Chairman of Alliance for Democracy (AD) which he conducted himself as the official opposition against the government of late DSP Alamieyeseigha.

    At that time, we struck a relationship. When Sylva was denied second tenure in 2011 and was later removed from office through a judicial cum political coup, I had an encounter with Governor Dickson. I was still working with the then Acting Governor, Binabo, whom I accompanied to the Presidential Lodge where former Senate President David Mark, the then Speaker of the House of Reps and now governor Tambuwal were seated, awaiting the grand finale of the PDP governorship election. To my surprise, Dickson made a surprise remark about me to David Mark and Tambuwal that; “Mr Jonah Okah was the speechwriter to former Governor Sylva and he’s my friend but refused to work with me because of his loyalty to Sylva and he has abandoned me”.

    On that note, I knew I was already a marked man and it would be a question of time he would come after me because of Sylva.

    When Dickson finally took over as governor, he quickly assembled his attack dogs as his media team and they launched unprecedented campaign of calumny, demonization and outright blackmail of former governor Sylva.

    Having worked with Sylva and pained by the campaign of falsehood against him, I couldn’t afford to resist the temptation to defend Sylva whom I regard as my political godfather. My only offence was that I refused to work with Dickson and my preference for defending my boss, Sylva.

    Of course, despite the fact that I was working in the service as a state counsel in the Department of Public Prosecutions, I stuck out my neck to exercise my right of opinion and correct the grossly misleading information about Sylva and his administration. I did it at great risk and I wasn’t surprised when they came after me with trumped up allegation and charge by hacking my facebook account linking me to a publication accusing the Government House accountant of alleged stealing of money. It may interest you to know that I suffered untold prosecution because of my loyalty to Sylva. I was dismissed from service as a State Counsel and I won the case at the National Industrial Court.

    My journalist wife and Assistant Director with the State Broadcasting Corporation was persecuted and punitively denied her legitimate salary for months and further deployed her to Agricultural Development programme, ADP and kept redundant all because of my loyalty to Sylva.

    They asked me to renounce my relationship with Sylva as if I committed a political heresy in standing on the side of Sylva, yet I refused to give in and stood my ground.

    It may interest you to know, that after all the sacrifice I paid for my loyalty, some never do well went about blackmailing me that I had abandoned Sylva and the APC candidate. It was quite a laughable wild imagination, being peddled to achieve their self-serving propaganda. I have forgiven them.

    What is your take on the national security challenges and the call on Mr. President to resign because of the security challenge?

    It is not an over statement to state the obvious that providing security of lives and property and the welfare of people is the primary purpose of government.

    I don’t believe in discussing security issues on the pages of newspaper or news media. We have to be very careful in discussing our national security not to undermine the sovereignty of our nation.

    Security challenge is a global problem. I have no doubt President Muhammadu Buhari is leaving no stone unturned in tackling this national menace.

    We should not politicise it by calling for his resignation. In other civilised climes, the citizens are united in confronting the challenge. Let’s give Mr. President absolute support in dealing with the issue which he has demonstrated unwavering commitment.

    However, I have no hesitation to lend my voice and support to the call on Mr. President to rejig the security architecture by replacing the service chiefs. They have tried their best but it has become evident that diminishing returns have set in.

     

  • PDP: Zoning as Secondus’ litmus test

    As Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) returns to the drawing board to strategise ahead of the 2023 general elections, Assistant Editor, ‘Dare Odufowokan, reports that its national chairman, Prince Uche Secondus is currently under severe pressure as a fierce debate rages within and outside the party over which zone should get its presidential ticket.

    Following the spark he drew early in the year when he allegedly made a statement that was interpreted to mean the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) may do away with the zoning arrangement in determining who will be its presidential candidate in 2023, national chairman of the party, Prince Uche Secondus, has been under immense pressure from both the groups supporting zoning of the 2023 presidential ticket within the party and those opposed to the idea.

    Party sources told The Nation that the raging debate over zoning has become some sort of litmus test for the Rivers state born-politician as many stakeholders within the party are eagerly waiting to know which side he will be favouring ahead of the already unfolding struggle for the 2023 presidential ticket of the opposition party. “The most troubled person in the PDP today is the national chairman. He is almost like between the devil and the deep blue sea over the issue of zoning.

    “Already, our most prominent chieftains are divided down the line over the issue and as the leader of the party, whichever side he supports, he will lose the support of the other side and this means a lot to his continued leadership of the National Working Committee (NWC). Both parties see him as very instrumental to their struggle and as it is, he is barely managing to keep his cards to his chest after one or two statements almost gave him out,” our source claimed.

    The Nation learnt that with the tenure of the Secondus-led NWC ending before the 2023 general election, a lot now depends on how he handles the zoning debate whether he will continue in office or not. “That has even complicated the matter the more. Apart from the fact that many of the party’s kingmakers, including those who made it possible for Secondus to emerge as chairman in 2017, are currently watching every of his moves, some are even calling for his removal to pave way for a northern national chairman in preparation for the emergence of a southern presidential candidate,” another source added.

    A slip or hint?

    It would be recalled that in January, the PDP national chairman made his now famous pronouncement concerning the zoning issue. Speaking on plans by the party to strengthen its structures ahead of future elections, Secondus said “you know the Constitution allows everybody, whether you are from north, whether you are from south, to contest. No one is going to stop anyone from contesting even when it is zoned to a particular region, and I have been talking about this in the past. So, every person still has a right to contest; so, if you are qualified and desire to run for the office of the President you are free to contest.”

    While quickly adding that the party is at the moment more concerned with rebuilding it than zoning of 2023 presidential ticket, he said the issue of zoning would be looked into at the appropriate time. He said, “Today we are more concerned in rebuilding our party. When the time comes for the nomination of a Presidential candidate the party will come out with its position. Our focus is in making sure that our party is strong and viral and ready to win elections.”

    But the import of his claims that the party may not bar contestant from any part of the country was not lost on pro zoning agitators within the party. Expectedly, not a few condemned the statement while warning against any attempt to throw open the contest, insisting that the presidential ticket must be zoned to the southern part of the country in accordance with the party’s unwritten gentlemen’s zoning arrangement.

    Already, Chief Bode George, a former deputy national chairman of the party, has warned that peace will elude Nigeria if the presidency does not rotate to the South from the North in 2023. The retired military top brass urged the current leaders of the party to emulate and repeat the understanding and patriotism with which the party was able to implement the zoning arrangement peacefully from 1999 when it came into existence till it was voted out of power in 2015.

    “I am not a soothsayer; I do not look at crystal balls. Can there be peace when only one tribe monopolizes power? That was the route we passed, why should we go through that same route now? Why don’t you live the day and ensure that your neighbor is as comfortable as you are? That is the only way you can guarantee your comfort. In summary, there would not be peace if power refuses to rotate in 2023,” George, who contested against Secondus in 2017 for the chairmanship, said.

    Reliable party sources claimed the rumoured interest of former Vice President Atiku Abubakar, who was the PDP’s presidential candidate in 2019, in the party’s ticket for the 2023 contest, is currently Secondus’ greatest headache. “The chairman’s rumoured loyalty to the Atiku camp is his major problem today. Should Atiku decide to run, Secondus may not find it easy to work against him as he strongly believe the former Vice President has what it takes to win for PDP.

    “But if Atiku is out of the race, Secondus will naturally support the clamour for a southern presidential candidate, especially if his friend and kinsman, Governor Nyesom Wike, is in the race. He is currently struggling to balance the sides as the debates rage. Ordinarily, as the leader of all, he shouldn’t be seen to be taken side, but beyond that, many of the gladiators are watching him closely. They want him to show his hands as regards the zoning issue,” our source claimed.

    When asked about Atiku’s rumoured interest in the race in spite of the clamour for the ticket to be zoned to the south, Dr. Sani Adamu, a pro Atiku campaigner, said: “The important question is not the consequences of not nominating Atiku, but the right move for the party at this time. As a party faithful, Atiku’s interest is the best for the party. If we all agreed that Atiku/Obi actually won the 2019 presidential elections, then we have no reason to change the winning team. The Atiku/Obi ticket is the only asset the party has.

    “The resources deployed to the 2019 project are intact; this makes the 2023 presidential elections cheaper to undertake. However, the important thing is for the party to come together and put its house in order for a strong and united opposition party. Party members should be involved in the decision–making processes, and party elders should refrain from making unguarded statements on issues requiring consultations and other sensitivities.”

    Cracks within

    Already, the various interest groups within the party are getting at each other as the debates over zoning and the 2023 presidential ticket get hotter. Chairman Board of Trustees of the party, Senator Walid Jibrin, fired the first salvo when he said his life is under threat of attack following his recent comments concerning the 2023 presidential ticket of the PDP. According to him, his life is being threatened for not saying that the 2023 PDP ticket be zoned to the North-East, where Atiku hails from.

    The BoT chairman said, “I have received anonymous calls from some people threatening my life for not saying that the party’s presidential candidate should come from the North-East geopolitical zone of the country. They said I ought to have said that Atiku Abubakar should be the automatic candidate of the party in 2023.” He added that some faceless people had even gone to the PDP National Secretariat at Wadata Plaza, saying that those that went there had the intention to deal with him.

    While saying he remained unperturbed to threat from faceless people, Walid noted that he received similar threats during the ex-President Goodluck Jonathan’s administration because he was considered to be too frank about party matters. He said he had since petitioned the Inspector- General of Police, Adamu Mohammed, over the development. Jibrin, a Second Republic senator, added that he hoped the IG would swing into action to unmask those behind the threats and apprehend them.

