Category: Weekend Treat

  • One of the contenders for my girl’s heart is a naval officer married to a German woman

    Please Aunty Ineed your advice. I’m 32, in love with a 19-year-old girl. The problem is that when I talked to her, she told me she loves me but she has two men in her life. The first guy is her secondary school boyfriend, he is 23yrs, learning a trade and he was the one that dis-virgined (deflowered) her when she was 18. The other guy is a navy officer and he is 50 years old, married to a German woman with a kid and he intends to marry her.  Aunty this girl promised to marry me, but I must give her some time to leave the other two guys since I don’t have a good job after my OND and her family does not have money and I want her to go to school and have her OND she must go out with them so as to get the money she needs for her school. Aunty I am confused what should I do now?

    Dear brother, they say the patient dog eats the fattest bone. In your own case, I doubt if there would be any bone left to eat at the end of this girl’s OND o. The naval officer is eating his own bone and the other guy too is having his fill and if you look at it, both of them have the right to eat as much as they can. The naval officer is obviously the one paying most of her bills while she has fond memories of the other guy, so they’re share holder. Smart girl; she has told you that she can’t leave any of them because of their contributions to her life, so the choice is yours to make.

    If you were my brother, I’d be so shocked that you could still be thinking of waiting for her after her revelations! You’re indeed a patient man. Just be warned the naval officer won’t be this patient if he finds out about you and the other girl. And as for the poor woman in the man’s life who has to share her man with a girl who shares her bed with other man, I can only pray she doesn’t get infected along the line.

    There are so many good girls out there who would work extra hard to make extra money for school fees. Not all girls are dogs so it doesn’t have to be this girl even if she is the most beautiful woman alive. Watch it o.

  • ‘Biofuel is Nigeria’s  best  energy option’

    ‘Biofuel is Nigeria’s best energy option’

    Felix Obada,  Group Managing Director  and Chief Executive Officer at Global Biofuels Limited, is credited with inspiring and leading the race for Nigeria’s entrance into space by facilitating the design and launch of the country’s first satellite (NigeriaSat-1). He started his professional engineering career at the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC) in 1977 and retired in 1995 as a chief engineer. He later became the pioneer Director-General and Chief Executive of the Materials Management Institute of Nigeria between 1996 and 1998 and served as a consultant to the University of Surrey Space Centre, United Kingdom, between 2000 and 2003. Dr. Obada also pioneered the creation of the National eGovernment initiative. In this interview with Olayinka Oyegbile (Deputy Editor) and Seun Akioye, he speaks on why Nigeria should embrace cleaner energy using the biofuels technology.

    Let us lay this background first, in simple terms explain what is biofuel?

    BIOFUEL is simply ethanol; that is one definition. It can also be biodiesel or biofuels. They are fuels that are generally derived from agricultural products. They are grown and they are not mined or drilled that’s why they call them renewable energy. For as long as you continue to grow your crops you will be producing, whereas if it is something that occurs naturally the moment you drill and you extract you cannot replace it. But for biofuels, you grow the crops you harvest you process it and then you grow again you harvest again and you process again continuously on the same piece of land. And you can continue to do that, that’s why they say its sustainable, renewable. It is an interesting area which Nigeria should embrace aggressively.

    One of the arguments against biofuels all over the world is land grab, there are human right groups who say over 100,000 hectares have already been seized by companies like yours. So why should Nigerians support your project if it is going to displace the local farmers

    Our own initiative does not result into land grab. What it does is to enhance land utilisation. You are able to optimally utilise the land that you have. Land grab is for certain aspects of bio-fuel production. You may say yes, but in the kind of initiative that we are implementing there is no such thing in the sense that the raw material that we are using will be produced by the farmers themselves, the land will still belong to them. We have an out grower’s scheme that the farmers are part of. They produce the feedstock and sell to us. We’ve been taking a large portion of what we use in processing our biofuel from the out growers that is why we have to work directly with state governments and local governments wherever we go. The state government will organise the farmers into co-operatives, then we sign what is called the out growers’ agreement with them so there will be no question of displacing any farmer, instead it enhances their take home pay.

    There are other more fundamental issues that have been raised about biofuels. One is that it competes with the food chain,

    Yes we are coming to that. It is true with some kind of feed stocks. In every country they have feed stocks that are well suited for their own biofuel products. Brazil uses sugarcane. The whole country is full of sugarcane; they have an abundance of sugarcane. Also, surrounding countries like Uruguay produce and export to Brazil. Their climate is good through the year for cultivation so it’s okay for them to use it for biofuel. It’s economical for them. They are in the Amazon region where the climate is wet throughout the year. But for us in Nigeria, sugarcane itself is food and then we don’t even produce enough of that. Plus not every part of Nigeria is suitable for sugarcane cultivation. From plant to life it takes between 12 – 18months, so you cannot plant and harvest within the same cropping season. So really if you say someone who wants to plant sugarcane that they will do land grabbing I would support that idea because someone who wants to plant yam and other things you would deprive of doing that because the way sugarcane is grown it does not permit intercropping. In the United States they use corn, yes, I mean real corn. That is actual food that can be consumed, unlike sugar which is to a large extent not considered as real food; the Americans use actual corn to produce biofuel and it is encouraged vigorously by the government.

    Corn is food that is dangerous it is like making food for vehicles. In Canada, they use wheat which is also food. In Nigeria, the Obasanjo regime attempted to use cassava, there is hardly any household that don’t depend on cassava. It will be unfair for Nigerians to use food. That is why we decided to use raw materials that do not compete with food chain. We use sweet sorghum, we don’t even use the grain or the leave, we use the stem that is useless. We harvest the grain for food, the leaf we feed to the cattle and then the stem is what we crush, extract sugar and use to make fuel. Our initiative is waste to wealth; it does not compete with the food chain at all. Nigeria is one of the largest producers of sorghum in the world, we have over eight million hectares under cultivation as we speak. Those are green sorghum; all we need to do is to switch from green to sweet sorghum.

    What is the difference between the two?

    They are the same. But the stem in green sorghum has no juice and it is not sweet. The sweet sorghum has a juicy stem and it is sweet.

    How do you source seed for the sweet sorghum?

    It is available. In a huge plantation of green sorghum, you may find just one stick that will be sweet, it’s an error of creation those ones have been isolated by our scientists and developed into a large plantation of sweet sorghum. They produce grain just like the green sorghum, so rather than use grain or cassava or wheat we use sweet sorghum.

    Coming back to land grab, when your project becomes profitable, is it not possible that some big capitalist would exert influence to grab land from small farmers to plant sweet sorghum?

    For somebody to grab someone else’s land, the man has to agree to be bought over isn’t it? And if someone has grabbed a land, we are in a civilian regime; the court is there to give justice.

    From your experiment of switching to sweet from green sorghum, how easy has it been for the farmers to do this switch?

    Very easy. It is just a question of giving them our seeds, we have developed our own seed. The farmers that we are going to be working with, we will help them to cultivate their land, fertilize and put pesticides. During harvest time, whatever they harvest will be brought to us, we will weigh it and buy from them. That is the kind of agreement we have signed with many of the farmers. Every part of sweet sorghum is useful, the leaves, the grain of course is food and even the stalk, we crush, extract the juice.

    How will that work and how much will it add to Nigeria’s power generation?

    It will add tremendous amount. For instance we are trying to develop our pilot scheme in Ekiti State. It is going to generate 15 megawatts of electricity and all of that we will utilise about nine megawatts for our production and the remaining six megawatts we will distribute to the surrounding locality because it is too small to go into the national grid. In the fully developed plant, we will be producing 30 megawatts, which gives you additional money. So from waste, we are making money and the leaves also you will feed to the cattle because it is very nutritious. In 90 days, the cow becomes huge. Feed them with sorghum leaves and in 90 days you will have huge cows. So if you buy the cows for N30,000, feed them with sorghum leaves, in 90 days you are ready to sell for N120,000. Every part of a sorghum plant is useable, even after the process, the waste water is also fertilizer; you mix the effluent water with animal drop and pump it back into the land.

    So this is not only about producing clean energy, it is also about agriculture?

    It is an agro allied industrial complex where so many things are linked together. The farmer produces the grain, leaves and stem. That’s his own job, and then moves to the man who crushes, moves the juice to the one who will ferment, the bargass moves to electricity generation and part of it is used for the national grid and produces more electricity for more Nigerians. Then your cow is dropping for you every time because you feed it with the leaves. After your refining process the water that is left is mixed with the droppings and then pumped back to the land. So what you take from the land you return to it, that ensures sustainability, it is a foolproof sustainable production process.

    The Ekiti pilot project, tell us about it.

    We are working with the state government because of the share quantity of what we need. But the details are not for public consumption yet, we are developing in other states as well, it is such an important programme that Nigeria cannot afford not to develop. We have the potential to surpass Brazil in biofuel production. Presently, Brazil produces about 70 percent of the biofuel that is consumed in the world, we can surpass Brazil and this is what the Brazilians themselves told us. We have the land and the people to cultivate.

    We are learning from everybody, we learnt from the Brazilians, we know that the Brazilian method will not work in Nigeria; we only have spots in Nigeria where you can grow sugarcane. We have also learnt from the Americans, the Canadians. There has never been any record of them failing. We heard about that from the Chinese themselves.

    You speak about biofuel and the need for Nigeria to move away from the current system. What is wrong with the present system with fossil fuel, after all we are not the largest contributor to climate change.

    Fossil fuel destroys our environment, on daily basis it throws up millions of carbon in the atmosphere. We have about 2.5 million cars in Lagos; you imagine how much carbon they are throwing in the atmosphere, which sticks together and can stay for up to 120 years. This is the greenhouse effect which excessively warms the planet earth. There is excessive heat on one place and the other it is flooding. In Nigeria, are suffering from the worst effect of climate change. For almost 20 years now, but people are not paying attention, in school in the old times did you ever hear of sand dunes inside Nigerian territory? Never, in those days when you are travelling abroad, you would have left Nigeria before you see sand dunes. But today it is only about 35 nautical miles from Kano. It has eaten up a large chunk of the north.

