Dr Basiru Ajibola is the Osun State Attorney General and Commissioner for Justice. In this interview with GBENGA ADERANTI, he speaks on his relationship with Osun State governor, Ogbeni Rauf Aregbesola, his family life and passion.
People call you different names other than the official one. Some people call you Captain, others call you Ijoba. Why that?
I think people just decide to use the name they choose based on their perception of what I do for the state. For those who call me Ijoba (Yoruba word for Government), I think it started after the case that reinstated Ogbeni Aregbesola and the tribunal declared the governorship election in 2007 null and void. I came to join Ogbeni Aregbesola to set up the government. At that time, I was not an official of government but people started calling me Ijoba. The governor had entrusted us with a lot of responsibilities and ensured that the vision and dreams of the government was translated into reality. Some, after the cabinet for Aregbesola’s second term was formed, started referring to me as Captain, just to reflect the different roles we played to ensure that the vision of this administration became a reality.
Many people believe that you and Ogbeni Aregbesola are well bonded. How did you meet him and what is the secret of your closeness?
I would say that before I met Governor Aregbesola, his reputation preceded him. I was in the students’ movement at the University of Ilorin and the University of Lagos. He was an iconic figure in the students’ movement. He was one of the leading lights of Marxism, and to us, he was like Che Guevara.
We actually met physically at Ebute Meta when I was in Lagos, through the Yoruba Liberation Movement. Later, I got to know him through Dr. Muiz Banire when the process for his contest began and he got to know that we are from Osun. We later became very close when we were briefed to file election petition to challenge election robbery in 2007.
Of course, he is somebody that is infectious when it comes to passion for success and the development of the people. He is somebody who believes in talent, irrespective of age. I was only in my 30s when we played that active role. Irrespective of my age, he really believed that I could deliver. Even when we were having challenges about the litigation because of the instances of allegations of bribery at the first tribunal and that was being simulated as lack competence on the part of the legal team, he still believed in us in spite of our youthfulness.
So, after the first set of tribunal, the Court of Appeal asked for a rerun on the basis of lack of fair trial. At the second rerun, we also participated and we reconstituted the legal team. Mr. Awodeyin still led us in the case with Chief Akin Olujinmi. So it was an interesting battle. So, up to that period, we were entrusted with that case, it was like a kind of secretariat for the case and I guess he must have had good impression that I have some talents he could make use of when he took over the government.
Even when the judgment was announced, my intention was to go back to my law practice, but he said that the work had just begun, and having someone of our own, I mean someone from a socialist background becoming a governor, he would need people who have the same orientation.
Basically, I would say that we are close because he has a lot of confidence in our ability to work for the transformation of the society.
He is someone who believes that black people must show an example that we can govern ourselves. He always laments that in all the places we have poverty, squalor, unemployment, environmental degradation, you find black people. Are we saying we are not competent to govern ourselves? He has been able to effuse us with that passion.
You also see a man who does not micro-manage. He gives you an assignment, he gives you general framework and he expects you to deliver on that assignment. That has also helped us in horning our leadership skills. But more important about him is that you have someone who is an intellectual titan, and that has been the difference between being educated, being intellectual and having paper qualifications. He is somebody with perspective and deep understanding of virtually all areas of human endeavour.
There is no doubt that this government has been able to transform the state in so many areas but there are still complaints from a section of the society. How do you feel when people criticise this government?
I will not agree with you that the people have problem with our government, and you can see that from the popular acceptability of our government as it has been evident in past elections. In 2011, our party did not only deliver all the seats—senatorial, reps and state assembly—the candidate of our party, then ACN (Action Congress of Nigeria) won only in our state. It shows acceptability.
Also, in 2014, notwithstanding the deployment of 17,000 security operatives to come and hijack power from our administration, the people came out, particularly, the women. They came out to challenge the security operatives. They came out with their brooms and said they were ready to defend the mandate of Ogbeni Aregbesola, notwithstanding the millions of dollars deployed by the PDP administration. That was an example of support for this administration.