    Following Walid’s public outcry, two pro-Atiku Abubakar support groups, Desecration.Org and Project774 For Atiku2019, warned the BoT chairman to always ensure that his views reflect the position of the party at all times. Coordinator of the groups, Dr. Sani Adamu, said the BoT chairman either under-estimated the magnitude of his comment or was flippant with his mouth, urging him to use his exalted office to unite, and not divide the party.

    He said the BoT chairman should ordinarily be the soul or moral high ground of the PDP, explaining that by implications, “this means that at all times his public statement should reflect the view of the party, its followers and its leadership. His public comments on party affairs are assumed the official standing of the party. Therefore, when he makes comments without the due regards to the party leadership, he is actually on his own.

    “He should bear the full consequences of his comments. The big lesson there is that there is no thin line between his personal comment and that of the party, especially when it is in the media. He should refrain from controversial comments or issues not reflecting the position of the party leadership. He needs to apologise and withdraw his comments rather than making more wild allegations on threat to his life.”

    Adding his weight to the raging debate, National Vice chairman (southwest) of the PDP, Eddy Olafeso, said those calling for scrapping of zoning will regret it. “If they scrap zoning, there will be no Nigeria beyond 2023. Mark my word, that’s what will exactly happen. Zoning is what has kept Nigeria together this far but if they now want to jettison it, it will have consequences. Any attempt to jettison zoning will have disastrous consequences. Without zoning, Nigeria’s corporate existence is in danger,” he warned.

    As things stand, there is no gainsaying in the fact that the zoning debate and its outcome will play major roles in the political trajectory of Prince Secondus and his leadership of the opposition PDP. Will he weather the storm and emerge stronger at the end of it all, or will the raging debate consume him and end his chairmanship of the nation’s largest opposition party? Time will surely tell.

  • Dike Azuoma: How I switched from football to basketball

    By Morakinyo Abodunrin

    Standing at six feet, Kano Pillars and Nigeria national team basketball player, Dike Azouma, isn’t a giant on court, but his accomplishment is very impressive.  Coming from the humble Ajegunle (AJ City) sport family, Azouma has made giant impact locally, abroad and in the senior national team (D’Tigers) where he has consistently played for 12 years. He has won four titles locally and become a hero of the game in a career that traversed the north, west and mid Nigeria. Currently, he stars for Kano Pillars, one of the biggest teams in the Nigeria elite basketball league.

    Azouma is profoundly proud of his AJ city roots: “I am proud of Ajegunle because it made me who I am today.

    “National fame for me started from AJ City where I was spotted and called up to the national team. I was first called to play at the National Sports Festival in 2006 where I won a silver medal. I was also called up to the National U-18 team before moving to the senior national team; D’Tigers. In 2011, I was part of the Nigerian team that won the gold medal at the All Africa Games and the bronze medal in 2015. I have been in the national team for twelve years now. In 2017, I was also a member of the national team that won the silver medal in Afrobasket in Tunisia.”

    Remarkably, Azuoma, who was trained by table tennis playing father, took to football and table tennis first before switching to basketball.

    According to him: “I used to play football and I suddenly switched to basketball. So many people were surprised, because they knew my football days. I also played table tennis too. People think I am a professional in tennis whenever they see me play.”

    In this interview with MORAKINYO ABODUNRIN, Azuoma talks more about his growing up days in Ajegunle, his family, encounter with legendary Hakeem Olajuwon and missing out of the Nigeria team to the 2020 Basketball World Cup. Excerpts…

    Why are you called Kano Pillars king of basketball?

    I play for Kano Pillars and the Nigerian national basketball team. I cannot call myself the star of the team; I am just part of the team. There is Abubakar Usman who is called the ‘field marshal’ or ‘Seriki’ because he came before me. I came here and the fans welcomed me. Kano is just like home to me.

    When did you join Pillars and what has been your best moment with the team?

    I joined Pillars in 2017, after playing outside the country in 2016. I have played for big teams in Nigeria before joining the team. Joining Pillars was a great opportunity for me because I have been their rival for long. It was a great privilege for me in 2017, which was also the year we won the league. It was great. Pillars gave me the platform to be called the five-star general in Nigerian basketball, and I appreciate it.

    Growing up was all about basketball or was there any sport you intended doing before switching to basketball?

    I was once a football player. I used to play football and I suddenly switched to basketball. So many people were surprised, because they knew my football days.

    I also played table tennis too. People think I am a professional in tennis. I went to Shoprite a few days ago, and was playing tennis, and people were watching with interest. They were later surprised to find out I was a basketball player.

    Why did you switch to basketball majorly?

    There was a day we were to play a football match at Navy Barracks, Ajegunle. The team did not show up and I was upset, because we were to play like the East Coast and West Coast.

    Because I was bored I decided to do something and that led me to a basketball court nearby. I decided to go and throw some balls and that was how I started playing basketball.

    I moved to my secondary school, United Christian Secondary School, Apapa, and continued playing basketball. I got a scholarship and was part of the pioneer team that started the Nestle Milo Basketball secondary school games

    What was it like growing up in Ajegunle and who are the guys you grew up with?

    Yes! I grew up in Ajegunle, and I met many footballers in Ajegunle like Emmanuel Amuneke, Samson Siasia, Henry Nwosu, Ifeanyi Udeze, and others. In basketball, I have mentors like Idris Busso.

    I am proud of Ajegunle because it made me who I am today. National fame for me started from AJ City where I was spotted and called up to the national team. I was first called to play at the National Sports Festival in 2006 where I won a silver medal. I was also called up to the National U-18 team before moving to the senior national team; D’Tigers. In 2011, I was part of the Nigerian team that won the gold medal at the All Africa Games and the bronze medal in 2015. I have been in the national team for twelve years now. In 2017, I was also a member of the national team that won the silver medal in Afrobasket in Tunisia.

    Emmanuel Amuneke, Samson Siasia, Henry Nwosu, and Ifeanyi Udeze are prominent football players, do you regret dumping football for basketball?

    I never regret any day because it is all the same. It is when you discover your talent that you make use of it. It is all about sports, and you choose the sport you want to. I am also a football fan. I support Barcelona. I enjoy basketball, and I hope that my son takes over from me when I am done. I am not going to force my son to play basketball. He is going to decide for himself what he wants with his life. But if he chooses to play basketball, I will always support him.

    Afro Basketball 2017, tell us about the ups and downs leading to the silver medal.

    I can say that 2017 was a great year. Nobody believed in us, not even our country but we believed in ourselves. We did not have enough time to train or go to Europe. But we did the little we could; the team was built up by Coach Alex Iwuora. The chemistry was there. We were like brothers, and we stood by each other till the end, when we lost the final to Tunisia, the host. Everyone thought Senegal would win the championship, but they were shocked to see us progress to the final, including Nigerians back home; we ended up with the silver medal. I made a promise to my son to bring a medal back home. I am happy I fulfilled it.

    What progress have you made since 2017 till now?

    In 2018, I made it to the Commonwealth Games, the World Cup and the Nations Cup.

    How many championship have you won locally and what are your plans to play abroad?

    I have won so many championships in Nigeria. I have won the league four times. I won the Most Valuable Player of the league in 2012. I won the 2015 league and in 2017 with Kano Pillars.

    I have played so many finals and I came second with Lagos Islanders and travelled with Union Bank team for continental action.

    Tell us about your love for table tennis

    Table tennis is a game I love. My father was a table tennis player. When I was growing up, my father got me a tennis board, after my junior WAEC. I was well known in my street as a tennis player, and that was why everyone was surprised seeing me later with basketball. I am so grateful to God, and I intend to keep pushing.

    Who are your mentors and how much of their qualities have you added to your game?

    My mentor was Kobe Bryant, a.k.a ‘Black Mamba’, and Roger Milla. They are great players. I am often referred to as the ‘Mamba’ family. Michael Jordan is also my mentor because he is a legend of the game too. That is why my son and I love to wear Michael Jordan clothes and shoes. If a child is growing up in basketball right now and you ask which player he would love to be like, he would say, ‘I want to be like Michael Jordan.’ He has inspired a lot of players.

    There are also many great basketball players; the like of Nigerian great Akeem Olajuwon, Jordan is like a logo in basketball today. He is a popular brand and name.

    Have you met any of your basketball heroes?

    I have met Tunji Awojobi, Akeem Olajuwon, Olumide Oyedeji, Ejike Ngwaja. They are heroes in Nigerian basketball today.

    Share with us your encounter with Akeem Olajuwon because he is a pioneer in basketball

    My first time was when he came to Abuja for a programme. I have also been privileged to watch him play. I also watched Tunji Awojobi, who is a legend in Nigerian basketball today.

    I was also privileged to play in the same team with Tunji Awojobi in the national team before he retired. I was a rookie, and he encouraged me a lot. I will not forget Tunji Awojobi; he is a legend indeed.

    Tell us about your family; how did you meet your wife?

    My family is in the United States. My son was born in Oklahoma.

    Aside God, what are the things that you are always happy about?

    What makes me happy is God. That is the only thing that can make you happy.

    Who are your favourite stars in Nollywood?

    They are Pete Edochie, Chiwatelu Agu, Rita Dominic, Omotola Jalade-Ekeinde, Mercy Johnson, Patience Ozokwor and Richard Mofe-Damijo. I watch Nigerian movies a lot because majority of my teammates laugh at me when I travel and they ask me of movies and I don’t have anything to say. So I watch movies a lot and play a lot of games.

    What are the dreams you have not achieved?

    I have plans to sponsor the widows and the less-privileged and to give them hope that they can make it in life.

    Are there any other things you would like to add? How long do you want to play before retirement?

    For now, I am still playing till the time comes for me to say good bye to the game.

  • ‘My 60-year sojourn and the 70-year-old chair’

    Olunaun-elect of Unaun in Owo, Ondo State, Prince Olanrewaju Abegunde speaks with Taiwo Abiodun on clocking 60 and the mysterious 70-year-old chair he inherited from his father.