    Desert encroachment has greatly affected those living in that area and they are cattle rearers with thousands of cattle. One day they wake up and see their land has been taken over by sand so what do they do? They take their cattle and move on, in their thousands. Now the sand dunes move at the rate of 380 meters per annum, it is very gradual but it goes on steadily. Now the farmers who moved their cattle will move into other people’s land. You wake up one day and find thousands of cattle on your farm. Then we have clashes as far south as Anambra, Ogun, Oyo, Ondo. There is social unrest, 15 million people have been displaced, where will they find work? This is the effect of climate change. Lake Chad had a volume of 24,000 square kilometres of water in 1963; today it is less than 10 percent of that volume. There is no more Lake Chad in Nigeria, it is now in Cameroon. All the 15 million Nigerians who depend on it are now jobless. This is caused by excessive consumption of fossil fuel. Look at soil erosion in the East, the flood of last year. Climate change is a subject that has to be addressed.

    What has been government’s response to this project?

    We have been on it for five years. Government is sympathetic. We have signed an MOU (Memorandum of Understanding), with the Federal Ministry of Trade and Investment to develop our project in 15 states of the federation. But it has not been easy because the banks will not touch anything green. We have shown them everything and even taken them to China but they still ask can this work in Nigeria? It is not easy for an individual or a group of people to develop a project of this magnitude, we require government support and I have a firm believe that the present administration will do something. The multiplier effect is huge, the job creation, our infrastructure will develop. A state with 20 megawatts of power is okay, that means you are self sufficient.

    Talking of job creation, you said the project will create 8000 direct employment and 50,000 indirect. How do we measure this?

    This is very simple, we have done the calculations. A standard biofuel farm needs about 7,000 hectares of farmland, one farmer is able to manage five hectares, you divide 7,000 by five and know the number of people you need. There is the supervisor and the superintendent then the boss. That is the farming. Then you need massive number of people to do your cattle rearing, and other things. You have the housing estate because we are going to house all our staff, the plant employs about 230 people. For direct employment we are looking at 8,000 and indirect is 50,000

    When is this going to start?

    Soon. I will not be able to give you the exact month but the pilot will start this year.

    But when you start what will be the initial capacity

    The first plant will be producing like 103,000 litres per day that is like a drop in the ocean, we will blend up to E-5. That is five percent ethanol mixed with 95 percent gasoline. Ethanol is cheaper than petrol. It will help to force down a bit the price of petrol. In China, they introduced the blending city by city. Nigeria can do something similar, we can start from Ado- Ekiti, whatever we produce, and they blend in Ado- Ekiti and get designated station to sell it. The beauty of this is that we can easily replicate the model.

    If I am using fossil fuel in my car, and I want to switch to bio fuels, do I need to drastically change the mechanical and electrical components of my car in order to accommodate bio fuels.

    Up to the point of E-20, that is 20 percent ethanol and 80 percent gasoline, you don’t need any special switch. But above E-20, you will need to change the rubberized components of your vehicle. It is a simple operation, you change it to Vitol, ethanol will dissolve rubber in high concentration. It has happened in Lagos before, when some marketers brought in E-22 because it is cheaper and it destroyed many cars.

    Will importation not affect your business?

    Government ideally must not allow importation, because it will stifle the local industry. The government will not encourage it. The NNPC tried to do that before, we fought them to a standstill and the importation never happened. So we are looking forward to starting this industry in Nigeria.

    Would that not lead to monopoly by your company?

    There is no monopoly, for instance our raw material is patented, we have been franchising with other people. I cannot go to Oyo State without bringing people from there who would like to be part of it. They will own the plant but we have the technology and we are happy to share, we will work together. It’s better we franchise with like minds. The rate of unemployment in Nigeria is massive; all the people that have been displaced by global warming must be re-engaged. If we start planting sorghum in those places we have desert encroachment, it will be checked and it will prevent farmers from moving south with their cattle. The cattle will be fed sorghum leaves and they will be fine. So, it will reduce the level of tension nationwide.

    You are passionate about most of the things you do. You have been credited with pioneering a number of things in Nigeria. You spearheaded Nigeria’s entry into space, you are pushing cleaner energy and a number of others. What drives you to become the first?

    It is not about me trying to become the first but God that pushes me into all these things. At the time we went to space, we faced a lot of challenges, but we had a president that listened to us. World Bank, International Monetary Fund (IMF) worked against it even Britain that collaborated with us on the project challenged us. But thank God space industry in Nigeria is now well developed; we are no push-over. If America can hear us from space we can also hear them. We are equal in that aspect. Some of the spin-off industry attached to the space is broadband. That was how E-government came to be. In those days when you want to check your WAEC result it is a whole day affair. Today, you can check it on the phone. When we said this is possible, thank God we had a government that believed in us. You can move money in your bank today without going to the bank, I don’t go to the bank anymore, I do my transactions online. It has made life very easy for us. I believe the biofuel project will succeed. It may suffer like the others but it will not die.

    Beyond all these how do you relax?

    I play golf (laughs). Unfortunately, when you are doing a serious project like this you don’t have time for anything; every other thing is a distraction, even to listen to music. Look at me I used to love music so much but now you are disturbing me playing music. It’s work and home and my life has been really boring. My children complain, I don’t go out with friends, but I do that once in a while.

    Relaxation is good; I go to church, read my Bible and exercise in my room. I try to eat well, and take a lot of rest. So I am not stressed.

  • I always take some pregnancy control pills, would it affect my womb?

    Good morning ma. I’m Gold from Abia State. Ma, I’be been reading your articles in The Nation newspaper, it’s nice and encouraging. Ma, pls, I’m worried about something – I got pregnant for a guy that I loved so much. I took some drugs and flushed it out. After that, whenever I’m having sex with him, I always take some pregnancy control pills. Please ma, would it affect my womb? Please I need a reply. Thanks and God bless.

    Many women are not aware of the serious health implications of birth control pills. First, let’s understand how birth control pills work in your body. Typically, your body ovulates once a month, ripening a new egg that will then journey down a fallopian tube. Eventually it reaches the uterus, where it would implant, if fertilized. If not fertilized by a sperm, then the lining of the uterus that had built up in preparation for the fertilized egg is unnecessary. Both egg and uterine lining leave your body, cleansing your system and preparing for a new month.

    When you take birth control pills, you impose synthetic hormones on your natural cycle. Many birth control pills contain high levels of estrogen that effectively convince your pituitary gland that you are pregnant (this explains some of the side effects of the drugs) and that you don’t need to ovulate. Because your body thinks you are pregnant, the uterine lining thickens. Once you start the placebo pills, however, your estrogen level drops suddenly, and your body menstruates “normally.” This abnormal cycle is what millions of women experience every month, and yet few doctors discuss the consequences of taking these prescriptions for year after year.

    Many of these changes occur as your body’s response to synthetic estrogen. These changes include: larger breasts, weight gain or loss, reduced or increased acne, slight nausea, emotional sensitivity right before your period, mood swings throughout your cycle, irregular bleeding or spotting, breast tenderness and decreased libido. Sometimes birth control methods are very necessary for preventing unwanted pregnancies, but I urge you to learn more about other natural options that do not damage your health. Condoms (both male and female), the diaphragm and cervical cap are all reasonable options for birth control.

  • The problem is my vagina

    Good evening Aunty Adeola. My name is Joy and I’m 20 years old. Aunty, the problem I have is with my vagina, anytime I want to have sex with a man, it is always so painful that I can’t bear it. This has caused many problems between me and the young man I’m dating. Please I need your help. What can I use to treat this?

    In many cases, a woman can experience painful sex if there is not sufficient vaginal lubrication. When this occurs, the pain can be resolved if the female becomes more relaxed, if the amount of foreplay is increased, or if the couple uses a sexual lubricant.

    In some cases, a woman can experience painful intercourse if one of the following conditions is present:

    Vaginismus -This is a common condition in which there is a spasm in the vaginal muscles, mainly caused by the fear of being hurt.

    Vaginal infections -These conditions are common and include yeast infections.

    Problems with the cervix (opening to the uterus) – In this case, the penis can reach the cervix at maximum penetration, so problems with the cervix (such as infections) can cause pain during deep penetration.

    Problems with the uterus These problems may include fibroids that can cause deep intercourse pain.

    Endometriosis – A condition in which the endometrium (tissue lining the uterus) grows outside the uterus.

    Problems with the ovaries. Such problems might include cysts on the ovaries.

    Pelvic inflammatory disease The tissues deep inside become badly inflamed and the pressure of intercourse causes deep pain.

    Ectopic pregnancy- A pregnancy in which a fertilized egg develops outside of the uterus.

    Menopause – The vaginal lining can lose its normal moisture and become dry.

    Intercourse too soon after surgery or childbirth

    Sexually transmitted diseases. These may include genital warts, herpes sores, or other STDs.

    Injury to the vulva or vagina. These injuries may include a tear from childbirth or from a cut (episiotomy) in the perenium (area of skin between the vagina and the anus) that is made during labor.

  • Babies making babies

    As the controversy over the law on underage marriage rages on in the country, different sides have taken stands on the sensitive issue, with none ready to shift ground.

    Besides the social, cultural and legal aspects of this controversial law, the area that those who don’t see anything wrong in children getting married and having babies, need to consider seriously is the health and medical implications. Perhaps, they need to take a trip to the nearest VVF centre in the country. For the uninformed, these centres are places where victims of Vesico Vaginal Fistula (VVF) and Recto Vaginal Fistula are treated and rehabilitated. VVF is a devastating medical condition characterized by an abnormal opening between the vagina and the urinary bladder that results from unrelieved prolonged obstructed labour, usually caused by an underdeveloped pelvic girdle.

    In most cases, the girl’s injured pelvic tissue breaks down, leaving a hole or fistula between the bladder and vagina which results in continuous leaking of urine and or faeces. In many cases, these victims, due to the smell they give off, are abandoned by families and friends and live in isolation, ostracized from the rest of society.

    VVF is a negative fallout of early marriages and child pregnancies.

    A colleague of mine who did a story on this serious life-threatening medical condition some years ago visited a few of the centres while researching the story. He came back with tales of pain, misery and human suffering beyond belief. He said most of the girls at the centre were condemned to living as outcasts in their society as they had been rejected and abandoned by their families and friends ‘including the husbands who put them in their miserable condition in the first place.’ What he saw, he stated made him weep. Now this my colleague is a hardened, tough-as-nails journalist who has seen a lot in the course of his work and is not easily moved. So for him to react in such a manner shows the extent of the horrible condition in which these poor girls find themselves.

    One phrase readily comes to mind in this matter and which is: ‘You can’t cheat nature’. Nature knows best and that is why it takes its time to prepare a female’s body for the arduous role it has been created for- that of ‘replenisher of the species’. It’s a woman’s role to reproduce so that the world will always be filled with people. Note that I used the term ‘woman’ and not child.