And you will remember that in 2014, the economic meltdown had started. But notwithstanding the economic meltdown challenges the state was facing at that time, we still had massive support that brought Rauf Aregbesola to power. Then in 2015, there was an election. At that time the election was conducted, we had the challenge of paying salaries. That notwithstanding, out of the 26 state assembly seats that were up for grabs, our party won 24. We only lost in Ife East and Ife Central, and we had 9 of the Reps seats, having lost Ife Central Federal Constituency and Obokun Oriade Federal Constituency by very narrow margins. We had all the senatorial seats.
The only way you can measure acceptability is through the electoral success people have given you.
Of course, people will say Osun West Senatorial election. Yes, we lost the election. We lost the election not because we were not accepted; we lost because there was internal sabotage of our party, not at the state level but at the national level. It was a situation of trying to cut your nose to spite your face. But you know the reconciliation efforts being coordinated by the president under the leadership of Asiwaju Bola Tinubu. This idea of working against the interest of fellow party members will have to stop.
Conduct a fox pop; you will see that the average man on the street of Osun will actually identify with Aregbesola. Those who have problems with the government are those milking the state dry.
Since Rauf Aregbesola assumed power, there has been a quantum move in all the sectors of peoples’ lives in terms of infrastructure development, human capital development and social protection.It has been a quantum lip, and if we are able to sustain this for 16 years, Osun will be a beacon of hope for the black race, such that we can rule ourselves and rule ourselves very well.
Why did you opt for Law?
I studied Law by accident. I was a student of Arabic and Islamic Studies at the University of Ilorin where I was involved in students’ union activities. There were some students agitations which led to my being suspended and eventually expelled from the university when I was in Part 3. I decided that should not be the end. I put in for JAMB exam and got admission to study Law at the University of Lagos. Here I am, a lawyer.
I’ve always set out to be a successful man. I wasn’t fastidious about a particular course so far that with hard work and integrity, one can become successful in life.
When your faith comes in conflict with your profession, how do you handle it?
There is no separation between your faith and your life. In fact, Islam is a complete code of how to live your life. That is why in terms of classifications, Islam is an embodiment of what you call religion. The way you marry, the way you live your life is part of it. Law is not antithetical to Islam. The thing is that whether you are an upright man, a man of integrity, you define your life the way you want to live it, not your profession. I’ve had instances when I advised my client that they did not have litigable case and they should go and find a way to amicably resolve their issue. Even in my personal life, I don’t want to litigate.
As a lawyer, you are a problem solver. My approach to law is to solve problems. Law is predicated on high standard of ethic. So there is no area of divergence in Islam and being a lawyer.
The prophet said speak the truth even though you may lose clients because of that, but you will gain reputation of friends and somebody who has honesty and integrity.
You are popular and well respected among your peers. Do you see yourself becoming the governor of this state one day?
My answer to that is that I’m a Moslem. God is the owner of sovereignty. He gives it to whomever He wants. If I’m to be anything, forget about being a governor; it depends on the will of Allah. Even this one I’m doing, it was never in my contemplation that I would be a commissioner. The question of where I am today is not out of my own making, not to talk of where I will be in the future. So as far as that is concerned, even the prophet said ‘if the whole world gathered that they want to put you in a position or give you benefit, if Alalh does not will it, you will not get it. And if the whole world said they would deny you of a position, they would not get it.’
On the issue of whether I will be governor or anything, it is in the hand of the Almighty God, and I believe God in His own personal way will throw up a process to enable you get to where you have been destined to go to. Yes, it is good to make progress. I’ve never bothered about how I live my life because I’m not the one responsible for the little progress I have made. But I believe I’m eminently qualified to be the governor of Osun State.
How does it feel to be married to a magistrate?
I’m not married to a magistrate, I’m married to Abibat. The issue of being married to magistrate is by the side. I see her as my friend and a mother and very caring person.