    For Prince Olanrewaju Abegunde the Olunaun of Unaun-elect in Owo, clocking 60 last December was another milestone. However, there is a sad part to it. He also lost his son Prince Adewale Abegunde Tomiwa.

    The Prince who said despite facing many challenges in life he still has cause to thank God for his life, said, “When I look back and see what I have faced in the past 60years, it dawned on me that we are all living by His grace. Nobody can say he is righteous before God and that he is alive because he serves God daily.”

    As a result of his gratitude, he said, “My immediate family members and few of my friends came together and gave me a birthday treat. We couldn’t do it elaborately because I lost my son, Prince Adewale Abegunde few months ago. He had a successful heart surgery seven years ago in America but died this year.”

    On how he became the Olunaun–elect, the prince said, “It was the late Sir Olateru Olagbegi II that conferred the title on me. After the death of my father, I became the Oluaun of Unaun, a community in Owo Local Government.”

    The prince who is a printer by profession worked with the Daily Times while he was in Lagos before relocating home. “I thought of going back home to contribute my own quota to the development of my town. In Lagos, nobody knew me, I then thought of coming back home to join the league of ‘returnees”. I didn’t want to become old before coming back. Aside that, I needed to come and see to the development of Unaun, to make sure it progresses in standard.”

    Olunaun, on the occasion of this interview also flaunted his father’s mysterious chair, which he said has refused to wear or crumble after 70 years.

    “The chair is an antique. My father used and left it behind but what has continued to amaze me is its ruggedness. What surprises me about the chair is that though it is old, it has not weakened nor changed colour. One day, I left it in the rain for two weeks; I had wanted to throw it away but I discovered it was not weak and lost colour, so I decided to keep it.”

    Asked to describe his happiest moment, he said ”My happiest moment was when the new King of Owo in person of Oba Gbadegesin Ajibade Ogunoye III  became the new Olowo and the fact that the voting was peaceful. While my saddest moment was when my son, Adewale, died.”

    On why he is called ‘Baba Ewe’, he said “I am called so because of my closeness to the youth. I learnt this from my father who died at the age of 100years in 1995. He counseled me not to distant myself from the younger ones and also not to be tight-fisted and to follow the Bible injunction that one should not let the right hand know what the left hand is giving. He said that is when one receives blessing from God.”

    On what he does at his spare time, the prince said “I do research on history of Owo; I am an Historian and I don’t want our culture and tradition to die. We need to preserve what we can. For instance this chair that I inherited from my father is over 70years old and I remember my father telling me to keep it. Watch out: one day, I will write a full story on it.”

  • ‘Govt has left me to my fate’

    Just before the pages are turned over, GBOYEGA ALAKA, in this piece, revisits last year’s Ijegun petrol pipeline explosion, with special focus on the civil servant, Sakiru Modiu, who lost four children, grandchild and wife. Modiu is also appealing to the Lagos State government and the NNPC for special compensation on compassionate ground.

    He cut a pitiable, lonely figure, as he met this reporter at the entrance of his new abode, deep inside Agodo, Egbe, a suburb of Lagos. Modiu Shakiru, 51, represents the worst possible face of petrol pipeline explosion, which has become a regular occurrence in Nigeria, having lost four daughters, a grandchild and wife to the explosion that happened last year, July 4 precisely, in the Ijegun area of Lagos.

    It may not be one year after, but the petroleum explosion that occurred Sunday night in Ekoro area of Abule Egba, Lagos, may yet replace and possibly obliterate the memory of that horrific incident, in which well over a dozen lives were lost. According to Titilayo Goncalves, Permanent Secretary, Ministry of Health, Lagos State, ten persons had died by Thursday, four days after the incident. Modiu was the worst hit in that explosion, as his house, which backed the major canal in the area and faced the drainage on Catholic Mission Street, was caught in between, trapping his entire family. Inevitably, he suffered the most casualties. But for what he called “experience and street wisdom,” he, very surely, would have been among the numbers.

    Modiu’s wife Idiat and four children

    The family had been preparing for the wedding of his half sister, the last born of his father, and all his daughters, five of them, had come, with their children, to deliberate, Modiu recalled.

    “When the meeting ran late into the evening, they all agreed to sleep over. After all, it’s their father’s house, it’s their home. The wedding was billed for July 27, 2019, about three weeks away.

    “Unfortunately, we all woke up to find ourselves in a blaze of fire around 4 o’clock in the morning. I lost my wife and four children in the fire. They were all grownups. One 34, another 28, another 24 and 16 year-old. I also lost a grandchild a 2-year-old. They all came with their grandchildren. Some of my grandchildren survived, but you’ll see evidence of the burns on them.

    “We were all rushed to the hospital in Gbagada; my wife and my first born, Jemila, died on the third day. Three days later, another died. Of course, we were in separate wards, so I was unaware of their demise and my people, in their wisdom, didn’t know how to break the news to me. It wasn’t until much later that the family summoned courage to tell me.”

    Asked how come he was able to come out with less injury, Modiu said, “I am a man. I was also caught in the fire but I used experience and street wisdom. We woke up suddenly to see the blazing fire as it raced towards my house from the back, so we rushed out, not knowing that it had also taken over the whole frontage. The fire had filled the gutter. I was to later learn that there was a clash between some security people and the oil thieves, who had vandalised the pipeline to steal Petrol. As a result of the scuffle, the fuel they had already siphoned spilled in the gutter and ran into the canal. The explosion happened right in front of my house before it scattered us all. In the midst of the confusion, the only option I had was to jump into the gutter in front of my house and try to submerge myself in it. Even though there was fire in it, it appeared the only refuge, so I immersed my face and front in the gutter, while all my back and leg which were exposed, burned.”

    Asked if he regrets building his house close to a petroleum pipeline, Modiu said, “My house is not close to the pipeline. The vandals carried out their act on Five Junction, which is about four/five streets away, so nobody can accuse me of building near a pipeline. The canal had not been desilted, so the petrol which flowed into it was practically on the surface, which was why it was able to immediately affect my house. The last time such vandals activities happened in Ijedodo, which is a bit far from our house, we all abandoned our houses and ran to safety, until it was controlled.”

    House of trauma

    Following his discharge from the hospital, Modiu said he has had to just lock up the house and relocate to his present abode in Egbe, as he could just not bear the trauma of living in the house.

    “That house, aside being damaged, holds too much horror memories for me. Do you know what it means to lose your wife and four children at about the same time? There is no day I don’t remember the incident. Is there any way I can forget it? I so love my wife and we understand each other so well. So, she is a big loss for me.

    “In short, I’ve accepted my fate. But God in his mercy spared my pregnant daughter, Ganiat Sherif. Even though she also sustained serious burns; as we speak, she has put to bed and nothing happened to her child.”

    At the moment, he says all the surviving children of her late children, five of them, now live with the surviving daughter, because, he as a man cannot take adequate care of them. Modiu says he will appreciate help in this regard.

    Appeal for accommodation

    His current abode, he said was collectively rented for him by family members, but says there is no way he would be able to continue paying the huge rent, which he said runs into over N200,000.

    As a result, he is calling on the Lagos State government, the federal government and The Nigeria National Petroleum Corporation, NNPC, to take another look at his plight. “I think it will not be too much if the Lagos State government, possibly in collaboration with the Federal Government, reconsider my case and come up with a suitable compensation. I will gladly appreciated a gift of accommodation, possibly a two-bedroom or three-bedroom flat. Once the current rent of this apartment expires, I would need another accommodation because I cannot afford the yearly rent with my meagre driver’s salary.

    “I am especially appealing to Governor Sanwo-Olu to step in. He has shown that he is a compassionate governor. He came to visit me at the hospital – the photos were all over the papers. He also ordered that all medical expenses be transferred to the Lagos State Government, which I appreciate a lot. I know he can do this for me.”

    Modiu, who still bears tell-tale images of the burns and had to be intermittently slapping his badly burnt back all through this interview, said the government medical largesse ended the moment he was discharged from the hospital. “Right now, I buy my drugs, which is not cheap. I spend an average of N30,000 on drugs every day. Even the vest I wear, which is supposed to help prevent my skin from swelling and heal, cost over N100,000 each. And the doctor has said I would have to be on consistent drug treatment for a minimum of a year before I can fully heal. Even as I speak, I still bear the pain. At intervals, the sharp pains hit me as if they are fresh fire burn. I tell you, the pain is unbearable. I need help to purchase my medications too.

    Appreciation

    Modiu however has special appreciation for his boss, Olabode Garbadeen, a serving Commissioner with the Lagos State Local Government Service Commission.

    “I thank God for the kind of boss I have, Commissioner Olabode Garbadeen of the Lagos State Local Government Service Commission. I work as his personal driver and I cannot quantify his assistance and support since this tragedy befell me. For well over six months now, I have had to stay off work because I cannot rest my back which is badly burnt, but he has been understanding. Aside supporting me financially from time to time, he also bought me this air-conditioner because doctors said I should endeavour to always stay in cool places. I guess he may also be connected with the governor’s hospital visit as well.”

    Modiu also has kind words for the Chairman of Igando Ikotun Local Council Development Area, Mrs Morenike Adeshina Williams, who, he said, made a donation of N20,000 to him.

    Conspiracy of silence

    When asked why people in neighbourhoods where these explosions happen don’t speak up until such disasters befall them, Modiu again reiterated that his house is not close to the pipelines and as such was not likely to know when such vandalisations happen.

    On the theory that community heads may be party to such activities, he said, “You may not be far from the truth because it is nearly impossible for such vandalisation and fuel theft to happen in a community, without the community heads, oba, baale, omoniles or their representatives knowing. Although I don’t have any evidence of any oba or chief  collecting money, these days, it is hard for such activities to happen in a community, without the vandals/thieves making returns.”