    If nature had intended children to have babies, their bodies would have been fully formed from birth or at an early age say 8 or 10. But you don’t have to be a medical doctor to know that at the age of 10, a girl child’s body is still growing. At this stage, her reproductive organs are not yet developed enough to cope with the rigors of pregnancy, childbirth and motherhood which every woman who has undergone the experience will tell you is ‘no child’s play,’ or a picnic.

    Even animals and plants respect this salient law of nature. You don’t see a baby goat mating and giving birth. The same with chickens, dogs, cats, birds and other members of the animal kingdom. Their young are allowed to mature first before reproducing. Yet humans who are superior to beasts in the jungle, always do everything to contravene nature’s laws, with disastrous consequences.

    Some men, knowing fully well the terrible consequences of ‘babies having babies’ still derive joy in marrying children as young as their great-grand children’s age. They hide under the cloak of religion, culture and societal norms to perpetuate this inhuman act on these vulnerable children. The result of this practice which is more widespread in the country than you can imagine, is there for all to see.

    Recently, the Minister of Women Affairs and Social Development, Hajiya Zainab Maina, disclosed that Nigeria has the highest incidences of VVF in the world with an estimated 400,000 to 800,000 cases with 20,000 new cases added each year.

    She stated that VVF and Rector Vaginal Fistula are serious health problems in the developing world, including Nigeria where it contributes greatly to the country’s unacceptable high maternal mortality.

    This is a huge number of our youngsters whose lives have been truncated at an early age due to no fault of theirs but being born in a society where a female is a ‘disposable commodity.’ She can be married off at 11 and divorced or abandoned at 14 when VVF strikes and no-one cares. We live in a truly evil society.

    There is one question Nigerians need to ask our ‘distinguished’ Senators, most of whom are fathers and grandfathers- will any of them (including unrepentant child bride practitioners

    Iike Senator Yerima) give out their 13 year old child in marriage to a 70 year-old Papa? I bet the answer is a resounding No! Many of them with school age children have their kids schooling abroad in some of the best schools in the world. Yet due to perverse desires, selfishness and crass ignorance, refuse to protect the weak and helpless in the society.

    Renouncing this obnoxious law so as to protect our young girls against predatory older men who destroy their lives in the name of early marriages, has nothing to do with religion as no religion condones human misery in any form. It is about justice, human rights and the well-being of our vulnerable children who need to be educated and nurtured to grow up as responsible adults. Not groomed to be a senile, old man’s plaything and sex object!

  • ‘I supported  my husband  to end  military  rule’

    ‘I supported my husband to end military rule’

    You don’t have to look further than Justice Fati Lami Abubakar for the truism in the old  dictum  that behind every successful man, there is a woman, following her full disclosure of  the moral support she gave her husband, General  Abdulsalami Abubakar (rtd), towards  voluntarily handing  over power  to a civilian government  after 16 years of military rule in 1999. The Chief Judge of Niger State, the amiable, soft-spoken one-time Nigerian First Lady, is  the first female Chief Judge in Niger State and the second in   northern Nigeria. She told  MORAKINYO ABODUNRIN, ASSISTANT EDITOR, how she stood behind her husband in those heady days of transition from military to civilian government. Excerpts…

    Until recently when you were made the Chief Judge of Niger State, nothing much has been heard about you since your husband (General Abdulsalami Abubakar (rtd)) handed over power as the Head of State, was it deliberate?

    It is quite possible that you have not heard much about me personally but I’m sure you must have heard about my pet project: Women Rights Advancement and Protection Alternative (WRAPA). WRAPA is a Non- Governmental Organisation (NGO) which we started towards the tail end of my husband’s regime as the Head of State. In fact, WRAPA has become a model for so many others who started NGOs after us; WRAPA is all about social justice for women and children and it addresses gender issues and human rights. Though I have not always been in the corridors of power, I grew up along and I have been privileged to attend so many conferences where women usually lamented about the fact that they were not enjoying equal rights as the men folk. So after due consultations, I thought the time was ripe to have a body to be at the vanguard of women issues and that was what gave birth to WRAPA to cater for the rights of women. We give legal advice as well as supporting women in difficulties. We believe that a lot of the abuses and intolerances we have in the society today are against the women. Women have to deal with a whole lot of issues and they need to be empowered in order to get freedom and be self sustaining. This is part of what I have been doing and by my own nature, I prefer to act than to be all over the place just talking; and that may have accounted for why I have not been in the public glare. But WRAPA is doing very well in propagating some of my ideals.

    There are people who believe that the common man cannot actually obtain justice in the Nigerian system, are you not worried about such scepticism?

    I believe that the common man, in fact, both the rich and the poor, can get justice in Nigeria particularly if he knows the right thing to do and the right place to go. If the people go to court as at when due and seek redress, surely they can always obtain justice. I think the problem we have overtime is the public perception that it is only the rich that can get justice because of the challenges the country is facing. Of course, the judiciary is part of the system but I don’t think it is true that it is only when you have money that you can actually get justice in Nigeria. The Nigerian judicial system has passed through many stages and reforms down from the colonial era till today and over time; there have been meaningful reforms which have allowed the courts the power to dispense justice without fear or favour. Of course, there are various courts that the people can avail themselves of in order to seek justice and that is why it baffles me when some people believe it is only when you have money that you can obtain justice. Yes, you have to pay some money when you go to court because the courts are not been run like a charity organisation; but what you pay as filing fee and all that are mere token particularly at the grassroots, the magistrate level, so that more and more people can revert to the court when seeking redress. Yet, the issue remains whether people avail themselves properly and use this opportunity or if the operators of the system are doing their work well. I know over the years, there have been issues of corruption in the system but I believe it is the responsibility of every aspect of the society to ensure that we put a stop to all these unbecoming problems.

    As the number one person in the state’s third arm of government, which is the judiciary, how are you going to deal with the issue of corruption in the system vis-à-vis your priorities during your tenure?

    My priority is to ensure that the judiciary is put in a position to discharge its constitutional duties to the extent that the confidence of the people would be deeply rooted in it. Of course, there are constraints and challenges that go with all human endeavours, but I want a situation that people would take responsibility, for their actions. I want to strengthen the Judicial Service Commission which is responsible for appointment, discipline amongst other duties, to continue to deal with any unwholesome attitude and behaviours. We are going to ensure that we clean the system in order to repose confidence in the public about the judiciary. Of course, we need the help of the people to weed out the bad eggs in the system because without any report, we can hardly do anything. Even in reporting any infraction, we want people to be very honest without being frivolous; all genuine cases would be dealt with. By and large, we shall equally protect our own people from spurious allegations, because, unfortunately in this country, the only time people give credits to the courts is when they have won cases and it is only when people lose at the court that you hear all manner of stories. We need to educate people to know that in every situation no two people can win the same case at the court at any given time because what the court deals with is the truth in the eyes of the law. In fact, that is why there are alternative actions in resolving issues amongst which is the ATR- the Alternative Truth Commission- which at the end of the day can help people resolve their grievances and shake hands. In fact, I believe people can be happier if they make use of these alternatives in resolving their disputes not forgetting the fact that the regular court is the last refuge for the people.

    Was it part of your dreams to read Law while you were growing up or was there any particular thing you actually wanted to do?

    Really, I don’t know (general laughter). First and foremost, you have to go to school and that was a dream; and you don’t actually know what you are going to do until you get older. At one point, I wanted to be a doctor but of course, I jettisoned it in my Form Five when I had to drop physics which was giving me problems. Though I had chemistry and biology, I did not have another science subject which was a prerequisite coupled with the fact that mathematics was a no-no for me, I had to give up the dream of becoming a doctor. Yes, of course I knew that I was going to go to the university but I never gave a thought about what I really wanted to be as things changed due to other significant factors. So as I said, it was Physics that actually stopped me from doing my HSC (Higher School Certificate) in science. I then had to do Literature, History and French in HSC to be able to do something else. Even then, my first choice was Sociology but I changed to Law afterwards. There was no regret that I finally ended up reading Law because basically, Medicine and Law are quite important because they are professional courses that are very important in the life of human beings.

    Did you envision yourself rising to the position of a Chief Judge of a state when you eventually picked Law?

    No. I never thought as much. What I was sure of was that I was going to have a university education, given the fact that my father (the late Waziri of Minna, Alhaji Umaru Audu) put a lot of premium on education. There was no dichotomy about whether you are a boy or a girl and he had always impressed that on us. He gave all of us the same opportunity in furthering our education. He did the best for all of us…

    How many were you?

    We are seventeen, altogether.

    How did he manage to raise all of you (general laughter)?

    Obviously, he didn’t have 17 children at a go. Really, I wouldn’t know how he managed it because we all went to some of the best schools. But I suspect he must have done a lot of budgeting to be able to put us all through schools but I think he was not that kind of person that was obsessed with unnecessary luxury. He was spare in his ways of life because we didn’t lack anything really. But I think we were very luck in our time for obvious reasons. I went to the mission school for my primary education and did my secondary education in government school. In those days, particularly in northern Nigeria, there was something that was called pay as you earn and it was organised in such a way that if you have four children or more in government schools, you only pay for a maximum of three children while the others are tuition free irrespective of where they are schooling so far it’s within the northern region. Again, we were virtually on scholarship for our tertiary studies in as much as you were able to secure an admission. I remember I had admission to Ahmadu Bello University (ABU), Zaria and University of Ife (now Obafemi Awolowo University, Ile Ife) simultaneously and when I went to the scholarship board they asked me which one was my preference’ and I told them I wasn’t sure of what I really wanted.’ I was asked to come back when I’m ready; I don’t think that can happen now. Obviously, that did help my father in some ways. I remember that after my secondary school (Our Lady’s High School in Kaduna), I went to Federal Government College for my HSC where I didn’t pay any tuition at all because I was on scholarship like indigenes of that state. The same was applicable while in the university with my other siblings.

    What do you think is stopping government today to replicate such laudable programmes?

    I think the major hindrance would be the size of the population we have today compared with what we had then. Frankly, I don’t think the government can do as much as they were doing before. Of course, government is trying the best it could but I don’t think it can be done at the same level as we had then.

    How did it feel being Nigeria’s First Lady at some point?

    It was quite an experience….

    Can you please share some of those experiences?

    What exactly do you want me to say because it’s a whole lot of experiences?

    Okay, was it deliberate that there was no elaborate project on your part as the First Lady vis-à-vis what was obtainable before then and even now?