    He however says what pains him most is the fact that the Oba of Ijegun has not deemed it fit to visit, send representatives or even call to commiserate with him, despite the fact that the tragedy happened to him in his domain and not too far from his palace. Worse, he said, is the fact that this is an Oba that knew him from childhood.

    “Like me, the Oba of Ijegun is Awori. I am from Isolo. He is also somebody that knows me from childhood. My boss that I’ve been singing his praises is from Epe.” Modiu said.

    On the way out of the regular explosions, Modiu said, ‘All those involved in this pipeline vandalisation and theft have godfathers, so increasingly, it’s looking like there is nothing anyone can do until the government become decisive and devise ways of protecting the pipelines and dealing with these people.

    “Would you believe that the same people who caused that havoc came again to a nearby spot on July 7, just three days later to continue their acts? that tells you how damning and daring they have become. So they move to different locations from time to time. Since that incident, there have been incidences in Isheri-Idimu and now the last one at Abule-Egba.”

    ‘Help us beg government to stop wasting our lives’

    When The Nation visited the sight of the explosion mid-week, there were little signs of any such incident, as normalcy had return and the people had practically moved on. But a one-on-one interaction with some of the people revealed that the scar remained indelible.

    One of the men, a building material trader, Johnson Ajimobi, who lost belongings in the fire, recalled that it was a day better forgotten.

    “That fire burned for more than four hours. It sparked off somewhere on Catholic Mission Street and ran back to source here, where the vandals had vandalised the pipeline and abandoned their tank, which spilled its content. The content, ran into the gutter and naturally flowed until it got ignited.

    “That place (pointing to an empty spot) used to be our office and we had our belonging and equipment here. We lost everything to the inferno. The whole of that place used to be a mosque; it also got burnt down. You can see that we are just sitting under a shed now. We also lost about five motorcycles parked right there.

    “We have a friend, who lost four children and wife; another, who was struggling to move his vehicle, died in the fire. His wife also died shortly after because she couldn’t bear the psychological pain. In short, the pain is unquantifiable.”

    Asked if they have received any compensation from the government, Ajumobi said, “No. The government said we are staying here illegally and as such didn’t qualify for any compensation.”

    However, Ajumobi, who said he used to be a member of the security committee appointed by the Oba, said the causes of regular explosions are well known. “We all know that it is the handiwork of pipeline vandals out to steal fuel. The Pentagon security and Civil Defence officials accosted them and that was what resulted in the spill that sparked the fire. If the government does not do something fast, this explosions will continue to happen, because these people don’t have another business.”

    “Look, help us beg the government to stop wasting our lives,” another man, who had been listening to the conversation, chipped in. “If they don’t do something drastic, this thing will continue happening and innocent lives and people’s hard earned properties would continue to waste away.”

    On the allegation that people in the neighbourhoods are guilty of a conspiracy of silence, Ajumobi said, “There are security officers patrolling this places. Why don’t they arrest them. Most of us close here latest 7pm, so how can we know people who come to operate at night? The last time they came during the day to identify the location of the pipeline, our Hausa security men chased them away. We learnt they actually came with metal detectors, with which they traced the location of the pipe and even marked it.

    “During that explosion, the police saw the burnt vehicles of the vandals. Are you saying they couldn’t trace the owners through their vehicle number? Even Senator Solomon Adeola (Yayi) came her several times. Please tell them that we are also suspecting a cover-up by the government.” He finished off.

  • ‘How a reckless driver almost killed me on my visit to Nigeria’

    Samuel Olufemi Obajolu, an Owo indigene and philanthropist businessman, who has lived in Maryland, United States of America for over 30years, shares the story of how a reckless driver almost snuffed the life out of him during his last visit to Nigeria. The Vice President of World Council of Owo Association (WOCOA) narrated the incident and the lesson he has learnt to Taiwo Abiodun.

    The ‘Why I’m Alive’ campaign brought together a wide variety of people. What is the idea behind it?

    We believe that as the name implies, it will be a wake-up call to all, a question to every living being. The name itself does the campaign for itself, resounding the message into the subconscious of all causing that paradigm shift. I wanted the name to be international, each event we do will reveal the reason of life.

    And then you tagged it “The Nigerian Story.” What do you hope to achieve by that?

    At Eureka Productions, the creators of the campaign, we believe in the power of storytelling as one of the strongest tools of transformation and empowerment. Where is the best place to start the transformation? Right here in Nigeria through the power of storytelling, the people form the nation. So as Nigerians gather to tell their stories of Nigeria from way past till date, the Nigerian story is been told…. The question is ‘What part do we want to tell?’

    Getting Olurotimi Badero, the Cardio-Nephrologist and former President, Olusegun Obasanjo to speak to the youths was also a big plus. What inspired the choice of these two?

    First we looked for who is best that has lived through all phases of Nigeria over the past 59 years that can best stand in the gap to represent Nigeria and can tell the Nigerian story and no other fit in than one of the most influential senior citizen in Nigeria – Chief Olusegun Obasanjo GCFR. We also wanted this project to impact Nigerians everywhere in the world to help change this narrative, and so we sort out the best person who could stand in the gap to inspire Nigerians home and abroad and Dr Olurotimi Badero did a perfect job of it/ honored the invitation.

    We believe if we look into the past, present stories of iconic Nigerians, solutions will arise. We were intentional about focus on the position. This is because whatever you focus on will multiply. We also called it a party because we planned to celebrate. People don’t forget how you make them feel; so we created an atmosphere that will ensure the celebration is not easily forgotten.

    The beautiful thing is he also had some stories he wanted to share and felt the project was a worthy platform to him as keynote speaker as he printed his keynote speech as a book and distributed to all.

    You seem to have a strong belief in the Nigerian youth – even though some of our leaders have in the recent past passed votes of no confidence on them. Why?

    Like I included earlier, it all depends on what we choose to focus on and I choose to focus on the positive. I have met a lot of Nigerian youths full of skills and potentials, I have seen them excel in Nigeria and abroad; and as any other living being from anywhere else, Nigerian youth are brilliant and carry great potential and a good number of them are doing amazingly well for themselves.

    Former President Obasanjo raised very poignant questions, with his analysis of the Nigerian debt situation. What’s your take from his message?

    That you have to be cooked to “blow” as they call it. There is something inside of every individual if you search deep and don’t give up on yourself.

    What’s your message to the youth vis-à-vis this precarious debt situation?

    At the end what will count are ideas, stories and potentials. So to save ourselves and this nation, we should tap into what is on the inside and make use of every opportunity the best way.

    In different countries, we hear of young Nigerians doing extremely well as well as in Nigeria. Some Nigerians have even come to Nigeria from abroad to follow their dreams – like some of the ex-Big Brother Naija housemates and some of our artists. I believe with the right mindset and right support system, the potential of the Nigerian youth is limitless.

    Having Pastor Ighodalo as chairman of the campaign is another strong one for you. Tell us about it.

    Pastor Ituah Ighodalo is a man that wears many hats, and I honestly didn’t have an idea how many until I started working with him on this project. The beautiful thing about him becoming chairman, advisory board is it took Pastor Ituah less than 15 minutes to understand all that the initiative stands for when we went to invite him on board. We have always known his passion for humanity and commitment to empower young people. He fit in well and accepted to come on board, and it was a great choice.

    He stands for all we stand for and his wealth of experience is a great plus to us, as well as his good works done and known to the people. His endorsement of the ‘Why I Am Alive Initiative’ is automatic endorsement. It’s an honour to have him on board and have his full support on all we do with the ‘Why I Am Alive’ Initiative.

    What next for ‘Why I’M Alive Campaign?

    The WIAAC is here to stay. Next up is the Why I Am Alive Masterclass.’ Last year, we had David Meltzer, American entrepreneur and business coach. This year, in June, we will have the 2nd edition of the Masterclass. I won’t disclose who is coming yet but I’m sure Nigerians will be glad about it.

    There is our TV show soon to premier as well as the production of the Why I Am Alive films. These are the productions that will come out in cause of the project, as we visit the schools, the markets and empower the people

    There were talks about raising $1million towards the end of the event; to what use do you hope to put this fund?

    At the event we shared Why I Am Alive Campaign 2020 Initiative and it was broken down on how it will help to facilitate the 2020 initiative which includes: The secondary school outreaches, the universities, the market women and men empowerment, the WIAAC Masterclass, the Making of the ‘Why I Am Alive’ film.

    Not many people know who Caroline More is. Tell us a bit about yourself.

    Caroline Moore is a media entrepreneur deeply passionate about creating fabulous content in terms of TV/Radio shows, films/drama and media events, with the intentions that all our content created changes lives and inspire and empower many to live their dreams and fulfill purpose, saving many from poverty, penury and suffering. I am also a producer, presenter, voice over artist and actress.

    Some of our projects include: The Impact, Just Girls and our great online TV show Eureka Moments. There is also Date Night with Tara Durotoye, ‘The Why I Am Alive Masterclass’ and this amazing just concluded event The Why I Am Alive Campaign Nigerian.

  • Nappy Girl: ‘Relationship Be Like’ was a big turnaround for me

    While she loved music since she was a child, Daniella Napoleon, 23, never thought she’d make it a career. But a chance studio session in 2015 changed that. Currently out with her debut EP, BBL808, Nappy Girl as Daniella is now known prides herself as a rapper, singer and songwriter, and has featured the likes of Larry Gaga, Magnito and others. She tells JOE AGBRO JR. about growing up, her entry into music and approach to life.

    She made fame when she began starring as Nappy Girl in an online rap series with Magnito. But Daniella Napoleon’s story started in Warri, Delta State where she was born and spent her childhood years as the third born in a family of eight children. Her dad died when she was one year old, leaving her mother to cater for the whole family. And aside maintaining a regular job, her mother did supplies and also offered catering services and ensured the children got the best of education.

    Attending Seat of Wisdom College, one of the best secondary schools in Warri, Nappy Girl proceeded to University of Port Harcourt to study Linguistics and Communication Studies but eventually switched to the University of Benin where she was primed to study Law but ended up studying International Studies and Diplomacy.

    Her mum had thought she would study music because of her love for music as a child.

    In 2015, while in her final year in University of Benin, she visited a friend in Lagos. On the urging of her friend to check out a studio in the friend’s house, she met a producer, Baller Tosh, and an artiste in a session. The producer asked her to do a freestyle and she dropped a hook. Baller Tosh was impressed and told her to come back later to sing on a beat. The next day, she dropped by the studio again and got to work on her first cover, ‘B*tvch Better Have My Money’ by Rihanna.

    “It was good and he (producer) liked it,” she said.

    She recorded other songs and went back to school, playing the new music she recorded all the time. Already working on her final year project, Nappy Girl was wondering what next to do. In school, she had dabbled into odd jobs like catering and buying and selling to make ends meet.

    “When I was in school, I made sure I wasn’t asking my mother for money because she had plenty other people to take care of.”

    Life after school

    After university, she took a one-month break and came to Lagos where she got her first gig with comedian Ushbebe whom she had met two years earlier. She worked with Ushbebe in Port Harcourt, Rivers, covering a red carpet of a show. She was into logistic and planning for shows as well as working as a creative director for content. That job provided a door into the showbiz world. The office also had a studio and Nappy Girl had access to it.

    In November 2015, she settled fully into the Lagos life but was clueless on how to further her music career. However, she believed that if she could find Baller Tosh, the producer that she first worked with, she’d be alright. It would take over a year before they met again in December 2016.

    In 2017, she set up Lumberjack Entertainment, a record label to push her music and got herself a studio.

    “Most of the people I met while I was working in the studio were not even the slightest bit interested in my music,” she said.

    “They were all trying to convince me to do pop music. The moment I’m signed to a label that is funding everything for me, it means they control what I put out and I feel like I might end up losing myself”

    She is aware of the limitations but she’s “not shying from any contract” yet.

    Berthing the bad B*tvch

    In February 2017, Nappy Girl also started her business, Delphine Beauty, selling hair and eye lashes. It was a scheme to be able to fund her music. Presently, the business, located in Lekki, Lagos, has transformed to include a beauty parlour, spa and barber shop.

    However, balancing her business and art was tough but she trudged on and continued both.

    In June 2018, she met fellow artiste Larry Gaga, who advised her on the way to go.

    “He told me, don’t just put out songs,” she said of Larry Gaga.

    “Put out songs that in 10 years’ time, you can be proud of. There’s no formula to blowing. Just put out songs and let people hear and let the people be the ones to decide what is good for them.”

    She listened to his advice and her debut EP, ‘BBL808’ (Bad Bitches Love 808) which has eight tracks (Envy, Rain on You, Hustler, Gang Gang, Bless You, Yeba, Boss B*tvch and Paper) was eventually released in December 2019. The EP was produced by Wizzypro, Dwillsharmony, Beatsbykarma and Baller Tosh.

    According to Nappy Girl, she has an alter ego “which is in control of everything around her. That person is a bad b*tvch. And most of the songs on the project, aside from ‘Envy’, show this bad b*tvch personality.”

    This persona goes beyond just her music as she interprets bad b*tvches to be women that are good at anything they do.

    “I’m a bad b*tvch,” she said, just as she lists other successful women as the same.

    “It may not be the appropriate word for society to categorise the personality behind them but to me, it makes them a bad b*tvch.”

    While the word bitch might not augur well with many in conservative Nigeria, Nappy Girl is not bothered.

    “Music is never to make anybody comfortable,” she said.

    “As an artiste, I make my music. All my songs that you see there, they come from a place, a mood, or are triggered by a sound. So, I don’t control what comes out. I’m trying to build a global brand for myself. I have people in South Africa, I have people in Dubai, I have people in the US that message me because of my music. I’m not promoting it. I don’t know how they get it but it’s travelling.

    “My music, I’m not doing it for people that don’t like it. I’m doing it for people that like it, that want to hear this kind of music. So, the audience for this is there. In this society, there is hypocrisy.”

    And she says: “808 is a kick. Any producer that hears this title knows what it means. But the project is for everybody. All the songs on the project have 808 kick in them. So, 808 is that drop in a beat that makes you want to move.”

    Asked for her favourite song on the EP and she promptly replies ‘Hustler’. Perhaps, given her challenging upbringing, this is not surprising.

    “Yes, I’m a hustler. I wake up every day and I hustle and I count my pennies and I’m stacking them. I grew up with a mother who is a hustler.”

    From Dani to Nappy Girl

    Prior to being known as Nappy Girl, she went by the stage Dani and released ‘Disiko’ and ‘On Me’. However, meeting and partnering with Magnito on an online rap series titled ‘Relationship Be Like’ changed all that.

    “That project for me was like compensation for not bringing my project the in 2018,” said Nappy Girl, who played the scandalous and troublesome wife of Magnito.

    She revealed that when they started recording in 2018, she was just recovering from a surgery. And after putting out the first episode, people loved it.

    “It (Relationship Be Like) symbolised a major turnaround for my career,”said Nappy Girl.

    “That’s even how my brand name changed from Dani to Nappy Girl. Magnito calls me Nappy Girl. He’s never called me Dani. So, anytime he’s writing in the conversation, he refers to me as Nappy Girl in the series. So, people started to recognise me more as Nappy Girl than they ever did as Dani. I was now in a conflict of identity. My music was getting airplay but my fans didn’t know it was me.”

    The series was a hit and featured big wigs like Don Jazzy, Basket Mouth, Don Jazzy, Richard Mofe Damijo, Larry Gaga, Falz the Bahd guy, Lasisi Elenu, Alex Unusual, Ice Prince Zamani, Josh 2 funny and Dj Neptune.

    Hence, with everyone calling her Nappy Girl, she felt a name-change was wise.

    “It kind of encouraged me to put out this project. I saw how receptive Nigerians were about the whole rap thing on that platform.”

    Though the online rap series is still on, Nappy Girl on the series in currently in jail.

    And while she trusts her acting skills, Nappy Girl will only consider acting if it pushes her music.

    “For now, if there is another musical series, even if it’s not rap, I will be interested in it. If it’s just a small role in a movie that depicts me to something that is still close to my personality, I will opt for it. But I don’t want to be an actress. I’m very okay with my music. I want to be on the music scene.”

  • ‘My plan for noiseless Lagos’

    Dolapo Fasawe is a public health expert who holds MBBS degree from the College of Medicine, Obafemi Awolowo University Teaching Hospital, Ile-Ife.  She is the first female to have ever headed LASEPA in its 24 years of existence. In this interview with Omolara Akintoye, the General Manager, Lagos Sate Environmental Protection Agency, LASEPA speaks on what the agency is doing to ensure that the state is free from pollution, steps taken to address global warming, and her vision for the agency, among others.

    Talking about air and noise pollution, how do you plan to address it as it is endangering people’s lives?

    Section 199 of the Lagos State laws has a sub-section against smoking in public places. As an environmental protection agency, the onus is on us to prevent all forms of air pollution. LASEPA laws clearly state around sub-section 167 that in every commercial or entertainment area where a group of people are gathered, there should be designated smoking spots while the rest of the area is ‘no-smoking’. Building engineers and architects should know how to pick out the smoking section so that those in the non-smoking spots are not disturbed. But we realise that a lot of people take this law afor granted due to lack of enforcement.

    But also, I see a little problem—a lot of people are not aware of these laws and if we start to arrest every law breaker, the prisons cannot contain them. So, what we are planning to do is orientate people on their fundamental human rights to smoke or to choose not to smell smoke since smoking is bad for the health. We are about to start a big advocacy campaign because people have to know before we start enforcement. I also need to say that part of our activities in regulating entertainment houses is to ensure they have visible ‘no-smoking’ signboards and smoking areas. Regarding water pollution, if we suspect it in any area, we do ransom testing and we also do routine testing, we also do random monitoring and evaluation of water services in the state. It is a health issue and Ministry of Health is handling that area.

    Are we doing enough as individuals to address global warming?

    The most difficult thing to tweak is an adult who has a set mind. It will be difficult for us to understand that every drop of water from our tap is contributing to global warming; so we shouldn’t waste water. It is difficult to understand that you have to reuse your water bottle over and over when you are rich and comfortable because you believe you can afford to throw away the bottle and buy another fresh bottle of water. This is not only a Nigerian situation; it is worldwide.

    I agree with you that people are not jumping on the climate action in spite of the Montreal Protocol, the Kigali Protocol and the Paris Protocol. At the last United Nations General Assembly, our president gave a very intelligent paper on his determination to tackle climate change too. You know what? Climate and the environment are the only things everyone on earth has in common. So, if they are remediating in New York and Nigeria is still emitting carbon and greenhouse gases, it will reach New York. The good thing is that this has become a global, collective war since there is no boundary in the air. As a state, our governor has mandated us to incorporate environmental protection into basic curriculum; this will take effect from this year. That way, generations to come will not have a mindset problem.

    Have you noticed that most Nigerians leave their homes daily without putting off light bulbs and other electrical appliances?

    For every atom of energy we are consuming, not even to mention wasting, something that should be a natural resource balancing our ecosystem is suffering for it. How? Energy is artificial; we need to burn oil, burn gases, use a lot of water in dams, use wind turbines, just to generate energy. And what is the climate action call saying? Reduce, manage efficiently and recycle energy.