    I think we didn’t stay too long (general laughter). But seriously, I don’t really know what you mean by elaborate project. I did what I needed to do in my own simple way because that is just my style. I complemented the efforts of my husband by undergoing visits during that period. Of course, I’m not in a position to judge others because while I was there, I was only interested in doing the NGO- Non Governmental Organisation- I mentioned at the outset which is just to help people. After wide range consultations, I decided to do something that I could continue with long after I might have left government, consequently we sourced for funds outside the government. It would have been easy to use my position to seek for donation here and there but that was never in my plans and we deviced other means of sourcing for funds. We tried as much as possible not to involve the government because immediately we do that, it becomes a government thing which will not outlive you in the office because others who are coming have their own ideas of what they want to do.

    What other things interest you?

    I love reading…

    Which book are you reading now?

    Right now, I’m not reading any particular book, rather I’m engrossed with Law books because there is no time. But one thing I can’t do away with when I have free time is to do my puzzle. I like puzzle.

    Why puzzle?

    Doing puzzle stimulates me and I like the challenge because it helps in adding to your vocabulary…being able to do cryptic as against the simple ones and the rest of it. Even my grand kids are so fascinated about it that anytime they come, they always want to do puzzle with me. This is one hobby that I have long cultivated. I socialise as much as I can.

    I think there is no way I should be talking with you without asking after General (Abdulsalami Abubakar, the former Head of State); what kind of person is the General?

    (Laughter) Yes, he’s my husband who is a very good father. What do you really want t me to say about him other than the fact that he’s my husband? Okay, he’s a very generous, very considerate person and what is the word that I can use (to give a complete description)? Of course, he’s very kind hearted and he is somebody who has filial feelings for other people; he is very soft and very firm.

    How did General come your way or did you have the premonition that you were going to marry somebody like him?

    You know we all grew up here in Minna in the same neighbourhood and in fact, our family houses are a stone throw from each other’s about four or five houses away. Our parents were friends and you know in those days, it was a very close-knit society and our families were particularly very close. I grew up knowing him as an elder brother for a particular time until something changed (general laughter).

    What happened at that point that ‘something changed’ because this was somebody you used to see as an elder brother?

    Of course, the change did not come suddenly like that, you know what I mean. It didn’t come in one day rather it was a gradual process and our attitude towards one another changed gradually.

    How did it work since both of you were pursuing different careers since. He is in the military and you were pursuing your career in Law, did it affect the raising family?

    Actually, I did Law in his house. We got married in 1972 just before I went into the university. So I did by LLB in Law, NYSC and all that in his house. Obviously his attitude to life had a lot to do with my success because he gave me all the opportunity to do all that I wanted to do in terms of pursuing my education and my professional career. It was easy because he gave me the support all the way. In fact, I was actually having children while I was in the University and I didn’t employ a nanny, rather it was his step mother who actually brought him up that was taking care of my children. You know it was quite easy in those days and when I had my first child, his step mother came for the naming ceremony and she didn’t go back until she died. The same thing with my grandmother who came almost about the same time…so they were the people taking care of my children for me and that really helped because I can go anyway knowing well that they were in capable hands. My mother-in-law actually died about seven years ago but my grandmother is still very much alive, but of course, I have got nannies to take care of her now (general laughter).

    Longevity must be running in your family if you still have your grandmother around, how old is she now?

    Yes, I think you are right and we thank God for that. Definitely, my grandmother is well over 100 years of age; in fact we don’t know her exact age rather we just hazard a guess based on some of the things she had said happened when she was growing up.

    What about your mum, is she alive?

    My mum died in 2009…

    By the way, why didn’t you prevail on the General to stay a bit longer when he was the Head of State?

    My interest always is to do anything that would enhance my husband’s integrity and his welfare and I would never do anything or encourage what could jeopardise that. There is no way I could mount any pressure on him to do anything that is against his interest or anything that he is pursuing. That can never arise at all.

    But stories abound about some first ladies who mounted pressure on their husbands to extend their stay longer than necessary…

    I think there is no truth in some of these stories; it is all just about perception of people outside the corridors of power. There is no woman that would want to put the life of her husband in danger or put her husband in a position that would be detrimental to the welfare of her family. I want to believe that no woman would want to do that but people make a lot of conjectures and perception about some of these things.

    You actually spoke about the General as somebody who is nice and kind-hearted, but how do you respond to allegation that he had a hand in the death of Chief MKO Abiola?

    I have nothing to say about that because it is not part of my purview.

    As we are rounding off this interview, what are the things going through your mind?

    A lot of things are going through my mind and the most important is that I want to close and go to meet my family. But frankly, you cannot just sit down and start processing all what is going through the mind, my focus now is the interview with you.

    How do you define your fashion’s style?

    Style from me? I don’t. Anybody would tell you that they have come for fashion advice from me though I won’t say I’m not conscious of fashion. But I like wearing simple things; anything that suits me and I feel comfortable in it. Sometimes when I buy things that I thought they are very good and fine, my daughters would tell me that ‘ it is not okay because they are old stuff ’ and that is to tell you that I’m not a fashion follower as such. I love it simple and I like good things.

    Finally, what will WRAPA be doing in the coming five years?

    As I told you earlier, we are networking with both local and international organisations in order to achieve our goals and objectives. At present, we are in partnership with the government of The Netherlands and we recently opened about 10 skills acquisition centres which we donated to communities across the country for women and we are going to continue to do more. We also act like a pressure group on gender issues so that government can put in place policies that are favourable to women. We would continue to do things within the limit of our pockets and pray that God continue to bless our modest efforts.

  • What can I do to have bigger breasts?

    Aunty, I’m in my 20s but I have small breasts and I have had to be using padded bras to hide my shame. What can I do to have bigger breasts?

    How to make small breasts look bigger

    By Ben Rubenstein Ideally, every woman should be happy and comfortable with the body she has. Unfortunately, many women are not. If you’re unhappy with your breasts and want to make them appear larger and firmer, read on for tips and tricks on how to achieve that without surgery, pills or the Boob Pop product.

    •Practice good posture. This is by far the least expensive and fastest way to make your breasts look bigger. Hold your head up, shoulders rolled back and down, chest forward and spine straight. This alone can make your breasts look bigger and perkier, as well as making you look slimmer and taller.

    Build up your upper pectoral muscles (working out lower pecs will actually decrease your bust size). Increasing the bulk of the muscles beneath your breasts will make them appear firmer and more rounded. Regular push-ups are one way to achieve this; build up slowly until you can manage to drop and do 15 push-ups all at once. There are also many weight training exercises you can do to build chest muscles.

    •Focus on your waist. Slimming and shaping your core (the muscles around your waist and ribs) will make your breasts appear larger by comparison, without actually adding any breast tissue. Try yoga and pilates exercises that can help you burn calories while simultaneously strengthening your core muscles.

    •Wear the right bra size. Sadly, most women wear incorrect bra sizes because they’ve never been appropriately measured. The right bra should sit snugly beneath your breasts and cup all of the tissue closely, as well as making it easier for you to stand up straight. Measure your bra size yourself, or go in for a free professional fitting at a department store. (Don’t feel shy about being professionally fitted––usually the ladies who do fittings are chosen for their warm and accepting demeanor. Remember, she’s probably seen it all.)

    •Know how to put on a bra correctly. Once you’ve been properly sized, check that you’re putting on your bra in a way that will achieve maximum lift and comfort. Slip the straps over your arms, facing forward, so that the unhooked clasps are at your back. Bend over so that all of your breast tissue falls forward, and maneuver the bra over your breasts. Still bent over, reach back and clasp the bra. Adjust the band and straps as necessary.

    •Wear bras that enhance your breasts. There are many options available, so the best way to work out what gives you your desired effect is to go and try lots of different types on. The following types of bras are the best for women wanting bigger breasts:

    Push-up bras are designed to push your breasts up (as the name implies), and move the breasts closer together, creating more cleavage. They push the breasts up using padding usually made of foam. The best known brand for making push-up bras is Wonderbra. However, most lingerie stores supply some variety of push-up bra.

    Padded bras, like push-up bras, contain foam padding in the cups. They are designed to give fuller-looking breasts to small-chested women, but don’t lift them or create extra cleavage.

    Gel, air or water padded bras are the same as padded bras but are designed to look and move more naturally, and to give a more noticeable enhancement. The only downside to these is that they often cost more money. Also, air padded bras often need the padding replaced as the air leaks out.

    •Wear clothes with a detailed neckline. Lace, ruffles and jewels, gathered material, pleats, ruching and twists are some examples of neckline details that enhance breast size appearance. These sorts of details provide a visual boost and help to make the breasts appear larger. When wearing ruffles, be careful that they are not so big that they overpower the size of your breasts; this risks going the other direction and making them look smaller!

    Stay away from low V or low scoop necklines, as give the appearance of shrinking the size of your breasts. Instead, wear moderately high, asymmetrical, crew or gathered necklines. These are the most flattering for women with smaller breasts as they enhance their shape and make them appear bigger.

    •Avoid wearing tight-fitting clothing. Obviously, such clothing reveals all––what is and what is not there. Loose, roomy tops and layers are a better choice when you don’t want to draw attention to smaller breasts.

    •Live with the reality. Small breasts aren’t the burden they may seem to you. For starters, not everyone loves large breasts. Indeed, it’s an exaggeration that men only like women with large breasts––everyone has their own preference. Moreover, small breasts tend to hold up best over time, and gravity tends to be lot kinder to the small-breasted woman as you age; you’ll sag a lot less than your big-breasted sister. As long as you are healthy, try to be happy with your body.

  • I want to leave him for a while, but for how long will I keep off?

    There was a write-up of yours I read about ‘ways someone can get his/her ex back.’

    One of d points is to stop calling for a while, but the time one needs to ignore him/her wasn’t specified, maybe it is weeks, months or years. What happened in my own case is that he refused to tell me it was over but his action tells me that the relationship has already ended because he doesn’t pick my number again with the excuse that he’s busy or not with his handset whenever I call with my line and I’m trying to control myself from asking him questions or telling him what to do because he says I complain and nag a lot which he caused.

    What really broke the camel’s back between us was that I added one of his Facebook friends who I’d teased him once maybe they were dating. But before this, we’ve had an issue on a female Facebook friend before then. I’d begged and even unfriended that lady. I’d said sorry more than  one billion times through text etc and I’ve even tried for us to see because we are not in the same state but he’s avoiding me. If I call with my line he will be busy (according to him), but if I use another line he will pick and respond to me very well as a casual friend. There was a day I said I’m sorry and asked that is there a second chance in his dictionary, but he said he didn’t tell me that we’ve ended the first one that so what am I talking about. Though, I don’t talk about the issue of that lady again but if I try to ask him what was my offence and that let by-gone be by-gone, he will say I didn’t offend him that he has told me several times to stop talking like that. Though he twice said I don’t know the kind of things/words I don’t suppose to use to play with somebody and I’m kind of person that like to tease people especially if we’re dating at times I can pick my phone and send a nasty text message to him just to say hi. He has refused to tell me my offence which makes the whole scenario annoying and painful to me.

    I do call and text to say hi once in a while, but since I read that write-up I want to leave him for a while, but for how long will I keep off? – KF.

    Dear KF, from the content of your mail to me, I could see that you have the penchant for saying too much at once. If you give any guy the impression that you want to say it all at once, you shouldn’t be surprised if they run away. It is obvious that this guy wants a big breathing space, so why would you be disturbing him with all those text messages and calls? When it is over in a relationship, the party making the move doesn’t want too much contact after moving on and they expect you to respect that.

    If you expect somebody to come back, give enough room for them to miss you. But when you’re always making yourself  too much available, they get angry and don’t even want to talk to you again.

    You give the impression of somebody who thinks nothing more than this guy. Common, occupy your mind with serious things. This relationship (or any at all) won’t get you anywhere in life. Face the most important things that will propel you to greater heights.  If you let this guy be today, you may look back in years to come and thank God you broke up in the first place. Stop sending his text messages and stop calling him. Just stop it!

  • Help! We’re on the verge of divorce due to gossips and financial stress

    I need a job as a lawyer and need counsel on my ex-marriage to Segun Awolowo. We are on the verge of a divorce due to gossips & financial stress. Help. Tejumade Babatola writes.

    Hello Mada Babatola, I know that there are many people by that name, Segun Awolowo in Nigeria, but only a few of them are popular, so I would have expected you to state clearly that the one you mentioned in your text is not any of the popular ones. Well, that is that, let’s get down to the reasons you contacted me – financial stress and gossips in marriage.

    You’re at this season when you don’t have a job and you’re struggling financially. It’s always hard when someone faces a job loss particularly at this time in Nigeria. The way we deal with handling money and spending is unconsciously wired in childhood. If your husband is the one spending now on the family, he’s also the one paying school fees if you have kids, and the one keeping the family car in top shape (if you have one), it is natural for him to be under a little stress and that is why you must be considerate and be prudent. He will expect you at this period to help him save a little of what is left and he also wants to see that you’re making efforts to find either a job or a business to help augment his income. Not being very understanding with what he is able to provide can cause great conflicts. If he is not a rich man, it is critical to understand your husband’s hardship about money, spending, and provision. You should understand that apart from you and the kids; he will have family members too who would expect something from him every now and then.

    If you don’t manage the issue of his family well, your in-laws and would jump to conclusions about why you’re not working and how you’re ‘chopping’ his money alone. It is your responsibility to let them know the true situation of things. Some may believe you and some may not, it really doesn’t matter, at least it would be said that you made some form of explanation. If they are the ones gossiping, that’s okay once you know you’re doing the right things and making efforts to get something doing. Once in a while, pretend to be confiding in them and have safe conversations about your experience, fears and seek advice from them about what they think you should do. That way, you’re making them your friends and the gossip should soon die down.

  • ‘The civil war settled nothing’

    ‘The civil war settled nothing’

    General Alani Akinrinade (rtd), in this interview with Editorial Board Chairman SAM OMATSEYE, FEMI MACAULAY and OLAKUNLE ABIMBOLA speaks on the Nigerian Civil War, Alabi Isama’s book and other issues.

    Are you acquainted with the book by Alabi Isama?

    Yes; when he first wrote a draft or what I call perhaps a draft. It was in three volumes, big volumes and then he gave them to me to read. His first idea was that I should get it into a printable form. But I looked at it and told him that it would be the work of professionals. They know how to put it together. As far as I was concerned, there was so much tautology in it. One issue was brought out three times. It looked like the book of an angry man. The professionals would really sit down, look at it, get the facts out correctly and make it readable. But I had no problem with the facts, figures and things which he put in the book. It was just the presentation that I had reservations about. But that was many months, or maybe two years ago.

    General Alabi Isama said in his book that Obasanjo, in his My Command, misread the 3rd Marine Commando battle tactics at Onne for the entrapment of your troops, when it was indeed a decoy. Would you like to corroborate Osama’s claim?

    Yes, it was for me, in military terms, a tragedy – a tragedy in the sense that we lost more men and some equipment in the process which ought not to happen. But there were issues which led to that tragedy. I suspect that if anyone wants to be fair, he would now lay out all those issues and then weigh them against what the result was. But Obasanjo did not. Like I told Alabi, if you read Obasanjo’s book, you would be nauseated to the point of vomiting. But when he insisted that he wanted to read it, I got him two copies, not just one, if he really wanted to make himself unhappy.

    Obasanjo himself was not party to all those issues. He was in Ibadan at that time. It was (Benjamin) Adekunle who was in charge of 3 Marine Commando and the GOC. I was commanding Bonny, and we had an operational plan. I had been to see the divisional commander. I was not part of his division. The 15th division I commanded was an independent brigade; and we reported straight back to Lagos. But for the purpose of continuing operation in the riverine areas, the main objective was to capture Port Harcourt. We were very near, but we couldn’t get there by ourselves. So, if the Third Division was going into Port Harcourt, we had a very major role which we could play to secure Bonny channel, to make sure there was no interference; and also, if it was possible, stage enemy diversion from Third Division troops. That was the whole purpose. I had been to Calabar. We sat down in Adekunle’s headquarters. We all agreed to it. Then when the Third Division troops got to Opobo, I took a boat and found my way to Opobo to reconfirm that that operation was still on. Now when they left Opobo to cross the Imo river (the idea was if they were crossing the Imo river, a very substantial river because it went towards the Niger Delta estuary, and they were using pontoons to cross, since there was no bridge), it was necessary for us in Bonny to stage some operations to divert enemy attention from them, so that they could safely cross. That was what we didn’t do in Onitsha; and that was why we lost maybe up to 2000 to 3000 (soldiers). In Bonny we had what you call a brigade but I didn’t have more than 1,500 men, even though we called it a brigade. It was out of that small group that I had to take out maybe about maybe 500 men to go and do the operation. It was strictly an assault landing, in which case we had nobody on the other side. All we needed to do was to take boats and get into Onne. The village was just a few kilometers to the main road that led to Port Harcourt. So if we succeeded in getting to Onne and move out of Onne, we would have cut off everybody by the river crossing. That was the whole idea. We were supposed to be supported by artillery from those who are crossing; we were supposed to be supported by a little bit of air power. But what happened was that because they started crossing late, everything was concentrated on Bonny, so we didn’t get any support at all. Then secondly Lagos, who promised to send me a few equipment before the date, failed to do so. Col. Femi Oluleye was rear commander in Lagos. We landed in Onne all right, but instead of being there for say 24 hours, and the Third Marine Commando troops joining us, they never did. Even though Adekunle assured me that they had started to cross, they never did. So by the time we got to Onne, there was no help coming from anywhere. So we had to move out of Onne and go to Bonny again. It was in that process that we must have lost, maybe about 200 men. That was what happened. So when Obasanjo put what he didn’t understand in his book, I was just laughing because he didn’t know what happened there; and I think you don’t go around making comedy out of a very terrible tragedy. For me, 10 soldiers lost in an operation was a tragedy: what are you doing as an officer? What is your plan? What are you thinking about? So…

    (Cut in) That means without your operation there, Third Marine would not have been able to enter Port Harcourt?

    That’s right. But what Obasanjo didn’t say was that when the crossing now started, we repeated the operation and this time, we succeeded. But that first one was premature, absolutely premature and I take responsibility because it was stupid. I was their commander. Whether the GOC did or didn’t do his part, for me, was immaterial. Men are put under your charge as commander and I was responsible for them. We lost about 200.

    There was this guy Azuatalam, a Biafran officer – what was the story? It was said the guy was very brave and that and you fought him for five hours before finally capturing him?

    Yes it was Makanjola’s front, God bless his soul. It was my brigade but Makanjuola was the battalion commander in the area. When that skirmish was over, what really interested me about Azuatalam was that he wasn’t the commander there, he was one of the officers we captured when the operation was over. When finally he got to my headquarters and I looked at him, he was such a nice little boy and he was not really a soldier at such – I mean, not a trained soldier but he had secondary school certificate. He was a smart boy: he worked with me for about two or three weeks. So, I persuaded Adekunle: why don’t we send him to cadet school so he could really become a proper officer? Adekunle agreed and we talked to Gen. Gowon and we sent him to Lagos, and they sent him to Sandhurst and he became an officer. He’s in Port Harcourt now.

    He is still a soldier?

    I was a bit disappointed on that score. By the time he made captain, I think I was a general then, the next thing I knew was that he had left the army. He left as captain. So, I looked for him in Port Harcourt, I got him, he told me he wasn’t getting real satisfaction out of the job. He thereafter became a marine fellow, repairing boats and things like that.

    But it looks like you don’t want to talk about your own exploits in the place; the five hours that Alabi Isama talked about when you chased after him, he said he ran out of bullet, nd you ran out of bullets but you had to go get him?

    Yes, but you know when you have a unit you give them work to do. Unfortunately, the civil war was not the conventional war taught in school, where the commander sits at the back and he gives order; and expects his lieutenants to carry out the operations. Unfortunately you had to wake up at five o clock in the morning to make sure, even though your officers were there at the frontline, to get them to start the operation. You had to hang around in the evening to make sure that the operation was carried out. That was how 3rd marine commando worked throughout the operation and that’s why Alabi, even though he was chief of staff, for a long time was always at the front. You would do most of your writing works at night and this same night you travel round to join your troops at the front to make sure that the operation went well, otherwise nothing might happen. So I was there. It was normal. It happened every day. You got out there, you got surprises, you had to adjust yourself and get on with it.

    Yes, another fault: there again, we made another big blunder because we wanted to get to Uli Ihiala at all cost, so we thought if we got to Owerri, we could follow the Orashi river right up to Owerri lake, land on the other side – that is Oguta; and then come out. I think less than five kilometers from Oguta was the main road that links Owerri, Ihiala, Nnewi. So, if you came out of that road, the war was as good as over.

    That was Pincer 2 strategy?

    Yes, that was short cut. But then we sent Makanjuola there and he landed. He spent about two/three days there but unfortunately all the reinforcement that was supposed to come to Owerri, to now push a little bit to divide the front properly, never happened. So, the rebels concentrated on Makanjuola and they pushed him back to Oguta Lake. There were quite a number of small tragedies that happened during the war. But in this case we didn’t lose too many troops because we were smart enough to get out in time.