    How do you help ‘reduce’ if your electricity bill is constant every month?  In developed countries, pay-as-you-go helped them to reduce energy consumption and I am happy we now have that here in Nigeria and that people are learning to reduce energy wastage. But, unfortunately, we still have a generation that depends on power generators which, unfortunately, are burning fuel and emitting greenhouse gases. In essence, my message is: charity begins at home. For every light bulb you leave on unnecessarily, you are damaging the earth, emitting greenhouse gases and damaging the habitats of future genera tions.

    How has it been since you resumed office?

    Exciting and challenging would both be understatements. It is exciting because we are getting results in spite of all our challenges. I am grateful we have a leader who is supportive.

    Governor Babajide Sanwo-Olu is an advocate for the environment, our Commissioner, Mr Tunji Bello, is actively fighting for the environment as well. What has been lacking in the past is passion. When you have passionate leaders, the difficulties and challenges become easy to surmount. LASEPA has been very lucky because environment is one of the pillars in the mandate of this government and the governor is not joking with it at all. We also have a strong partnership with the Lagos Waste Management Authority, LAWMA.

    Many do not understand the statutory functions of LASEPA…

    Our duty is to ensure human beings are protected from the environment and the environment is protected from human beings.  We are talking about air, water and land, which can affect human beings and animals. I’ll give examples. A drop of oil from a tanker’s broken tube can contaminate 2,000 tonnes of water.

    Gases from construction and articulate matters can cause cancers. They also emit greenhouse gases that damage the environment as well its inhabitants. Ev erything we eat comes from land. So, if we have a piece of land polluted with toxic chemicals or oil, agriculture cannot flourish, the natural ecosystem is disturbed and even the water under the ground is poisoned. So, oil pipeline vandals should know they are not only stealing money but also stealing human lives.

    Your vision for LASEPA?

    Right now, my project, which is time-bound, is “Less Noise, More Sense” and we have a ‘Noiseless Lagos’ hashtag on our social media handles to promote this campaign. We are hopeful that in six months, every church, mosque, entertainment house, infotainment house, guest houses and hotels using external speakers and public address systems would have caught the drive. Otherwise, we will seal them up. Domestic homes are not left out.

    Noise pollution has become endemic in Lagos State but we can regulate sounds so they don’t become noise. We understand that urbanisation comes with noise and night life. We want these but within a stipulated standard that is safe to the environment and mankind. Even indiscriminate use of horns is no longer acceptable and we will go after offenders.

    What is govt. doing in the area of enforcement, people are fond of breaking seal because there are no enforcements on the part of govt. how can this be addressed?

    Enforcement cannot be effective without education because people feel ‘why are you punishing me?’, so they pay the fine and they go back and commit the offence again. What govt. is doing regarding indiscipline, we are clamping hard with enforcement on indiscipline through the Lagos State Environmental Sanitation Corps (LAGESC) and through Lagos State Environmental Task Force, but the best enforcement in some other areas is education and awareness.

    Now before LASEPA puts a govt. seal on a property, we have given first abatement notice showing you what your offence is warning as well as given you time to rectify the issue especially with noise pollution. Then later the second notice and lastly an invitation for mediation meeting to try and educate but while some will heed the warning and go ahead to comply majority don’t heed to the warning and what they need is super enforcement. But this is a warning to those that are fond of removing govt. seal; it is an offence punishable by jail terms and fines.

    Once a seal in placed on your property, it can only be removed after you have paid a fine to the Treasury Single Account. Transparency is also key in enforcement. So removing govt. seal is offence punishable by various jail terms and fines. It’s for your sake and that of the environment.

    This year we are going to launch environmental awareness, an aggressively advocacy communication, edutainment so that we can address all these. Mind you, old habit and negative mindsets die hard; thank God that we have a proactive govt. We have identified this and it will be addressed.

  • How Abiola won and lost the Presidency: An insider’s account

    Chief Olubamise Bakare, frontline politician, community leader, businessman, and philanthropist has seen it all. After a meritorious career in the police force, the Ijebu-Ode- born prince joined active politics from the backstreets of Agege, a suburb of Lagos, from where his influence transcended not just local politics but shot him to national prominence in the almost five decades of his political voyage thus far. In this no-holds bared interview with Ibrahim Apekhade Yusuf, the septuagenarian who clocks 76 years on February 26 reminisces about his days in the defunct Unity Party of Nigeria (UPN) where he led a revolution codenamed ‘PRIMROSE’, that whittled down the influence of former Lagos State Governor, Alhaji Lateef Jakande, the formation of People’s Democratic Movement (PDM)  a powerful political bloc founded by the late Major General Shehu Musa Yar’Adua, the many intrigues of the gladiators behind the June 12 debacle, his association with many prominent politicians like Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu, Chief Dapo Sarumi, prospects and challenges of the All Progressives Congress (APC) and the controversy over Operation Amotekun, among others. Excerpts: 

    When did you join active politics?

    I came into active politics in 1978 shortly after I left police service in 1977. I started with Agege politics. I was in the Unity Party of Nigeria (UPN), where I played a major role at the time. I was presiding over the constituency in Agege. The people that I associated with from the onset were progressives. Some of the people around that time were Chief Osinjinrin. He was the person that came up when the then Oba of Agege died. He was just like a regent. In Agege, I worked with the likes of Chief Safari Adaranijo (Srn.), Chief Dapo Sarumi, to mention just a few. That time, we were under Alhaji Lateef Jakande. But due to Jakande’s dictatorial tendencies, we decided to leave his camp. He was the governor of Lagos State at the time. At that time he listed the names of party chairmen across the states. That was a when we were transiting to Social Democratic Party (SDP). But we worked out of the meeting at Bishop Court, where Alh. Jakande lives now. Then, I got out with some members, most of who belonged to The Progressive club, that were supporting Jakande him at the time. I told them, look, we cannot fight establishment like that. The man was a sitting governor. Members of The Progressive, including Chief HSB Kusoro, who was a Chief Community Officer in Lagos, who was the President, while me as the Vice President, Alhaji Jimoh Kareem Orelope, the father of the onetime deputy governor of Lagos State, Adejoke Orelope-Adefuilire was the Treasurer, Alhaji Salau, now of blessed memory, were all there. When we discovered that we cannot toe the line of Alhaji Jakande in respect of the choice of party chairmanship position, which he gave to us, Chief Osinjinrin, a transport magnate didn’t sit well with us; we decided to work out of the meeting. I knew we were going to have problem because as I said, we were trying to wrestle with the establishment. However, the only thing that gave us assurance that time was the fact that we were the ones mobilizing votes to push the party forward in Agege. So, in a sense I wasn’t moved. But I told my men that we need to work our fingers to the bones if we really want to get victory and the people agreed. So we all sat down to plan our strategy. The first thing we did when we returned to our base in Agege was that we decided to form a group that is called PRIMROSE, which is People Resolve Irrevocably to Maximise Resources of the State for Excellence. The symbol was just a yellow flower.

    So how many of you formed the PRIMROSE?

    Chief Dapo Sarumi was leading the group that time. We had Prince Tajudeen Olusi, Otunba Alebiosu Bush. After the formation of PRIMROSE, Chief Dapo Sarumi brought Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu to us in Agege. He said he had been helping the group financially and that he was interested in vying for the House of Reps member in Lagos State. But that time, Alhaji Aro Lambo, had been given the ticket so we brought Tinubu to Agege. At that time, King and Dr. Kolajo, a medical practitioner who came from Germany, volunteered his house at No. 16 Cooker for Tinubu, who at the time was living at No. 16 Balarabe Musa Crescent, Victoria Island, Lagos. So when you now match that with the house he was to be staying in Agege, which was the same No.16 as his house address, it was as if everything was planned. Dr. Kolajo at the time was a living in Ogba. But he just newly built the place at Cooker, Agege, a three-storey building. I occupied one of the floors, the late Oba of Agege, Alhaji Lati Adams also occupied the middle floor, while Tinubu moved into the other floor after it was furnished. Tinubu was Treasurer in Mobil. I recalled that by the time he joined active politics, he got assurance from his superiors that should he fail, he could still come back to his position at Mobil. I was among the people that screened him. We got two candidates from each local government area. That time, Lagos West had seven local government areas. It was a 14-man panel that made up the screening committee. It was myself and Rahman Owo oniran, who later became Commissioner for Housing that took Asiwaju round Agege at the time just to canvass support for him and we succeeded. At the end of the day he polled the highest votes across the country.

    Later, PRIMROSE became big. You know when people are revolting against the system; naturally people like to join them because they believe we are trying to fight for them. Chief Dapo Sarumi then was referred to as the Chief PRIMROSE, CP for short. In Lagos Island, we had Alhaji Aro Lambo, Prince Tajudeen Olusi, Otunba Busura Alebiosu Bush, Alhaji Olatunji Hamzat (who later became an Oba) the father of the current deputy governor of Lagos State, Dr. Obafemi Hamzat, was the caretaker controlling Mushin, but his house was in Ifako Ijaiye, at Yaya Abatan Road. PRIMROSE had its office at No 1. Akilo, formerly used as office of Datamatics, owned by Chief Sarumi.

    With the benefit of insight, how exactly would you measure the influence of PRIMROSE as far as Lagos politics at the time is concerned? Don’t you think its influence could have been overrated?