    You must have been very trusting sir, the Azuatalam guy was a Biafran officer. He could have been a traitor. To have converted him from Biafra to Nigerian army, was that not a big risk?

    Maybe. But I think at that stage of the war, we had come to the point where a lot of the so-called rebel officers-Biafran officers, even their men, seemed to think that whenever they were captured, that the war was over for them. That the loyalty they were talking about and the fervent Biafran thing about everybody singing the anthem and this and that didn’t go beyond when things are comfortable…..That’s my impression right from when I was in Second Division, to the operations in the Midwest. That was my impression. Each time you captured anyone and you treated him well, he forgot about the Biafran thing.

    Isama himself talked about Third Marine Commando; that Boro was the one training them; that when they got there, he trained them and at first he was sleeping with one eye open. But he discovered that the people were not a threat, after which he relaxed.

    My first encounter with riverine area was when I was abruptly posted to Bonny to go and take over the place but I did. I had three officers who I can never really forget. The first one was called Amangala George. He was a school principal, he had a master’s degree, he was my adjutant, I inherited him there. He was not a soldier but he was very intelligent

    He was Biafran?

    No! I think he is from Yenogoa. I am talking about the people who came from the riverine areas and then we had not captured Port Harcourt but we had Bonny so it was Bonny now that I met this George, he was my adjutant. Not a soldier but a make-shift soldier, he would just put on uniform and we started teaching him the regimen of how to fight. But he was a good administrator. He administered my headquarters. The other one was Yanayo , he was also a school teacher and the third one was Nottingham Dick. If you remember, Nottingham Dick was one of the persons sentenced with Boro. So, you can see these were people who had been involved, in one way or the other, in the liberation of the riverine areas. It was not really as articulated as it is today, as the area has now been carved into Rivers, Bayelsa, Delta, Cross River and Akwa Ibom states. Back then, it was Kalabari, Ndoni, Andoni, Ijaw, the pure riverine areas. That’s what Boro stood for but Port Harcourt, of course, used to be their headquarters. So, I met these three people there and I learnt a lot from them. First I had never done any canoeing or boating but in Bonny, there was no way of surviving for an officer. There was no way you could go looking at your troops without you really being able to use a canoe or to use a pontoon; and there was nothing worse than asking people to do things which you could not do yourself. So, I had to learn how to use a canoe, how to use a speed boat, things like that. So those were the things we learnt from people like Boro. Unfortunately, he went to Okrika and he got killed there. Many people got killed but that of Boro was significant because of what he stood for. But what Boro stood for we have refused to address till tomorrow. But if we don’t address these issues, Nigeria is not going to go very far.

    Could you substantiate a bit on that sir?

    Well, Boro formed what he called Niger Delta Volunteer Force and he was saying they didn’t want anybody to come and mine their oil and all that. Later on they gave it a name. They called it resource control. Some people later still called it restructuring of the system. That’s what Boro stood for. He decided that the only way to get attention was to go around molesting the oil companies and the rest of these insiders, he didn’t make it habitable for foreigners who were digging oil in the place. Well, he died during the war. The whole thing died down after the war because you had to do reconstruction, things like that. But there was a resurgence of it, championed by Saro-Wiwa (Kenule). Again, he approached it from a very sophisticated intellectual angle. But Instead of listening to him, they hanged him. They organized some people to lie and do whatever was needed to get rid of him. Now the third phase of it is the militant agitation involving Asari-Dokubo and co. What did we do? We gave them amnesty, we make them into tin gods and empower them. They are all billionaires now. But we haven’t solved the problem because tomorrow it is going to come back to us again. A new generation of them will come up, rebels with a cause. You cannot get rid of such a rebel unless you remove his cause. You are always going to get supporters for it until we go to the riverine areas and really set the place right.

    When I was in Bonny around 1967-68, if you could paddle a canoe and you got a basket and you went on the Bonny River, you could catch Cray fish, if they taught you a little bit about this thing. You could go to Okrika, at low water, and catch periwinkle –a basketful of it. All those things have disappeared and we are saying that the people don’t have a reason? Well I’m sorry for them. All they do now is to want to hold the presidency, which the Yoruba held for eight years and were worse off for it. When they hold it for eight years, they would also be worse off for it. So really it is either we sit down and really resolve this problem in the interest of everybody, not just in their own interest but in the interest of everybody. Let’s recognize the problems that we have in the country.

    That was one lesson I learnt during the war – Lesson because I could see in practical terms how they live in the riverine areas. Those of us who say they are very lazy people don’t even know that sometimes they go out for a whole week in the water catching fish, going from fishing pond to fishing pond and now when they come back to the village and they are sitting down in the morning to drink kaikai and all that, then you’ll say these people are just drunkards. But look, that is their lives. That is the dictation of living inside the creeks and bog where they live. Unless you sit and study, understand these issues, you won’t understand the problems; and you would understand even less the people.

    The question of people threatening us that they have kept their arms in the creeks and whenever we don’t do their bidding they are going to go back into the creeks, I take seriously. You know Boko Haram, and all that. So, let’s go to the root of these issues. I thought it was a privilege for me to have served in Bonny and in that riverine area, to go round meeting the people, seeing the villages and the way people lived, the conditions in which the people lived and what is their livelihood. I know we took 90 percent of their livelihood out of them. So if we get the oil, give them the money and let them go and organize themselves.

    I want to ask a question that may seem philosophical. I can take the difference in perspectives in civil war literature. What I can’t understand is the difference in facts in the narratives. Who is to be believed and why, in view of the distortions here and there?

    But you also know that even in the Acts of the Apostles, the disciples went with Jesus, all of them were supposed to be present but when they wrote, their versions were different, here and there: language, expressions, perceptions and interpretations. That’s why we have so many; Mark, Luke; and everybody wrote his own. I think that is one. But you will find that the facts are very close. In the case of the war, I expected that would happen. However, if you can’t correctly interpret whatever happened, you could at least narrate things as they happened. In that wise, those who were physically present there would have a much better account of what really happened.

    Isama was present there, Obasanjo was present there. Yet you find Isama coming out with counter points to Obasanjo’s own version?

    Yes, I think if Obasanjo had concerned himself strictly with the short time that he was in 3rd Marine Command and told factually what he saw, maybe his book would not have been so nauseating. But he didn’t. He embellished it. If you were not party to things, you don’t talk about them. If you are told about these things, you can verify them before putting them down in a book. I don’t think Obasanjo took enough pains to really find out about things, all in the process of trying to justify his stand or position. Why was Obasanjo the only general officer commanding present there at the formal signing of documents ending the war? How can he justify that? Was he the only person that fought the war? I don’t know why Nigerians didn’t ask questions: are you the only one who fought the war? He couldn’t get the other GOCs to be part of the formal surrender: of the First Division, Second Division, those who did it before and those who succeeded them and even Adekunle that Obasanjo succeeded. Why wasn’t Adekunle present there? These are issues which Nigerians ought to have asked; are you the only one that fought the war?

    You were not even there when the war ended, you were sitting in Port Harcourt. The matter had been settled in Owerri ever before you showed up. Achuza is still alive today and people can ask him. That made people like Alabi angry about Obasanjo’s claims. That’s why I said when I saw the draft, I told him it is a book by an angry man. Don’t destroy a very good book because you are also angry that somebody had done it in a very derogatory and incorrect way. So, that was why I thought somebody should edit the book. I only got a final copy of the book yesterday (July 7) when I visited him; and even then I have not been able to read him to see exactly how much the original copy has been altered. But I suspect he got some very good people to tinker with it.

    He suggested in the book that actually you were the person instrumental to the final surrender push. You were the one they really surrendered to. Would you want to tell us the last seconds of the war?

    Yes, I was the chief operation officer for Obasanjo and then like I said, at least in the Third Marine, when you order an operation, it is better for at least the chief operations officer, from headquarters, to be there when the execution takes place. So, in the last two days of the war, I had to move myself to Owerri. As soon as we got back to Owerri, I decided to stay there so that we could continue the operation. In the night, one of the officers came and woke me up and said that some rebels were looking for the GOC. They brought them to me. Their leader introduced himself and said that …

    Do you remember his name sir?

    Achuzia. We call him Air Raid. He wasn’t my friend anyway because he killed my friend in Port Harcourt. So, we talked…

    What friend did he kill in Port Harcourt?

    Halliday, the owner of Silver Valley.

    He wasn’t a soldier?

    No he was just a business man. He shot him in the front of his children and his wife. Till today one of his daughters never recovered from that trauma. She’s in America today. So Achuzia said he needed to get a message to the GOC. I explained to him that I wasn’t the GOC, I was only the operation officer for the division. However, my GOC was in Port Harcourt; and that I was prepared to do anything to minimize the carnage going on, if the talk was surrender. I said okay. It was 5 o’ clock that morning and we were supposed to start the final push; but that I had enough authority to stop it. But how was I sure his side would keep to the arrangement such that after we lost the momentum, we would not go back to fighting again? So I said, let’s go and see Effiong. Where is Effiong? I asked. He said he was in Amichi. How far away was Amichi? He said about a few minutes drive. So about 5: 30 in the morning, we left our own headquarters, I followed him. My brigade commander, Ola Oni, said he was going with me but I said no way! I told him, if in two hours you don’t see me or you don’t hear from me just start the operation, don’t worry about where I am, it doesn’t matter. So I took another young officer to follow me so we got to the vehicle and I noticed that as morning was coming, people were not interested in the war anymore. The Biafran soldiers sat down beside the road like refugees. Nobody had guns. Even for those that still had uniforms, you could see that for them, the war was over. Then, Achuzia made a request: just in case anything happened to us, he wanted us to visit his wife – can I call on my wife just to tell her that I’m okay because when I was coming here she said they were going to kill me? I said okay , why not? So we went to his house, in a small village. He had a very nice place and I said you people said you were fighting a war; and yet you can keep a bungalow like this in this place! So, we joked about it so he brought a brandy bottle and we poured libation and we drank and I assured the wife, a European, white lady, that the war was over.