    No not at all. At the risk of sounding immodest, I can tell you without any fear of contradiction that the PRIMROSE group grew to become a very formidable group in Lagos and even beyond because it also played a major part in the national politics. Today, if you go to any part of Lagos State and ask for PRIMROSE members, you will find then even if it’s a small village. That time, PRIMROSE was a big revolution and we did succeed to a very large extent. The first thing that made us to succeed was from Agege. As I mentioned earlier, we field Alhaji Sarafa Adaranijo as the Chairman, against the choice of Alhaji Jakande, who imposed Chief Osinjinrin, the regent of Agege as Chairman of the party in Agege. That was the first clash. That time, we discovered that the only thing we can do as the foot soldiers of the party was to redouble our efforts at mobilising the electorates. Of course, we knew how to go about it because we knew all the nooks and crannies of the neighbourhood. We used to hold our meetings at Oyewole Road, which was Chief Dapo Sarumi’s house. I was there over nine years. I operated from there for over nine years, tutoring and mobilising people. Every Monday, anybody who was anybody in Agege converged there. It was like going to Jumat service. Every 4pm, the whole of Agege literally emptied there. It was through us, Alhaji Jakande got his first defeat in politics.

    You mentioned earlier that the PRIMROSE was also involved in national politics…

    Yes, at that time we teamed up with the late Major Gen. Shehu Musa Yar’Adua, who wanted to be president. He promised us that the Southwest was going to be his vice for eight years. The PRIMROSE was the group that made Yar’adua to win election in the whole of the Southwestern states for the first time. As at that time, no northerner had ever won any election in Southwest. Yar’Adua at that time was leading the People’s Democratic Movement (PDM)  a powerful political bloc with stronghold in the north.

    Unfortunately, Yar’Adua was disqualified by General Ibrahim Badamosi Babangida. But quite unexpectedly, Yar’Adua said since he had been disqualified, and bearing in mind that the Southwest was to be his vice, he nonetheless said we should go ahead and produce the president. So that was how MKO Abiola came into the picture.

    Personally, MKO Abiola and Yar’Adua were business associates. They both owned the then Habib Bank and the African Oceanline. They had two big ships, namely: Atinuke Abiola and Binta Yar’Adua. Chief Raymond Dokpesi was at that time the General Manger at the African Ocean Line. Also at that time too, I was moving goods for the company as a haulage contractor. One year after I left the service, I also pulled my wife, who was also in the police service out to go into haulage business. However, Yar’Adua and MKO Abiola had a clash along the line so both had gone their separate ways. They sold their two ships. I recall at the time that in Apapa Wharf, the best equipment you could think of were owned by African Ocean Line even better equipped than the Nigeria Ports Authority (NPA) at the time. But at this time when politics was in the front burner and following MKO’s choice, we had to call them both for a meeting. We called the meeting at the instance of the man who owned the Peninsula Hotel; I can’t remember his name now. But the owner of the hotel who had a farm settlement at Epe that was where they both met and settled their differences. There they embraced and they both shed tears because they had lost a lot of things material wise. There and then, we handed over MKO Abiola to Shehu Musa’Adua, informing him that the former was the person we want as president from the Southwest.

    How did the People’s Democratic Movement (PDM) came about?

    I can tell you for a fact that different interest groups formed the PDM. But the late Major Gen. Shehu Musa Yar’Adua was the leader of the PDM structure. As I was saying, when Abiola was accepted, we decided to go for party primary. We must give it to Shehu Musa Yar’Adua. He was a strategist. I remember then when he is holding meeting with us at Akilo, he used to say that the only person he respects is Olusegun Obasanjo. Of course, we never knew what would happen at the end. So when the time came for the party primary, Yar’Adua said all delegates from the whole country should come to Kaduna. It was there he hosted us all. You know because of the problem between Alhaji Jakande and Yar’Adua then because nobody had ever beaten Jakande in election in Lagos, he challenged Yar’Adua that if he was confident that he truly won the election, he should come and walk on the streets of Marina, in Lagos with him on foot, so that they can both test their popularity. But Yar’Adua replied and said, “I did not defeat you. Go and ask Chief Dapo Sarumi and PRIMROSE how they defeated you.” That was how that situation was settled…

    So when you arrived for the primaries…

    Yes, when we arrived in Kaduna, Yar’Adua hosted us all the delegates at a hotel in town. While we were there, he called some people to the high table including Chief S. M. Afolabi, Dapo Sarumi. In fact, all the leaders that helped him to win the election in Southwest were singled out for recognition. He held the microphone and told the rest of the delegates, majority of who were from the northern part of the country, and told them that no northerner had ever won election in the Southwest. But these are the people (he gestured towards us on the high table) that made me to win. Quoting Yar’Adua, he said, “They say they have chosen MKO Abiola as the president from the Southwest. So I want you to go out there and announce that Tafida has endorsed MKO Abiola for president.”

    Almost immediately, he ordered that they should mount public address system on some brand new J5 Station wagons and go round Kaduna to announce that decision. Thereafter, he told the delegates that in Jos, we will be given three ballot papers. The first ballot is going to be for MKO Abiola, the second ballot for Alhaji Atiku Abubakar and he handed him over to Abiola and said, “Atiku will be your vice.” Then he said the third ballot would be anybody of our choice as president from our state of origin. At that time, it was Option A4, which required that you must have a presidential candidate from your state. Barrister Akeem Giwa from Lagos Island was the candidate we fielded. I remember at the time that the likes of Prince Ademola Adeniji-Adele, Alhaji Nuhu Saka, the former chairman of Apapa Local Government Area, all in PRIMROSE were also present there. Saka’s vice at the time is the present State Chairman of the All Progressives Congress (APC), Alhaji Tunde Balogun, they were both elected under the Congress for National Consensus one of the five state-sanctioned political parties allowed by the government of General Sani Abacha at the time.

    Of course, before we left Kaduna, we knew the number of votes we were going to deliver for Abiola. The plan was so superb. Yar’Adua arranged for air-conditioned J5 buses to move delegates from Kaduna to Jos stadium the venue of the primaries. I remember at the time that every candidate had his own coordinator and agents. I remember it was one Prof. Ojo that was the coordinator for Abiola. Meanwhile, I forgot to say that before we left Lagos, we had crisis. Our group split into two. Alhaji Hamzat was heading one group with the likes of Adele and co, were all supporting Ambassador Babagana Kingibe, who at that time was the National Chairman of the SDP. The Chief PRIMROSE was leading another group supporting MKO. Already at that time the SDP had 14 state governors. When we got to Jos, those of us in Sarumi’s camp were all accommodated at a building, which served as a branch office of Datamatics also owned by Sarumi. Sarumi bought tickets for his own sets of delegates while those in Kingibe group had their flights facilitated by Lukman Ajose, who was working at one of the old generation bank at the time. The delegate used his complimentary card to board Okada Air to Jos. So we all met at Jos. Of course, we already had our plan from Kaduna, which the Kingibe group was not privy to. When we got to Jos stadium, the first ballot started and we finished that one around 1.am. But it was an upset. The upset was that we were expecting MKO to be No.1, Atiku to be No.2. But Kingibe was No.2 while Atiku was No.3. Naturally, we were jittery because we knew something was wrong. We were soon to find out that some governors in Southwest unknown to us were secretly working for Kingibe, hence the upset with the initial vote cast.  We were to start the second ballot by 3.00am and Sarumi was sitting on my immediate left while Adeniji-Adele was also within earshot. At that point I whispered to Sarumi’s ears that Kingibe was going to give us problem. I reminded him that Yar’Adua had said that MKO must emerge from Jos today. Afterwards, Sarumi put a call through to Yar’Adua in Kaduna that we have an upset. Quite unexpectedly, Yar’Adua left Kaduna that wee hour of the night to Jos at 3.00am and summoned the gladiators, including MKO and Atiku to his hotel. That night he again reiterated the fact that he had since given his word to the Yorubas that they are to produce the president. There and then, he asked Atiku to go back and announce that he was stepping down. It was a rude shock to Atiku but then he submitted to the wish and command of Yar’Adua, who was his political benefactor. When Sarumi came back to the stadium venue, he said I shouldn’t worry that everything had been sorted out. But I told him, the way I’m seeing Kingibe moving around the stadium making frantic effort to sway the delegate things might not augur well. The whole place looked tense. But Sarumi said I shouldn’t bother. It was then he said Yar’Adua had settled everything. He didn’t say more than that. I knew Sarumi had invested a lot in the whole affair also it bothered me. But all he was just doing at the time was counting his Tasbih (the Muslim rosary). Before the second ballot was to start, all the candidates were called to the podium to speak for three minutes.

    MKO was the first to speak. When he picked up the microphone, he said he was only interested in building the country that he wasn’t coming to steal as he was already contented with what he had. The whole stadium erupted with shouts of “MKO! MKO! MKO!!!” It was then Kingibe’s turn. You know he is an orator. He delivered a speech less than three minutes that moved the whole stadium. He said, “We all have our membership cards. That’s all we need. We were able to win 14 governors seats without any support of any moneybag. So this rich man just came to hijack the party and under one month he wants to be the president and you people are just sitting down there watching.”

    That was a most inciting statement. The whole place became silent that if you dropped a pin, people will hear the sound. Then I said, “Problem dey o.”(laughs). Then Atiku came in to give his speech. Atiku said: “All party members, we came in here in peace, in happiness, we will go back to our various destinations in peace.” He said, he doesn’t want any problem with anybody, so he is stepping down. He was the only one who had a standing ovation, that’s Atiku Abubakar. The whole place erupted with joyous ecstasy. Almost immediately, Kingibe took the microphone, shouting, “My own brother stabbed me at the back. My own brother stabbed me at the back!” he kept on ranting but of course, he knew the game was up. After the commotion died down, Abiola had already gone to embrace Atiku. Soon the second ballot began and at the end of the day, MKO beat Kingible by massive votes and was declared the winner.