    So we now drove to Amichi. Getting there, the time was now like 6: 45-7 in the morning and people were already anxious to find out what had happened to Achuzia. As we came out of the vehicle, among those who trooped out were three of my classmates: Ben Gbulie, Iheadigbo, Nwakwe! Then, some of my juniors were there too. So, I forgot what we came to do there, and were laughing and busy back-slapping, saying we were all so stupid to have allowed this thing to go on for this long,

    So where is Effiong, I asked. They said he was upstairs. We went upstairs and I met General Effiong. We were very close at the Army Headquarters before. Then he said something of an honourable surrender and all that. But I told him I didn’t care whatever he called it. All I knew was that the war was over; and they didn’t have one chance in hell of negotiating anything. If I were you, I told him, I would just give up and let everybody go home. So, we just argued about that a little bit and that was that. I told him I would have to take proper instruction from my GOC, since I had sent him a signal that I was leaving Owerri, to check some stories about rebel surrender. So, Obasanjo left Port Harcourt for Owerri. I came back around 11: 30 am, since we had spent so much time drinking and pouring libation. Shortly after, Obasanjo arrived and I briefed him and he said he wanted to see Effiong. So, he did. We then drafted a speech and agreed that Effiong should go to the radio station nearby to read the speech, saying the war was over; and that everybody should stop shooting. That was it.

    Thereafter, we agreed everybody should come to Port Harcourt, en route to Lagos. But as Obasanjo and the former rebel officers were leaving Port Harcourt for Lagos, I called our rear commander, then Lt. Col then, Emmanuel Abisoye. I told Emmanuel that these people were coming to Lagos; and that he should get accommodation for the visiting party and also get all the other divisional commanders. The idea was that the former rebels, the Nigerian divisional commanders and Obasanjo would go to Dodan Barracks for the formal surrender ceremonies. But it never happened that way. Abisoye arranged the accommodation. But the rebel officers never showed up. Obasanjo had lodged them in another place. When Abisoye eventually met Obasanjo, he told him he should alert and bring the other divisional officers to the surrender ceremony. But I blamed Abisoye, telling him he should have told Gen. Gowon. Anyway, Obasanjo didn’t call anyone and Abisoye was the only one who followed him.

    I think Obasanjo has a very acute sense of history and I think he was dying to be something someone had never been before and do something nobody had done before, not just in the military but also during his presidency. So, I think that was what motivated him and that is the reason people like Mohammed Shuwa, people like Murtala Muhammad, people like Ibrahim Haruna and Benjamin Adekunle never showed up at that armistice. So, he took all those photographs and then put them in his book. I thought that was very uncharitable.

    Was there any reaction by these excluded commanders?

    Nobody bothered. They were not like Obasanjo, all those people. These were just soldiers. I don’t think they were thinking of history or whatever. Their attitude was: let’s just get this job done and get on with it.

    We also learnt that from Isama’s book; he said that there was this long trip that George Innih took to Arochukwu, while you were getting the surrender?

    Yes, George was supposed to join us a day before because we had finished all the operations in the sector. He was supposed to bring most of his brigade to come and join us in Owerri, so together we could do the final push to Uli Ihiala …

    So Innih’s was on an Israelite’s journey?

    By the time he eventually came back, the battle was over.

    Isama also said in his book that Obasanjo was clueless about where you were at the surrender, and that he was looking for you, moving from one place to the other?

    Yes but we finally met in Owerri and I took him back to see Effiong.

    Interestingly sir, it was you I think who suggested Obasanjo to Gowon as GOC to succeed Adekunle?

    Yes, but those were very sad stories!

    Isama described Obasanjo as clueless and lacking depth. I just wonder: if you had seen Obasanjo in that light, would you have made the recommendation to Gowon?

    Those of us in Third Marine Commando knew we couldn’t post any officer to the division, who was not strictly southern, a Yoruba for instance, and expect him to succeed in the place. The way the place was structured, the people who either volunteered or were posted to serve there were mainly from the Yoruba West. So there is something about trust and you know this, and the third division needed very high handed discipline because of the terrain where we were, the people amongst whom we were operating. You cannot afford to upset them as such and you cannot operate in a place where you are tearing down the town. We had to keep the population ….and therefore we needed someone who understood what it was all about. Now if the idea, what happened in 1966 during the coup was anything to go by, it was a bit difficult for a northerner to operate in the southern part and get the trust of everybody. It was difficult. Murtala tried it and he did very well but when you look at the make-up of his divisions, they were mainly westerners.

    So you are confirming too that, as I asked Isama, that this war was actually inspired by the Hausa Fulani but the brain and the execution was by the Yorubas?

    Yes, really because they took part in some of the operations. If we had gone by what was happening in the northern sector and the rest of them, that war could have lasted like 10 years. It was the southerners who really injected some form of impetus into the war. There was this talk about in the present South-South, the Niger Delta. The people were friendly; they were supporters of federal government. But if you antagonized them, you wouldn’t get anywhere. Also, many of these people were also victims of the pogrom in the North. That was why I suggested Obasanjo to Gowon.

    The problem with Adekunle was that he was a very tired man. He had done well but he was tired. The law of diminishing returns had set in and he was getting a little bit irrational. Only yesterday (June 30) Isama gave me a book written by Adekunle’s son, one of his sons. I had never seen it before. But just going through, I now realized Adekunle had written in letters to Gowon, about all sorts of things; and in those letters he had insinuated that people were talking about him trying to take over the government and this and that. All these didn’t occur to me but I thought these were illusions. People must have been telling him: that he was the black scorpion, that he was bullet-proof and this and that; and all that was beginning to get into his head. We at the front we were beginning to see irrational behaviours and I said you can’t enforce, and I start taking orders that I know patently did not make sense. People started getting killed and that’s why I left 3rd division. I just came to Lagos and said look, if you people don’t have control over your GOC, I have no reason to serve under him. I left 3rd Marine and I came back to Lagos.

    The Obasanjo thing, I’m still curious. Apart from ethnicity which you said was important, what attributes did you see?

    The Nigerian Army was short of officers as at that time, we didn’t have too many choices anywhere. In any case, none of us had been to any war front apart from Congo. I just believed then that first of all, you couldn’t bring a northern officer to 3rd Commando as the GOC, it’s not going to work. Then, Obasanjo had been to Staff College or something. So, he had enough to recommend him to do a job that Adekunle was leaving. I think he had enough qualifications. He was an engineer officer. He wasn’t an engineer but he was posted to the engineering corps and there he learnt a lot on the job. He was also rear commander of Second Division in Ibadan. So, there was no reason he shouldn’t take over the Third Division from Adekunle. I was thinking in terms of writing him a confidential report or anything like that. He was my senior, anyway . We were just talking about possible replacements: there was Wole Rotimi there, there was Oluleye; there were very few anyway

    And Abisoye?

    Abisoye was already commanding the rear of 3rd Commando.

    There was this claim by General Isama that Adekunle indeed tried to kill both of you. Could you shed more light on that?

    Adekunle, when he was tired and became a bit irrational and started taking decisions, difficult to understand in military terms and refusing discussions, refusing what we thought was legitimate and reasonable advise, we just thought we had had enough. And then Alabi talked about the final situations, and two of us sat down and wrote a battle plan, which we submitted to him for discussion and eventual approval. But instead of discussing the plan, Adekunle wrote a scrap of paper: “Tactics Lesson 101. When am I expecting more tutorials?” So I said wait, this man has gone bunkers, so we had to leave. But as we went back to our headquarters, his provost officer came and told us that the GOC was going call a meeting and would ambush us and get us killed. But I told him Adekunle won’t do a thing like that. But he said sir, I know what I am talking about. So I said okay, what do we do? So I just decided: why should I serve under a man who will organize to get me killed – for what? So, I decided to get out of there. So, we commandeered ammunition and went back to Lagos. That’s why I’m not interested in writing my war memoirs. I think there are too many dirty things …

    How did the army high command take that? Was that some sort of desertion or what?

    (Laughs) I think most of the officers in the front were really getting out of their elements. I think we were all getting crazy a little bit in some ways. For me, I just felt I didn’t want anything from anybody, anymore. I didn’t start the war, am I supposed to finishe it? So, why should I do things that I don’t want to do? I admit: It was a question you should never ask in any army but everyone was getting crazy as the war was taking its toll. So, I just disappeared. I just went to Takwa Bay, took a small chalet, and started living there.

    Just like that?

    Yes! So that’s why I said I think we had all gone crazy. I was living in Takwa Bay until finally they found out that I was there. Gowon wanted to see me and I went to see him. At the meeting, it was on an evening, everyone was there: Gowon, Baba (Akinwale) Wey (Rear Admiral, chief of staff, Supreme Headquarters), David Ejoor (chief of Army staff), Hassan Usman Katsina, Adegbola (Police DIG)and others. But from the setting, it was far from a war meeting. It was more of an administrative one which, at war time, seemed rather amusing. I told them Adekunle had gone crazy; and that I didn’t want anything to do with him again. But Gen. Gowon insisted I should go back to 3rd Marine Commando to which I rather angrily retorted that I didn’t start the war. It was in the heat of this discussion that I suggested: “why don’t you send Obasanjo there?”, when it was clear Adekunle would be recalled. By then, a lot of things were happening in 3rd Marine Commando, reverses that suggested Adekunle was tired. So, he was recalled and Obasanjo replaced him. But when Obasanjo got to 3rd Marine, he found the division was not such an easy place. He needed some officers to assist him. It was then he insisted that the only way he would stay as GOC was if Isama and myself came back. That was how both of us went back.

    The reverses of Owerri led to the dusting up of Pincer 2. Obasanjo was apparently not aware of it until you radioed him that surrender had come. What was Pincer 2 all about?

    It wasn’t anything complicated. We had suggested it to Adekunle before but he said it was Tactics Lesson 1. So of course, the thing died a natural death. But we had the documents and we knew the situation in that sector of the war. We needed to capture three cities for the war to end: Owerri, Aba and Umuahia (OAU). Incidentally, there was some Organisation of African Unity (OAU) thing; and Adekunle decided we needed to do something dramatic before the OAU event, evidently inspired by the similarity in the OAU abbreviation. We now launched a frontal attack on Owerri, from which we lost too many men. Though we got close, we could not capture the town. So, to plan these three operations we were able to seal one: the Aba one. We were able to seal from Aba to Umuahia but we couldn’t seal the Owerri one and we were already in Aba, so he wanted us to now go up to, at least, Owerri.

    So sir if it were to be today, it would have already been okay, with Aba and Umuahia meaning AU?