    But then one shocking thing happened. After MKO was declared the winner, people urged him to raise Atiku’s hand as his Vice, but he refused. People were like Atiku is the man who gave you the ticket. A lot of us felt this was a serous form of betrayal. He said, “No, wait, when we get back we are going to sit down and resolve this.” That was the beginning of the crisis.

    But what must have led to this turn of event? 

    I’ll tell you. Things began to manifest one after the other. First I must say it was the handiwork of sycophants. Just two weeks after we were to go to Abuja for the national convention, some people went to tell MKO to appoint his own national exco, insisting that he must be the one to so choose the national executive, who all must be his choice candidates. MKO designed a list without consulting widely. At the end of the day we had two lists of executives when we got to Abuja. But they had forgotten one thing that Yar’Adua commanded the love and admiration of a lot of party faithful. Of course, we had already given our word that we were going to return Yar’Adua as the national chairman of the party by all means. And true to our plan, it was the same number of votes we used to beat all the candidates fielded by MKO Abiola and Babagana Kingibe combined to make Yar’Adua emerge as the national leader of the party. To the glory of God, Yar’Adua floored MKO in all the party positions and was able to firmly take control of the party machinery. We expected him to be bitter but not Yar’Adua. In spite of everything, Yar’Adua who regretted that MKO chose Kingibe instead of Atiku as his Vice in Jos, still asked the party members to support him. That was the real problem that caused the annulment. All other things are just undercurrents. You will recall that even IBB at some point revealed that the June 12 election was annulled by some powerful forces. This is exactly what played out.

    Are you saying that it is the people that mattered most in the north that decided that MKO Abiola should not be returned as president after his success at the polls?

    I will still come to that point before the end of this discussion.

    What happened after the annulment?

    After the annulment, the state executive committee, including myself as the State Organising Secretary of the SDP with Prince Tajudeen Olusi who was the chairman and Alhaji Olatunji Hamzat as the Secretary of the party told MKO to find his way out of the country. The state exco suggested to him that if he gets out of the country, he can form his cabinet. Already, at that time there was the Interim National Government and Chief Dapo Sarumi was in the government. Before Sarumi joined the government, we asked Yar’Adua who do we present, and he said Sarumi. In fact, Sarumi was second in command to Chief Ernest Shonekan. I recalled that Chief Shonekan promised us that he was going to try all within his powers to return power to MKO Abiola that we should give him time because he never tampered with the structure of the party. He promised to invite the person that adjudicated in the election to come back and pronounce the winner of the June 12th, 1993 elections. So we had hope that things would work and for good. Abiola was outside already. That was when the National Democratic Coalition (NADECO) was formed and many of those who formed it were also part of PRIMROSE. But, suddenly we got word that MKO Abiola was returning to the country on the invitation of Gen. Sani Abacha and we were worried for his safety. MKO asked us to meet him at the airport. When we met him, we asked who invited him and he said Abacha. Of course, Abacha knew that if he is outside, he won’t be able to get him, hence he lured him into the country and deceived him that he was going to hand over power to him. That was the first time I disagreed with Asiwaju. I called all the people that supported me in voting Asiwaju as a Senator representing Lagos West to the Lagos Airport Hotel so that they could help me convince Asiwaju that Abacha was not ready to hand over to Abiola. I told him Abacha had been agitating to rule for a long time so how can he get the opportunity now and just push it away. Bola did not take it easy with me that night. We were there still around 2.00am. All the leaders were there.

    Right there, he took up his cellular and placed a call to the US. After speaking with some people, he handed over the phone to me and said talk to my chairman. When I picked the phone the receiver at the other end said “We’re youths in the US and we won’t come until MKO takes his mandate.” Then I said, “Did you vote for Abiola? We were the ones that voted so we know what is going to pay us so don’t tell me that. If you don’t want to come home then stay back stay where you are.”

    Then Asiwaju would say “Chairman, why are you saying that kind of thing?” That fateful day, Asiwaju stormed out of that meeting in the presence of leaders like Chief Adaranijo and co. That day, I expected him to pay for all the expenses we incurred but I had to pay for everything from my own pocket. That was when the problem started rearing its head.

    I recalled at the time that Abacha’s brother was one of those who assured Asiwaju that MKO would get back power.

    Can you remember his name?

    No I can’t remember his name. But all I know is that he lived at No.18 Balarabe Musa Crescent, just two houses away from No.16, where Asiwaju lived. You know when Abiola came, he returned in Air France and Abacha gave him red carpet reception. We were watching. When we went to welcome him at the airport, he later asked us to join him at his house in Ikeja, at Oba Ogunji. When we got there, we told Abiola that all along Shonekan had planned to return him as president, but he was angry saying that Shonekan wanted to remain in power. It was then it dawned on us that we had made the wrong choice by picking a businessman. When he arrived the country, it was as if the USA government had put jet bomber, ships and tanks on Marina to defend MKO Abiola. Of course, we were very annoyed with ourselves for bringing on board someone whose mindset and thinking hardly aligned with our ideology. We felt we should have allowed this man to continue his business. Some of our people too went behind to convince him to declare himself as president and that was what led to the Epetedo Declaration. We were very annoyed that all these efforts we have put in was going down the drain.

    So you think Abacha had sinister motives for inviting MKO to return to the country?

    You know Abacha also was a strategist; he had ordered the soldiers to roll out the tankers to follow MKO from Epe to his house and ordered that nothing must happen to him. Everyone cheered him on saying, “Here comes our president!” But in diplomatic circles, no country can afford to have two sitting presidents. One will have to kick out the other one. You see one of the boys that was in that house when they came to pick MKO was the boys that wanted to be the Chairman of Agege Council. At the time he was in PRIMROSE, he was shot. He wanted to follow Abiola into the vehicle when the policemen came. There were among MKO’s supporters that were ready to die for him, immediately, Of course, they didn’t come as if they came to arrest him, the officers that came said he was being expected at the Force Headquarters, CID, Alagbon, Lagos. When they came they met everyone making merry and Abiola asked them to eat and drink but they declined, saying that he had a message from the Villa.  Abiola thought the handing over had come. When MKO came out of his residence he met the Commissioner of Police, I don’t remember his name now, who addressed him as Your Excellency sir. That was the last time Abiola left his house alive. These are the real issues that played at that time. I remember Kola Abiola, MKO’s son made some comment in respect to his late dad, saying how sycophants goaded his father to untimely death. But we were not part of those sycophants.

    What then became of Yar’Adua’s vision to make the Southwest produce the president following the death of MKO?

    I remember before Yar’Adua died, a few of us met with him, and he reiterated the fact that we must still choose a Southwest person as president. That is why I said the man Yar’Adua was unique in his own right, very selfless human being. So when the preparation to return to civil rule began, we came together as a group, the PDM and began to ask ourselves who to pick as the preferred candidate for president from the Southwest. At that point, we remembered that the late Yar’Adua used to say that one person he respects most, is Olusegun Obasanjo.

    How was Obasanjo lured into politics few days after his release from prison?

    It was just few days after his return from Yola Prison, where he had been in incarceration for some years following his arrest by Abacha. He looked so haggard and had rashes all over him. When we told him our mission, he was scared himself. He said, no, no they have killed Abiola, Yar’Adua and you want me to stick my neck out again. He even insulted Dr. Kolajo, now late. He said, you with over 30 plus years in medical field, you still want me to come out, can’t you lead yourself? But before we came out of Obasanjo’s house, he had already apologised to Dr. Kolajo. He said, go and meet Chief Olu Falae that he was going to give him support. But when we met Falae himself, he declined, saying he cannot. Few weeks after, we got back to him (Obasanjo). I forgot to add that while we were with Obasanjo, his wife, the late Stella was standing behind him and gesturing to us in hushed tones to come back later. So after we met a brick wall with Falae, we went back to Obasanjo. By the time we got there, he was a bit relaxed. He received us very well this time around. He asked us to sit down. Everywhere looked tattered. He was using lantern. Then he said, ‘OK, I’ll discuss with my pastor in church and pray about it.’ He said he was going to call us back. So we left. Of course, Stella, who was also present at the meeting asked us to come back. But that time, there was a mandate that we should get somebody ready to lead the rebirth for Southwest presidency by the PDM.

    Was Obasanjo a member of the PDM then?

    No, he wasn’t. It was because of what Shehu Musa Yar’Adua said. So our choice of Obasanjo was influenced by what the late Shehu Musa Yar’Adua used to tell us. He said Obasanjo was the only person he respected.  When we saw that he was foot-dragging about the whole thing, the PDM went and meet him at Premier Hotel, Ibadan. That’s a structure I can say that there is no time you call them, even in the middle of the night, they will rally round across the country. The structure was fantastic. So we resolved that since Obasanjo was scared, Chief Dapo Sarumi should go and declare. But some people went to see Obasanjo in the night as they were returning from Ibadan that look here, the opportunity will slip you bye as they have asked Sarumi to go and declare. It was after then Obasanjo called and said, he was ready. Then, we went to give him his member card. This story is known to everybody, it is not hidden. So anytime he is going to address campaign, Sarumi was always sitting close by. Obasanjo would be telling Sarumi, that Shehu has told me that you are very intelligent and you know your onions in politics. So each time we were at a rally and they asked questions, Obasanjo would beckon to Sarumi and say, what answer can I give or say now for so-so and so question they asked and all that.

    The late SM Afolabi was convinced to go with us to meet Obasanjo because we have been coming together as PDM but he never wanted to go with us. Afolabi said Obasanjo was his junior in school and that he knows him. That’s why what happened later is something that confirmed our fears. The reason why I’m saying this is because I was among the people sent to Afolabi when he came out of detention in Iree, Ekiti. It was the former Vice President Atiku Abubakar, who asked us to pay Afolabi a visit.

    • CONCLUDING PART OF THIS INTERVIEW RUNS NEXT SUNDAY