    AU yes, so we said no you couldn’t do that, he said no, we have to. Then we had a young brigade commander who was going to be responsible for the operation. So I had been able to see him and I had told him that the operation was not on. So he took Edet?, I said this thing is not on but he was a much younger officer than I was. So when we now got to the other group, I didn’t say anything. All he himself could say was, ‘yes sir, yes sir’. So, the Owerri battle was settled. But we didn’t have enough troops. We could manage what we had and get to Owerri. But we couldn’t hold the town. Adekunle said don’t worry: by the time we get to Owerri, he would have got enough reinforcement from Lagos. But I insisted we should get reinforcement first before starting the assault. When my protest became too much, Adekunle said what was my concern – after all, Edet, not I, was the brigade commander! Edet, of course, could not say no, for he was a much junior officer. So I told Adekunle: “Sir, tomorrow by five o clock, I will personally be there and we will get into Owerri. Since you said we can hold it, it’s your responsibility, not mine. He said yes, why not? That was how we went into Owerri. We got there but as I feared, we could not hold it. I was even surprised that we lasted that long in the town. There was also the Umuahia tactics debate before the action was aborted. Because of my strong reservations about Adekunle’s preferred tactics, one of my classmates, Shande, came to tell me and Alabi that the GOC called him a coward. He felt bad.

    For a soldier that was …

    He was my classmate, we went to school together. But Shande got killed in the Owerri assault, a death that was probably avoidable. There were quite a number of tragic stories. They ought not to have happened. After putting all of these together, I decided this man had gone crazy. That was why Alabi and I left.

    How would you grade Obasanjo and Adekunle because you worked with both of them?

    Adekunle did a much difficult and much better job. Obasanjo simply took over Third Division after they had gone all the way from Calabar, all the way to the northern point of Obubra, all these areas in the present day Cross River, Akwa Ibom and Rivers states. The war, in all those places, were over. 3rd Marine were already in Igbo land. What Adekunle should have done was to change tactics a little bit, be less ambitious about what we were doing, and to know that we needed to commit more troops in a place where the people were not our supporters. In the riverine areas, we got a lot of support from people. They showed us the creeks, it was a very complicated place to operate in. That was why when Asari Dokubo decided that he was going to get nasty, I told people you won’t be able to stop them, if they have arms. They don’t have to be very smart, they live there. But you don’t live there. Your soldiers can’t live 24 hours on water in a canoe and eat there and sleep there and fight from there.

    Making comparisons: Isama called Obasanjo bossy and Adekunle listening?

    At the beginning, Adekunle had enough honesty. In every war, you change command, you change people but we didn’t have that luxury in the Nigerian Army. The Nigerian Army didn’t have the luxury of, say, moving three officers out and replacing them with fresh ones. That affected people like Adekunle. Also, I didn’t know who was playing politics with him because until I now read some of the papers now published, as letters he was writing to Lagos, people accusing him that he had ambition of becoming the head of state or anything. At that point, he did not want to listen to anyone, any more. His brusque rejection of our proposed operational order, which he dismissed as Tactics Lesson 101, was high-handed. We should have argued it. That was what he used to do. But now, he was changed, as he appeared to know everything. And it was bound to be disaster after disaster. That was why a new GOC had to take over.

    Losing Owerri and moving troops back gradually towards Elele was a bad time for the GOC. By that time he had disorganized his headquarters. He came back from Lagos one day and said he was accused that his whole division was Yoruba. He said so. So, he reshuffled his key men: me, Isama, Ayo Ariyo and now put relatively junior officers, who could not face these top men in charge of sectors, just to prove his division was not exclusive Yoruba territory! Whatever he was thinking, I had no idea. But the new operational officers could not give instructions or challenge the actions of these more senior officers in the front. That led to more reverses and confusion.

    General Gowon, what sort of commander-in-chief was he?

    I think he was too nice for a soldier.

    Too nice?

    Too nice, in the sense that he is a very polished person. I can say that because I grew up under his tutelage. So, I know him from his bedroom, to the office, to everywhere. He was too understanding sometimes, and it is very difficult to extract a yes or no answer from Gowon. That is his nature: “I mean, honestly, you boys…honestly, well…honestly.” It’s very difficult to get him to say yes or no! Very difficult!

    So how come he lasted that long as head of state if he was vacillating?

    For most of his time the army was busy. We got into the war, we fought almost three years out of his tenure. Thereafter, we resettled and there was this big problem. I think the army was too preoccupied with itself: you know we had lost many officers, too many. We had wounded soldiers all over the place, so nobody had time to address the issue of governance until about 74, four years after the war, when people started turning attention to governance, and agitation in the army started that they wanted back all the officers for military duties. All the military governors were senior to me – very good officers. We wanted all of them back in the Army. In any case, what were they doing there?

    Then the story would come: two governors were travelling to this event; then they went to Kontagora. They went to the Keffi Guest House, and they were told there were no drinks except champagne. And they said, okay, we would manage it! (general laughter). These people were just enjoying themselves and we in the army were just running around. So, we wanted them to come back and help. Why don’t they get civilians to be governors in place of these officers sorely needed in the military. That agitation culminated in the coup that removed Gowon.

    I don’t know if anybody had written about it, but about four months before the coup that ousted Gowon, there had been big commotions at Army Headquarters. Gen. David Ejoor, our army chief of staff, was told to go to Dodan Barracks and tell them off, insisting that officers holding political positions must return to the army. But Ejoor could not do it. So, we called a meeting of all senior officers in the commander-in-chief’s office, that’s what happened. We got all the senior officers, we went to Dodan barracks and we had a meeting with Gowon and we gave him an ultimatum to announce a definite exit date by the military? That was when Gowon started losing grip. There and then. Our chief of staff (Ejoor) couldn’t do it. This was how we started losing grip. Gowon was not a very forceful person. I think he leaves you as a senior officer to make your own decision. But you can’t do that, as commander-in-chief.

    I had this debate with Isama and he wouldn’t go that far and I said from his own account of the war, the GOCs were just doing what they wanted and there was no overarching strategy which would say this is where you have gone, stop and so on. For instance, Shuwa was just moving from village to village, he seems to have no plan and then there was the instance of Gowon (and you were there) asking Muritala not to cross the Asaba bridge but he still did and nothing happened?

    That’s why I said he seems to leave you finally to do what you like but you don’t do that as a commander, you take responsibility for what would have happened. Therefore, you have the last say. You can debate, you can discuss but the last thing you are going to do, is what you are going to do. I heard, the moment we got to Asaba, Murtala said we were crossing the bridge. I told him wait a minute, you know I have stomach ulcer. Before we leave Midwest and go to the other side there, I’m going to get to Lagos and see my doctor and collect enough medicine from him before coming. So, he said okay. I could go for five days.

    Now the argument that preceded that was that there was no way we were going to cross. And we made suggestions as to what we should try to plan and see whether it was possible but we thought it was possible to move out of Asaba, leave maybe half a brigade because we didn’t need more than that because the bridge had been broken anyway. The bridge was still intact as at that time but we had intelligence report that it had been mined. So we asked that we could go to Idah, it didn’t matter, we could do it leisurely, even if we had one ferry. We could do it over one month and get our troops across to the other side and then divide the sector into two. We take the right hand one, which would end up in Onitsha ; and Shuwa could keep going to Umuahia. My GOC said, are you really suggesting that I should go and share boundary with that renegade?

    Who is that ?

    Shuwa. They were classmates at Sandhurst; they were my seniors. I spent only one term with them because they were passing out when we got there. I said if you can’t share boundary with Shuwa, who else are you going to share boundary with? He said no don’t give me that, we are going to cross this bridge. I drove back to Lagos and I went straight to Dodan barracks. Gowon was so happy to see me and he said well-done boys. I said but there was trouble. He said what? I said my GOC wants to cross the Niger into Onitsha. I told Gowon we would never get there, since the bridge had been mined. Gowon said, don’t worry, we would stop him. I had spent like three days; then went to Abeokuta to spend one night there with Olu Bajowa, because he had a training depot. So, I went to see what was going on there, to talk about the kind of people they were sending to us. I told him I thought it would be better if we had the permission to extend the training for about one month, since people being sent to the front hardly knew the difference between the gun’s barrel and its butt. I said these people are just coming to die.

    After the night, I drove back to Asaba and I had with me Ike Nwachukwu. The reason was simple: I couldn’t leave him anywhere. He was operation officer but I couldn’t leave him. I didn’t trust that I would find him when I came back. They could probably kill him because he was Igbo. So, every time where I went, I said let’s go. I took him to Lagos, we came back. By the time we came back, the operation had been carried out and the disaster had happened. So, we came to a salvage operation. That same morning we arrived, they had landed at Onitsha and trouble had broken out and they had pushed them back. By the time we arrived in the afternoon, we just met stranglers, fleeing for life. That was the first operation.

    But he insisted we had to repeat the operation. I said well, there are two conditions: you know my brigade, we have served you so well. Virtually we fought 95 percent of the Midwest all the way from Okene to Benin, from Abudu to Asaba. We have three brigades; one had gone and come back. Talk to the other brigade, let him go and do it. I give you one condition if you are able to secure a proper base there, I promise you I will cross the sea with you and that day we will get to Nnewi. The day we cross, we will get to Nnewi before sun down that’s the only thing I can promise. He agreed.

    In the meantime, I added, I wanted to take my brigade back to Iluche. I wanted not just to rest but to do some training, to do some recapping for my officers, and I’d got enough trucks to take them, since you couldn’t train or do anything in Asaba, and I didn’t want my men sitting down idle in the trenches. He agreed. But I asked him about the equipment for the second crossing, so that I could use them in my battalion’s training, cross from Iluche to the other side, and see how adequate they were. But the equipment was so ragged there was no way we could do what we planned. I would get into trouble because the river had so much heavy current, so you needed some powerful boats, which we didn’t have.

    Then the next thing he said Daramola had agreed to do the second operation. I said okay; I had agreed to follow him if he could secure the bridge. That was the agreement. I got my tools ready to follow him just in case, you never know there might be some surprise success. But again, there was defeat, tragedy and confusion. Indeed, one of Daramola’s officers, Bassey Inyang, a signal officer who still had his riffle with him, came out of the canoe that brought him from the front to the bank at Asaba. Bassey, how was it? I asked. Sir, he replied, they were shooting at us! I laughed: you were expecting roses? Even then, he (Murtala) thought of doing the crossing the third time.

    The third time?

    Yes, the third time. But we debated and debated until he abandoned the idea.

    So I came back to Lagos and I said I wasn’t going to serve in Second Division anymore. I told them that despite my alert, they could not stop Murtala from his disastrous crossing. He did it two times and each time we lost officers, good officers. I told them I didn’t want to return to the division.

    Gowon didn’t stop him?

    He didn’t.